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ECHR: CASE OF SOLOMOU v. TURKEY

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Postby denizaksulu » Wed Jul 02, 2008 4:23 pm

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lovernomore wrote:In england they haev suicied by police. maybe Slomou did suicied by Turkish solders. nobody think like this but belive me in england peeople deliberatly provoke police and pretent they carri gun and get shot so they die. Solomou did this i think.


Sure, if you pretend that you have a gun in your pocket or pull out a joy gun and point to the police. What the hell did these murdered victims have that was so threatening, a lit cigarette.!!

STOP LOOKING FOR EXCUSES AND START CONDEMING THESE BRUTAL MURDERS, OR ELSE YOU ARE NO BETTER THAN THOSE WHO DID THE KILLINGS.


I dont say what the Tcs did is right. I dont say i am happy he die. i agree with you taht the shoting was wrong and the man who pull triger is gulty. what i say is maybe Solomou new that somebody shhoot himand he die, i read he was upset because sombody from hes familly die before one week or somthing.

Mr Kikapu, Tcs done wrong to you and you done wrong to Tc. Both now must try for beter futuer.



Hi lover. Kikapu IS a TC.
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Postby Kikapu » Wed Jul 02, 2008 4:30 pm

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Your are letting your emotions rule your head, look at it from this angle was soloman breaking the law by rioting entering the buffer zone and trying to rip down a flag? was the people who shot him guilty of defending their border?


He may have broken trespassing laws, but who's laws did he break, the UN's, the RoC's or a illegal state, the "trnc" which he obviously had no respect for. As far as he was concerned, he was in his own country, regardless of what the situation was in front of his eyes. So then he climbs the flag pole to tear down the flag of the occupying force. So what.? Is it in your penal code, that such incidences gives the right to anyone with the gun to be Judge, Jury and the Executioner, because that's exactly how they behaved. What about the one who got his brains beat all over the "Green Line" what was his crime exactly. Was his crime also in your penal code as well.

Then you ask "was the people who shot him guilty of defending their border". YES, they are guilty, because there were no borders then, and there are no borders now. It is called the "Green Line" which the UN is present to see problems does not occur. If what you believe was a justifiable killing just by crossing into the "Green Zone", then you would have had no problem had the GC soldiers executed the 3 TC police officers who wondered into the "Green Zone" when the Ledra street was opened recently and closed briefly subsequently. So what you think VP, should the three TC police officers been gunned down because they wondered towards the south.???

Then you have been using terms which is laughable even to the most uneducated and morons, when you use the term, "he was infiltrating" into the "trnc". :lol: :lol:

You right VP, he was going to ûse the flag pole as a "vault", to get over the wall. :lol: :lol:

You are nothing but a paid Propagandist who has no shame or principles as long as you are getting paid like a WHORE to try and make justifications of these murders and do as you are told.

I can't see any other reasons for your actions..............sorry.!!
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Postby Kikapu » Wed Jul 02, 2008 4:33 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
lovernomore wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
lovernomore wrote:In england they haev suicied by police. maybe Slomou did suicied by Turkish solders. nobody think like this but belive me in england peeople deliberatly provoke police and pretent they carri gun and get shot so they die. Solomou did this i think.


Sure, if you pretend that you have a gun in your pocket or pull out a joy gun and point to the police. What the hell did these murdered victims have that was so threatening, a lit cigarette.!!

STOP LOOKING FOR EXCUSES AND START CONDEMING THESE BRUTAL MURDERS, OR ELSE YOU ARE NO BETTER THAN THOSE WHO DID THE KILLINGS.


I dont say what the Tcs did is right. I dont say i am happy he die. i agree with you taht the shoting was wrong and the man who pull triger is gulty. what i say is maybe Solomou new that somebody shhoot himand he die, i read he was upset because sombody from hes familly die before one week or somthing.

Mr Kikapu, Tcs done wrong to you and you done wrong to Tc. Both now must try for beter futuer.



Hi lover. Kikapu IS a TC.


I know that will come as a shock to him Deniz.!! :lol:
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Postby lovernomore » Wed Jul 02, 2008 4:45 pm

Kikapu wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
lovernomore wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
lovernomore wrote:In england they haev suicied by police. maybe Slomou did suicied by Turkish solders. nobody think like this but belive me in england peeople deliberatly provoke police and pretent they carri gun and get shot so they die. Solomou did this i think.


Sure, if you pretend that you have a gun in your pocket or pull out a joy gun and point to the police. What the hell did these murdered victims have that was so threatening, a lit cigarette.!!

STOP LOOKING FOR EXCUSES AND START CONDEMING THESE BRUTAL MURDERS, OR ELSE YOU ARE NO BETTER THAN THOSE WHO DID THE KILLINGS.


