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[denizaksulu]

Deniz and Halil your attempt to point out that Gcs are just as guilty as TCs when it comes to the destruction of our heritage falls on death ears, someone who can dismiss the photographic evidence you have provided as "they were built of mud so the fell down" is not a mentality you can reason with or make see the realities of the situation.

GCs are the masters of covering up their own shit and blaming everyone else for their problems, the day GCs stand up and admit their wrong doings is they day you will understand they have changed, but the blindness only indicates they are donkeys with a saddle on their backs thinking they are race horses.

Very true VP. Yet I feel that Piratis has all the evidence to our claims at hand, but is afraid of being labeled a 'traitor' by his 'friends' GR and Co. by any admission he would make. He is trappped by is own Petard. He has his own credibility to take care of. Thats why he is a coward.

[Viewpoint]

Deniz and Halil your attempt to point out that Gcs are just as guilty as TCs when it comes to the destruction of our heritage falls on death ears, someone who can dismiss the photographic evidence you have provided as "they were built of mud so the fell down" is not a mentality you can reason with or make see the realities of the situation.

GCs are the masters of covering up their own shit and blaming everyone else for their problems, the day GCs stand up and admit their wrong doings is they day you will understand they have changed, but the blindness only indicates they are donkeys with a saddle on their backs thinking they are race horses.

Very true VP. Yet I feel that Piratis has all the evidence to our claims at hand, but is afraid of being labeled a 'traitor' by his 'friends' GR and Co. by any admission he would make. He is trappped by is own Petard. He has his own credibility to take care of. Thats why he is a coward.

Only once have I read something from Piratis where he let down his guard and acknowledged some of the realities of the past and present, it made for a far more personal and constructive approach and encourage the same from me, but this was only once so he has it in him but unfortunately chooses to show his "gara gavur" side which reconfirms the saying of our older generation is that you can eat and drink with GCs but never trust them.

[Piratis]

What falls on deaf ears is the fact that you wanted partition since 50s (even before any conflict or any other excuse you currently use started) and therefore you wanted to abandon those places so you could steal twice as much in the north part of Cyprus, ethnically cleanse us, and create some "Turkish State" on our land.

Viewpoint has many times stated that for him the south part of Cyprus is a "foreign country", and he doesn't give a damn about what happens here.

So when you don't care for your own villages and monuments, claiming that they are now "foreign", how can you expect from us to put money for the maintenance of every mosque, especially when our priority was to house the 200.000 refugees you forced out of their homes and re-build our country which you have destroyed with your invasion?

The fact is that the Cypriot State did not intentionally destruct any TC mosque, and you could not provide any evidence for the contrary.

On the other hand, I have clearly shown how the Turkish regime has intentionally tried to destroy our historical heritage, by giving "licenses" to businessmen to turn our churches to Hotels and similar facilities, by changing the names of our villages, and by trying to falsify our whole history.

Furthermore I dispute that all photos the Halil bayrak propaganda man is posting are what he claims they are. It is obvious to me that many of them are not what he claims they are, and he has not provided any proof (e.g. before and after pictures, as I did with the Church turned to Hotel in the occupied areas).

Even the numbers that he gives are apparently intentionally falsified. For example:

Tekke-ancient Tombs
Destroyed:1
In bad condition:2
Neglected:1
Total:4

This would mean that there is no Tekke in good condition, when I know for a fact that Halal Sultan Tekke is in perfect condition and the state and the Greek Cypriots taxpayers have paid lots of money for its maintenance.

[denizaksulu]

Deniz and Halil your attempt to point out that Gcs are just as guilty as TCs when it comes to the destruction of our heritage falls on death ears, someone who can dismiss the photographic evidence you have provided as "they were built of mud so the fell down" is not a mentality you can reason with or make see the realities of the situation.

GCs are the masters of covering up their own shit and blaming everyone else for their problems, the day GCs stand up and admit their wrong doings is they day you will understand they have changed, but the blindness only indicates they are donkeys with a saddle on their backs thinking they are race horses.

