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[pantheman]

TRNC sending help to Southern Ossetia .
İt is announced by TRNC red crescent organization .

team of 37 red crescent people are carrying 130 tents ,2500 blankets ,130 camping beds ,food and water .
team arrived to SARP boarder gate today .TRNC team will work under the Turkeys red crescent .

at 2004 Southern Ossetia and TRNC officials had made agreements for humanitarian
issues .Head of the TRNC team will be Tarkan Tombak .

What utter bulshit Halil. You are desperately trying for recognition you even go to the pisspot countries to sign agreements. My you are a sad lot.

The TRashCan is on the verge of bankruptcy, mama is refusing to feed the bad little baby and you can afford to send 37 nobodies just to make a point. Pathetic.

And why keep mentioning going under the Turkish red cresent, is that because NO one knows who you are Moron

[Mr. T]

South Ossetia is part of the soverign territory of Georgia. This is a fact.

The political leaders of Russia care not one bit about the people in S.Osettia and they have been planning and waiting for the opportunity to invade this independant state for many years. The foolish over the top actions of the Georgian leader which Russia must have been hoping to bring about must have made them think that all their birthdays have come at once.

Putin is happy to carry out bombing raids on the energy pipelines to the West so that Russia can control the energy coming out of this part of the world and their cynical attempts to carry out a land grab on the pretence of helping holders of Russian passports living in Georgian territory is easily seen through. This is a long used ploy of Russia e.g. their invasion of Finland was stated as being to protect Russians living in that country but the world knew that was not the truth. Everything we have seen of Putin during this crisis reinforces the fact that Medvedev is only a puppet of Putin who still is the real power and has a desire to make Russia a strong military power. What a shame when the alternative could be to become friends with the West and share in its prosperity and institutions.

It would be interesting to know whether Russian media is letting it be known that Russian planes have also bombed apartment blocks in Gori killing people living there and that Russian planes have been shot down by the Georgians.

[boomerang]

South Ossetia is part of the soverign territory of Georgia. This is a fact.

The political leaders of Russia care not one bit about the people in S.Osettia and they have been planning and waiting for the opportunity to invade this independant state for many years. The foolish over the top actions of the Georgian leader which Russia must have been hoping to bring about must have made them think that all their birthdays have come at once.

Putin is happy to carry out bombing raids on the energy pipelines to the West so that Russia can control the energy coming out of this part of the world and their cynical attempts to carry out a land grab on the pretence of helping holders of Russian passports living in Georgian territory is easily seen through. This is a long used ploy of Russia e.g. their invasion of Finland was stated as being to protect Russians living in that country but the world knew that was not the truth. Everything we have seen of Putin during this crisis reinforces the fact that Medvedev is only a puppet of Putin who still is the real power and has a desire to make Russia a strong military power. What a shame when the alternative could be to become friends with the West and share in its prosperity and institutions.

It would be interesting to know whether Russian media is letting it be known that Russian planes have also bombed apartment blocks in Gori killing people living there and that Russian planes have been shot down by the Georgians.

Is this my imagination or your comments reflect the sinister plans of "turkey=fascist state" regarding Cyprus...

At the back of my mind can't help thinking...Just as soon as price of crude oil backtracked, from US$147 to US$115 per barrel, and not enough time to see this at the pumps, here we go again the oil jumping up again...

[miltiades]

I thinik "turkey=fascist state" and the tcs are gonna side with Russia on this one Milti...After all the Russians went in to save/help their bros...
Thats whatthe Russians are saying

I think Russia went in as you say for more reasons than that .
Roots of the conflict

Why is the Caucasus so important?

Because it is the only route for Central Asian oil supplies that does not cross Russia. Throughout the 19th century Russia fought wars to control the region and Moscow considers the area a key part of its sphere of influence.

Why does South Ossetia want to break away?

Most of its people speak their own language and feel closer to the Russians than the Georgians. They say they were absorbed into Georgia after the fall of the old Soviet Union. The 70,000 South Ossetians want independence – just like Kosovo, the breakaway Serbian province.

Why are the Georgians so upset about South Ossetia?

Because they see it as a Russian outpost funded largely from Moscow, and where most people carry Russian passports.

Why has Georgia’s president chosen to raise the issue now?

Because he thought everyone was focused on the Olympics and the Russians would hesitate to respond with force.

Why has Russia been willing to go to war?

The Kremlin is angry about western, particularly American military support for Georgia, its desire to join Nato and US plans for a missile defence shield in Europe.

Will anyone else intervene?

Unlikely, western armies are busy and the prospect of taking on Russia is not enticing.

What happens next?

The Georgians will back down looking like the bad guys. Both sides will go back to hating each other. Result: Russia 1, Georgia 0.

[Raymanoff]

Mr.T, i am amazed how BBC & SKYNEWS washes your brains. I was zapping news channels all night last night, all western channels tell the same story.

"2000 lifes lost during this conflict... " - 1600 lives were lost during one night of artillery barrage on civilian targets in S.Osetia by Georgian Army...

"Russian forces invade Georgia" - Russian forces "invaded S.Osetia" to support UN Mandated mission which was attacked by Georgina in the first place.