I dont say what the Tcs did is right. I dont say i am happy he die. i agree with you taht the shoting was wrong and the man who pull triger is gulty. what i say is maybe Solomou new that somebody shhoot himand he die, i read he was upset because sombody from hes familly die before one week or somthing.

Mr Kikapu, Tcs done wrong to you and you done wrong to Tc. Both now must try for beter futuer.



Hi lover. Kikapu IS a TC.


I know that will come as a shock to him Deniz.!! :lol:


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Postby Magnus » Wed Jul 02, 2008 5:28 pm

lovernomore wrote:In england they haev suicied by police. maybe Slomou did suicied by Turkish solders. nobody think like this but belive me in england peeople deliberatly provoke police and pretent they carri gun and get shot so they die. Solomou did this i think.


I've read some utter nonsense on this site but this comment takes the prize. I'm not surprised you might try to blame the victim instead of own up to the fact that your thugs murdered the man over a flag, but this is pitiful.

If everybody started using the same twisted logic some of you people employ then every victim of every crime that ever happened was asking for it and the perpetrator is completely absolved.

Open your eyes and accept the facts: this man was murdered.

As for your 'suidice by police' theory I would love for you to show me some evidence that proves this prevalent trend in England because it doesn't sound like the England I live in.
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Postby Rebel.Without.A.Pause » Wed Jul 02, 2008 5:51 pm

Magnus, most of these Turks use England for examples here and there but dont know what is going on at all. For example, VP tried to say that the Indians are treated badly in the UK and thats why they rioted a few years ago. It wasnt the Indians at all, they have it quite good, It was the Bangladeshis mostly. I bet VP cant really tell the difference between the two.
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Postby lovernomore » Wed Jul 02, 2008 5:58 pm

Magnus wrote:
lovernomore wrote:In england they haev suicied by police. maybe Slomou did suicied by Turkish solders. nobody think like this but belive me in england peeople deliberatly provoke police and pretent they carri gun and get shot so they die. Solomou did this i think.


I've read some utter nonsense on this site but this comment takes the prize. I'm not surprised you might try to blame the victim instead of own up to the fact that your thugs murdered the man over a flag, but this is pitiful.

If everybody started using the same twisted logic some of you people employ then every victim of every crime that ever happened was asking for it and the perpetrator is completely absolved.

Open your eyes and accept the facts: this man was murdered.

As for your 'suidice by police' theory I would love for you to show me some evidence that proves this prevalent trend in England because it doesn't sound like the England I live in.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_by_cop

Wake up my frend. I dont say this is what Solomou did for sure, but it is just, jsut a small posibility.
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Postby lovernomore » Wed Jul 02, 2008 6:01 pm

one moore thing. Im not taking the blaem from the gulty person. He shot him and he is gulty.
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Postby lovernomore » Wed Jul 02, 2008 6:07 pm

Rebel.Without.A.Pause wrote:Magnus, most of these Turks use England for examples here and there but dont know what is going on at all. For example, VP tried to say that the Indians are treated badly in the UK and thats why they rioted a few years ago. It wasnt the Indians at all, they have it quite good, It was the Bangladeshis mostly. I bet VP cant really tell the difference between the two.


allright rebel. all tcs are stuppid acoring to you. you shuld know i'm not tc, my wife is tc. She dont know everything but she know what gos on.

Why yopu thing all other peeople exept greek are stupid?
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Postby Magnus » Wed Jul 02, 2008 6:09 pm

lovernomore wrote:
Magnus wrote:
lovernomore wrote:In england they haev suicied by police. maybe Slomou did suicied by Turkish solders. nobody think like this but belive me in england peeople deliberatly provoke police and pretent they carri gun and get shot so they die. Solomou did this i think.


I've read some utter nonsense on this site but this comment takes the prize. I'm not surprised you might try to blame the victim instead of own up to the fact that your thugs murdered the man over a flag, but this is pitiful.

If everybody started using the same twisted logic some of you people employ then every victim of every crime that ever happened was asking for it and the perpetrator is completely absolved.

Open your eyes and accept the facts: this man was murdered.

As for your 'suidice by police' theory I would love for you to show me some evidence that proves this prevalent trend in England because it doesn't sound like the England I live in.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_by_cop

Wake up my frend. I dont say this is what Solomou did for sure, but it is just, jsut a small posibility.


This article mentions six cases. Five of them from the USA and the other from New Zealand. Six examples does not constitute a regular occurrence and there is no reference to anything in the UK so no idea where 'it happens in England' came from.

Nobody wants you personally to accept blame, just stop trying to apportion blame to the victim and accept that those soldiers murdered him and the ECHR ruling decides it.
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