Very true VP. Yet I feel that Piratis has all the evidence to our claims at hand, but is afraid of being labeled a 'traitor' by his 'friends' GR and Co. by any admission he would make. He is trappped by is own Petard. He has his own credibility to take care of. Thats why he is a coward.

Only once have I read something from Piratis where he let down his guard and acknowledged some of the realities of the past and present, it made for a far more personal and constructive approach and encourage the same from me, but this was only once so he has it in him but unfortunately chooses to show his "gara gavur" side which reconfirms the saying of our older generation is that you can eat and drink with GCs but never trust them.

[halil]

Pirates ,
Hala sultan mosque did not counted here .
you will get chance to see all of them here which one we are talking about.
As far as I know after this report published reconstruction of Arnavut Mosque(İn Limassol) and GC's cemetery in Vasilia village in North started .

The tekke and tombs are metioned here are like
Hasan Aga Tekke and baths at Lower Paphos.

Alehtoro Huzuri tomb .... etc...etc.....

[halil]

Limasol (Lemesos)
Domed Fountain was built by Süleyman Pasha who had been the mayor of the Limassol for some time during the Ottoman rule .This was an architectural rarity and it was built on top of four columns.Later ,this area was named Limassol Kubbeli Çeşme square.The fountain was totally destred by the GC's after 1974.

[Medman]

Halil
You pointed out that the TC's cemetry in Upper Lefkara has been vandalised. When was this photo taken? According to friends, the UN ran a project to restore the cemetry a few years ago. I will investiagte further.

[halil]

Halil
You pointed out that the TC's cemetry in Upper Lefkara has been vandalised. When was this photo taken? According to friends, the UN ran a project to restore the cemetry a few years ago. I will investiagte further.

Medman ,

If you follow my writings from the begining pictures are taken from 2005-march up to now .That picture was in 2005 . İf you have more information put it here .As i said before after this report published and handed over the UN restorations started both side of the Cyprus .

[Murataga]

The only thing that happened to some of those places is that they were abandoned by you because you wanted to steal our land in north Cyprus and go live there instead. Still, all the major Muslim monuments have been preserved in the Republic of Cyprus.

Do any of these read like people "abandoning something" in want of "stealing something" to you? At least try to act like you have some dignity for God`s sake...

U.N. Secretary General`s report S/5950 of September 1964

"180. UNIFCYP carried out a detailed survey of all damage to properties throughout the island during the disturbances, including the Tyllria fighting. It shows that in 109 villages, most of them Turkish Cypriot or mixed villages, 527 houses have been destroyed while 2000 others have suffered damage from looting. ... In many Turkish villages, crowded by the arrival of displaced persons, there is an acute shortage of medical facilities."

U.N. Secretary General`s report S/6426 of June 1965

"104. The Turkish Cypriot population has continued to be subject to hardships of various kinds, some of them onerous. These include restrictions on the freedom of movement of civilians, economic restrictions, the unavailability of some essential public services, and the sufferings of refugees."

U.N. Secretary General`s report S/8286 of December 1967

"126. When disturbances broke out in December 1963 and continued in the first part of 1964, thousands of Turkish Cypriots fled from their homes, taking with them only what they could drive or carry, and sought refuge in what they considered to be safer Turkish Cypriot villages and areas.
The refusal of the Greek Cypriot authorities to allow the Turkish Cypriot refugees to return to their homes in conditions of safety effectively frustrated persistent Turkish efforts to rehabilitate them. They also obstructed attempts to improve their living conditions"

[Oracle]

So why did the Ottomans/Turks prefer to convert Churches to Mosques instead of building their own?

Are they lazy, incompetent scavengers

Maybe they prefer to find ready-made civilisations to absorb and when the going gets tough and they have to pull their weight, they cause trouble as an excuse to abandon responsibilities and withdraw from effort ....

Certainly their history on Cyprus would suggest such unattractive traits