There is not a single western TV channel in S.Osetia... all they show is an old woman crying for help near demolished building in Georgia. There will be a huge embarrassment to western media after this conflict is careful analyzed.

"Russia bombs Georgina Civilians" - Russia bombs Georgian military units which support the military offensive on S.Osetia. Russian military uses penetrating bombs with delayed detonation which penetratest building and destroys it from ground up. TV shows apartment fires etc...this is caused by other weapons or from the ammunition explosions from nearby military facilities caused by the bombings. There are no civilians targeted but noone said there would not be civilian casualties... its a war, cause by an ambitious west ass licking wanker.


There is a law that anyone who had USSR passport could apply for Russian Citizenship. South Osetians used that right, materially this country have nothing except wineyards so there are no particular interests in this area apart that 90% of the population are Russian Passport holders.

Russia has a UN mandate in the region. Georgians attempted to invade S.Osetia for the following reasons:

NATO territorial disputes had to be resolved until the next Georgina NATO entry hearing.
Mr. Bush will be out of action in few months, so Saakashvili tries to test his 5 year long sexual political relationship with USA and test his 3000% increase in military funding.

CASPIAN oil is produced by Azerbaijan & Turkmenistan which are not quite a Georgia-friendly nations. Russia have access to a vast amount of Caspian seabed, there are many options of rediverting pipeline and the cost of doing that is much lower than the cost of creating a war.

[olgaesplai]

miltiades, mostly you are right.
Mr.T - you are so sure about everything you said....why? Ossetia - is a part of Georgia...? this is the fact ?
Ossetia was part of Soviet Union as Ukraine, Georgia, and they declared their independence in 1990...
90% of the population are russian passports holder. during 3 days more then 30000 of ppl have left Ossetia and Russia help them.
thousands couldnt leave coz Georgians shot all roads, especcialy with medical transport.
i am watching the news (ok maybe is russian interpreation) but ppl crying, blood, children...
russian set up mobile hospitals, bringing food, water...
Do you think...is it still possible for Ossetia to get to Georgia (as its part)....do you think they are dreaming about that?

[Viewpoint]

TRNC sending help to Southern Ossetia .
İt is announced by TRNC red crescent organization .

team of 37 red crescent people are carrying 130 tents ,2500 blankets ,130 camping beds ,food and water .
team arrived to SARP boarder gate today .TRNC team will work under the Turkeys red crescent .

at 2004 Southern Ossetia and TRNC officials had made agreements for humanitarian
issues .Head of the TRNC team will be Tarkan Tombak .

What utter bulshit Halil. You are desperately trying for recognition you even go to the pisspot countries to sign agreements. My you are a sad lot.

The TRashCan is on the verge of bankruptcy, mama is refusing to feed the bad little baby and you can afford to send 37 nobodies just to make a point. Pathetic.

And why keep mentioning going under the Turkish red cresent, is that because NO one knows who you are Moron

Pure venom and hate, you are the face of the majority of GCs.

[Raymanoff]

Viewpoint, he is right.. you are not in a position to send anything. This only proves your desperate self oriented attempt to draw attention to your problem... stay out of it, dont be pathetic.

[Mr. T]

Mr.T, i am amazed how BBC & SKYNEWS washes your brains. I was zapping news channels all night last night, all western channels tell the same story.

"2000 lifes lost during this conflict... " - 1600 lives were lost during one night of artillery barrage on civilian targets in S.Osetia by Georgian Army...

"Russian forces invade Georgia" - Russian forces "invaded S.Osetia" to support UN Mandated mission which was attacked by Georgina in the first place.

There is not a single western TV channel in S.Osetia... all they show is an old woman crying for help near demolished building in Georgia. There will be a huge embarrassment to western media after this conflict is careful analyzed.

"Russia bombs Georgina Civilians" - Russia bombs Georgian military units which support the military offensive on S.Osetia. Russian military uses penetrating bombs with delayed detonation which penetratest building and destroys it from ground up. TV shows apartment fires etc...this is caused by other weapons or from the ammunition explosions from nearby military facilities caused by the bombings. There are no civilians targeted but noone said there would not be civilian casualties... its a war, cause by an ambitious west ass licking wanker.


There is a law that anyone who had USSR passport could apply for Russian Citizenship. South Osetians used that right, materially this country have nothing except wineyards so there are no particular interests in this area apart that 90% of the population are Russian Passport holders.

Russia has a UN mandate in the region. Georgians attempted to invade S.Osetia for the following reasons:

NATO territorial disputes had to be resolved until the next Georgina NATO entry hearing.
Mr. Bush will be out of action in few months, so Saakashvili tries to test his 5 year long sexual political relationship with USA and test his 3000% increase in military funding.

CASPIAN oil is produced by Azerbaijan & Turkmenistan which are not quite a Georgia-friendly nations. Russia have access to a vast amount of Caspian seabed, there are many options of rediverting pipeline and the cost of doing that is much lower than the cost of creating a war.

[Raymanoff]

Mr. T, yes...thank you, i wrote that...