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[petethegreek]

probably been a few muslims killed too i suspect.

They're called suicide bombers.

[cannedmoose]

moosey even bigger question....

do you reckon this will strengthen the pro or anti iraq war lobby?

Good question... to be honest in the past couple of months since the election, the anti-Iraq lobby hasn't really been visible here. It barely features on the tv news, so public opinion isn't really mobilised either for or against it.

I think in the immediate future, it will engender a feeling of solidarity and I don't think it will have a big political impact. The only reference to Iraq so far has come from George Galloway, an Independent MP who campaigns against Blair on the Iraq issue. Beyond this, the entire political class is mobilised in support. Therefore in the short term, to bring up the Iraq issue will be tantamount to dishonouring those who were killed and injured today... it's too soon. In the longer term, whether this will lead to greater questioning of British foreign policy is anyone's guess. I don't think it will to be honest. I think British people tend to be quite pragmatic when it comes to viewing foreign policy. Most of us didn't support the war, yet we realise that it's not feasible to just pull troops out now.

[cannedmoose]

probably been a few muslims killed too i suspect.

They're called suicide bombers.

Come on Pete, that's out of order... you know that there are loads of law-abiding and perfectly decent Muslims living in London and it's likely that some of them would have been injured or killed in this attack. I'm as against the muslim extremists as you are, but you can't label all muslims as suicide bombers, that's just not on.

[Bananiot]

I would like too to add my voice of sympathy to all victims of this treacherous attack and express my solidarity to british people at this difficult moment. The action of the terrorists will only serve to strenghen the will to combat terrorism effectively. Blair was right in saying that this was an attack on civilisation.

[cannedmoose]

Cannedmoose, I wont take back what I said. I am not claiming, of course that the prime mininister Tony Blair and Gordon Brown yesterday decided to let this attack happen. Of course not! What I am telling is that some very small but very strong fractions in the state might ignore this. Simple as that!

Sorry, I don't buy such conspiratorial nonsense.

Well, things are not that simple unfortunately...

Let me ask you this detailer. So... the Al-Qaeda linked bombings in Bali, Madrid, Casablanca, Istanbul and London (assuming London is such an attack) are all examples of national security forces or individuals in the 'deep state' with a grudge against Muslims... in other words, there is a global conspiracy against islam, including states that are muslim nations...

[demetriou_74]

i am blaming the muslim extremists.

do you think it is......

to coincide with the olypics
G8
coincidence
iraq war

[cannedmoose]

I would like too to add my voice of sympathy to all victims of this treacherous attack and express my solidarity to british people at this difficult moment. The action of the terrorists will only serve to strenghen the will to combat terrorism effectively. Blair was right in saying that this was an attack on civilisation.

Well said Bananiot

[petethegreek]

Moose - Look mate , I agree with u. I was just trying to show how much rubbish has been written in this post. True Muslims are not terrorist. The nutters who placed those bombs today hide behind this religion. They are cowards who have killed and maimed innocent people.

The British public are not fickle. They know that true Muslims will condem this attack.

[cannedmoose]

i am blaming the muslim extremists.

do you think it is......

to coincide with the olypics
G8
coincidence
iraq war

G8, without any doubt. They couldn't give two hoots about the Olympics, plus to plan this would have taken months and no-one thought London was going to win.

The G8 conference opened today, all the major leaders of western civilisation are present and the attack disrupted business with Blair having to fly south to be in London and the leaders taking time out from discussions to back Blair's public announcements. As one of the experts has just said, the terrorists wanted to get the message to G8 leaders that they can carry out co-ordinated attacks anywhere at any time they please. Despite being an open city, London is not an easy target, it's one of the more secure cities in the world.

However, what this has shown is that London continued to function, despite the bombing. Life did go on, albeit disrupted, the stock market fell but later rallied, and people tonight are struggling home stoicly. So the terrorists have already failed.

An interesting point that an expert commentator just made on BBC is that the G8, plus the leaders of South Africa, China and India who were invited for today, stood shoulder-to-shoulder with Blair today, even Chirac who opposed the war in Iraq vehemently. So this attack has galvanised support for the war on terror, of which Iraq is now a component given the infiltration of a large number of militants into the country since the invasion.

[cannedmoose]

Moose - Look mate , I agree with u. I was just trying to show how much rubbish has been written in this post. True Muslims are not terrorist. The nutters who placed those bombs today hide behind this religion. They are cowards who have killed and maimed innocent people.

The British public are not fickle. They know that true Muslims will condem this attack.

Ok Pete, I got the wrong end of the stick. The British Council of Muslims and British Muslims Association have already condemned this. I'm sure there are a minority out there who are celebrating tonight, but hopefully these people will be rooted out and excluded from our society.