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ECHR: CASE OF SOLOMOU v. TURKEY

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Postby Brittania » Wed Jul 02, 2008 2:46 pm

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Postby Brittania » Wed Jul 02, 2008 2:47 pm

observer wrote:Tim Drayton wrote
I am British and was involved in the "Troops out of Ireland" movement in my student days. In my opinion, Bloody Sunday was a disgrace and there is no way that I can justify these killings as being judicial


Judicial, no. Justifiable, maybe. Understandable, I think so. Tragic, certainly.


Justifiable and Understandable. 2 adjectives i never thought i'd hear for 2 excutions of 2 unarmed men. One by a govt official and turkish troops and the other by tc police.

The biggest shame is on you.
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Postby observer » Wed Jul 02, 2008 2:49 pm

Brittania wrote:
observer wrote:Tim Drayton wrote
I am British and was involved in the "Troops out of Ireland" movement in my student days. In my opinion, Bloody Sunday was a disgrace and there is no way that I can justify these killings as being judicial


Judicial, no. Justifiable, maybe. Understandable, I think so. Tragic, certainly.


Justifiable and Understandable. 2 adjectives i never thought i'd hear for 2 excutions of 2 unarmed men. One by a govt official and turkish troops and the other by tc police.

The biggest shame is on you.


End of sensible discussion. End of reconciliation.
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Postby denizaksulu » Wed Jul 02, 2008 2:51 pm

Brittania wrote:
observer wrote:Tim Drayton wrote
I am British and was involved in the "Troops out of Ireland" movement in my student days. In my opinion, Bloody Sunday was a disgrace and there is no way that I can justify these killings as being judicial


Judicial, no. Justifiable, maybe. Understandable, I think so. Tragic, certainly.


Justifiable and Understandable. 2 adjectives i never thought i'd hear for 2 excutions of 2 unarmed men. One by a govt official and turkish troops and the other by tc police.

The biggest shame is on you.



OK, its a shameful act indeed, carried out in the heat of the moment.

Are the massacres at Murataga and Sandallaris shameful too?. Lets hear you also condemn those offenders as well.

Over to you Brittania?
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Postby Brittania » Wed Jul 02, 2008 2:53 pm

observer wrote:
Brittania wrote:
observer wrote:Tim Drayton wrote
I am British and was involved in the "Troops out of Ireland" movement in my student days. In my opinion, Bloody Sunday was a disgrace and there is no way that I can justify these killings as being judicial


Judicial, no. Justifiable, maybe. Understandable, I think so. Tragic, certainly.


Justifiable and Understandable. 2 adjectives i never thought i'd hear for 2 excutions of 2 unarmed men. One by a govt official and turkish troops and the other by tc police.

The biggest shame is on you.


End of sensible discussion. End of reconciliation.


Tell me observer in your sensibility and reconcilatory talents that you possess...did the tc govt official firing his hand gun at the protester for a few pot shots and then labelling him a "dog" prove to be understandable?

Did the 3 policemen beating an already unconscience man on the head for 1 minute after he stopped moving prove to be justifiable?

Admit brutality
Admit savagery
Admit you have no control over some of the animals you harbour over there, including the ones you vote to represent you. (minister of agriculture)

Justifiable and Understandable. I'd like to repeat that if it was a tc being killed like an animal.
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Postby Brittania » Wed Jul 02, 2008 2:55 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
Brittania wrote:
observer wrote:Tim Drayton wrote
I am British and was involved in the "Troops out of Ireland" movement in my student days. In my opinion, Bloody Sunday was a disgrace and there is no way that I can justify these killings as being judicial


Judicial, no. Justifiable, maybe. Understandable, I think so. Tragic, certainly.


Justifiable and Understandable. 2 adjectives i never thought i'd hear for 2 excutions of 2 unarmed men. One by a govt official and turkish troops and the other by tc police.

The biggest shame is on you.



OK, its a shameful act indeed, carried out in the heat of the moment.

Are the massacres at Murataga and Sandallaris shameful too?. Lets hear you also condemn those offenders as well.

Over to you Brittania?

Shameful and disgusting Deniz. I hope they rot in hell. Absolutely no justification whatsoever for these animals to still walk amongst us. A black mark on gc's.
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Postby denizaksulu » Wed Jul 02, 2008 2:57 pm

Brittania wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Brittania wrote:
observer wrote:Tim Drayton wrote
I am British and was involved in the "Troops out of Ireland" movement in my student days. In my opinion, Bloody Sunday was a disgrace and there is no way that I can justify these killings as being judicial


Judicial, no. Justifiable, maybe. Understandable, I think so. Tragic, certainly.


Justifiable and Understandable. 2 adjectives i never thought i'd hear for 2 excutions of 2 unarmed men. One by a govt official and turkish troops and the other by tc police.

The biggest shame is on you.



OK, its a shameful act indeed, carried out in the heat of the moment.

Are the massacres at Murataga and Sandallaris shameful too?. Lets hear you also condemn those offenders as well.

Over to you Brittania?

Shameful and disgusting Deniz. I hope they rot in hell. Absolutely no justification whatsoever for these animals to still walk amongst us. A black mark on gc's.



Thank you.
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Postby Tim Drayton » Wed Jul 02, 2008 2:57 pm

Brittania wrote:
observer wrote:
Brittania wrote:
observer wrote:Tim Drayton wrote
I am British and was involved in the "Troops out of Ireland" movement in my student days. In my opinion, Bloody Sunday was a disgrace and there is no way that I can justify these killings as being judicial


Judicial, no. Justifiable, maybe. Understandable, I think so. Tragic, certainly.


Justifiable and Understandable. 2 adjectives i never thought i'd hear for 2 excutions of 2 unarmed men. One by a govt official and turkish troops and the other by tc police.

The biggest shame is on you.


End of sensible discussion. End of reconciliation.


Tell me observer in your sensibility and reconcilatory talents that you possess...did the tc govt official firing his hand gun at the protester for a few pot shots and then labelling him a "dog" prove to be understandable?

Did the 3 policemen beating an already unconscience man on the head for 1 minute after he stopped moving prove to be justifiable?

Admit brutality
Admit savagery
Admit you have no control over some of the animals you harbour over there, including the ones you vote to represent you. (minister of agriculture)

Justifiable and Understandable. I'd like to repeat that if it was a tc being killed like an animal.


Be fair. A lot has changed in the north of Cyprus. There are no ex-TMT thugs in the government now.
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Postby Paphitis » Wed Jul 02, 2008 3:00 pm

Disproportional force was used against an unarmed individual who posed no threat to any person within the buffer zone. This deems Solomou's shooting as an act of cold blooded murder and can not be deemed as self defence.

In any other western nation, such an act would have resulted in a court martial against the offenders and also civil charges on discharge. Why has this not happened in this case? And why has the "minister of agriculture" not been charged? He is wanted by Interpol which is a reflection of the crime committed here.
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Postby observer » Wed Jul 02, 2008 3:08 pm

Paphitis wrote:Disproportional force was used against an unarmed individual who posed no threat to any person within the buffer zone. This deems Solomou's shooting as an act of cold blooded murder and can not be deemed as self defence.

In any other western nation, such an act would have resulted in a court martial against the offenders and also civil charges on discharge. Why has this not happened in this case? And why has the "minister of agriculture" not been charged? He is wanted by Interpol which is a reflection of the crime committed here.


Perhaps any other nation except RoC where the guilty at the massacres at Murataga and Sandallaris don't see to have faced prosecution.
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