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[YFred]

Only rational actions will see the liberation of Cyprus. This means through negotiations and both sides accepting compromises.

yeah, nice one Banana, we can compromise, lets just GIVE them 1/3rd of the Island, and their compromise would be to let us continue breathing.

Hade gamisou.

Re PushdoGhamizmenoBastardo, which bit of "compromise by the both sides" did you not understand.

[repulsewarrior]

...new thinking, leadership, statesmanship: that is what the Problem demands; Principals and a demonstration of something learned, something which can be emulated by other global partners because it holds all of Mankind's esteem.

obviously what "Greeks" want and what "Turks" want do not hold the answer because this process has failed over so many years. "compromise implies that these two adversaries hold to their raw values, giving something up. this does not end the enmity, nor will it guide the Human race to a higher level of living.

the Pope's words are valuable and valid, but will likely be ignored because we prefer to place some exclusive values above the need for all of us to look at the planetary systems as Universal, and that in it we play a role.

rather than the power of reason, and the instinct of compassion, we choose to resist change with a hostile behaviour that is misdirected since it does not fight real enemies such as Ignorance, Hunger, or Disease.

[Piratis]

Only rational actions will see the liberation of Cyprus. This means through negotiations and both sides accepting compromises.

Turkey will not make any compromises with the current balance of power. They will accept nothing less than a form of partition. Believing that we can achieve liberation with negotiations under the current balance of power is unreasonable.

Liberation can only come under a different balance of power in the region. For the balance of power to change in our favor Turkey should be pushed away from EU and become more Islamic.

[Bananiot]

Our best bet for survival (because this what is all about) is for Turkey to become a full member of the EU and totally embrace European principles and values. Until this happens we should be negotiating for a compromise solution which by the way is the call of all political parties in the RoC, and work to gain the trust (never to be abused again) of our fellow compatriots the TC's, with whom we will build a bicommunal, bizonal federation. The bash patriots who still dream of Greek domination can simply go to hell because they have done all the damage they could, already.

P.S. When I say "we" I mean the Cypriot people as a whole.

[YFred]

Only rational actions will see the liberation of Cyprus. This means through negotiations and both sides accepting compromises.

Turkey will not make any compromises with the current balance of power. They will accept nothing less than a form of partition. Believing that we can achieve liberation with negotiations under the current balance of power is unreasonable.

Liberation can only come under a different balance of power in the region. For the balance of power to change in our favor Turkey should be pushed away from EU and become more Islamic.

Piratis you excelled this time. If Turkey will only accept partition, then why are they negotiating within the UN parameters, unless of course the UN is with Turkey on this one and is also doing the same.

[Piratis]

Our best bet for survival (because this what is all about) is for Turkey to become a full member of the EU and totally embrace European principles and values. Until this happens we should be negotiating for a compromise solution which by the way is the call of all political parties in the RoC, and work to gain the trust (never to be abused again) of our fellow compatriots the TC's, with whom we will build a bicommunal, bizonal federation. The bash patriots who still dream of Greek domination can simply go to hell because they have done all the damage they could, already.

P.S. When I say "we" I mean the Cypriot people as a whole.

Our best bet for survival is to give to Turkey the control of the whole Cyprus through her well known puppets on the island while at the same time allowing 10s of thousands of Turkish settlers to roam freely in the whole Cyprus? Are you really THAT stupid?

It is the TCs who need to gain our trust, by stop collaborating with foreign Imperialists in order to have gains on our expense, something they have been doing since the day they set their foot on our island. I am not going to stop fighting for the freedom of my island just so the TCs will trust me that I am a good slave who will never revolt to seek my freedom and rights. No, I am not the "trusted slave", and I do not wish to be. The TCs should either respect our right to rule democratically our whole island and be equal citizens in an island without any kind of border, or else they are my enemy and they can not be trusted.

Obviously you are not talking about the liberation of Cyprus. What you want only legalizes the partition of Cyprus and nothing more. This is the WORST thing we could do. The balance of power will change sooner or later, and our job until then is to maintain our rights over the whole island. Your efforts to officially make Turkish 1/3rd of Cyprus serves only the Turkish interests. You want to officially make Turkish 1/3rd of Cyprus so when the time will come to liberate the north part of our island we will be seen as invaders, and not as liberators. We will not make you this favor. We will maintain our right to liberate the part of Cyprus currently under Turkish occupation and we will not gift to the Turks our lands.