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[Kikapu]

am sorry how can you have 80% of the population and 12% of the population sharing a parliament of 50%/ 50% and that be equal? Please explain?

Does being shorter than you make me any less equal?

very poor twisted and spun example. You are just playing with words. You would do well as a scammer, full of shit and twist anything.

On the individual level you are equal but as a community how the F can you be when you are 1 and we are 5.

In other words a GC committee made up of 5 people would only need 1 person as a similar TC committee???? Thats what you are saying FFS.

Hello 2 equal states do you now understand the difference?

It's not 2 equal states. It is "political equality" of the 2 states.!

Poiltical equality of the 2 states is exactly what we want.

And you will get political equality in the form of equal senate seats assigned to each of the states in BBF. Not to each community, but to each state, in a Democratic way. The less number of GCs living in the north state will give more chance for the TCs to hold all the senate seats in the north, and to insure that that will happen, the north state will need to reduce its size so that you do not have too many GC refugees with their land in the north state.

I think you are finally beginning to see the light, long last.!

[Viewpoint]

am sorry how can you have 80% of the population and 12% of the population sharing a parliament of 50%/ 50% and that be equal? Please explain?

Does being shorter than you make me any less equal?

very poor twisted and spun example. You are just playing with words. You would do well as a scammer, full of shit and twist anything.

On the individual level you are equal but as a community how the F can you be when you are 1 and we are 5.

In other words a GC committee made up of 5 people would only need 1 person as a similar TC committee???? Thats what you are saying FFS.

Hello 2 equal states do you now understand the difference?

It's not 2 equal states. It is "political equality" of the 2 states.!

Poiltical equality of the 2 states is exactly what we want.

And you will get political equality in the form of equal senate seats assigned to each of the states in BBF. Not to each community, but to each state, in a Democratic way. The less number of GCs living in the north state will give more chance for the TCs to hold all the senate seats in the north, and to insure that that will happen, the north state will need to reduce its size so that you do not have too many GC refugees with their land in the north state.

I think you are finally beginning to see the light, long last.!

The risk is equal and this is where you are trying to sell us out.

[Kikapu]

am sorry how can you have 80% of the population and 12% of the population sharing a parliament of 50%/ 50% and that be equal? Please explain?

Does being shorter than you make me any less equal?

very poor twisted and spun example. You are just playing with words. You would do well as a scammer, full of shit and twist anything.

On the individual level you are equal but as a community how the F can you be when you are 1 and we are 5.

In other words a GC committee made up of 5 people would only need 1 person as a similar TC committee???? Thats what you are saying FFS.

Hello 2 equal states do you now understand the difference?

It's not 2 equal states. It is "political equality" of the 2 states.!

Poiltical equality of the 2 states is exactly what we want.

And you will get political equality in the form of equal senate seats assigned to each of the states in BBF. Not to each community, but to each state, in a Democratic way. The less number of GCs living in the north state will give more chance for the TCs to hold all the senate seats in the north, and to insure that that will happen, the north state will need to reduce its size so that you do not have too many GC refugees with their land in the north state.

I think you are finally beginning to see the light, long last.!

The risk is equal and this is where you are trying to sell us out.

No, the risk is you trying to keep too much GC land, and if you do, it will come back to bite you in the ass. You want to safeguards those senate seats to remain in the TCs hands Democratically, you will need to reduce the north's territory. It is that simple. Once you have done that, if you wanted an added insurance that the north remains predominantly a majority TC, then ask for the "Grandfathered-in Population" derogation that I have suggested to you already, for the next 100 years if you want, because you are not going to need it!

[Viewpoint]

We can ask for the same with 29%

[Kikapu]

We can ask for the same with 29%

At 29%, they will come after your senate seats since there will be at least 90,000-100,000 GCs in the north. If you are going to keep their land when they want their land to be part of the south state, then they might just not want to give you the same derogation. You need to compromise. Besides, I thought you didn't want to hear too much Greek spoken in the north.

[Viewpoint]

We can ask for the same with 29%

At 29%, they will come after your senate seats since there will be at least 90,000-100,000 GCs in the north. If you are going to keep their land when they want their land to be part of the south state, then they might just not want to give you the same derogation. You need to compromise. Besides, I thought you didn't want to hear too much Greek spoken in the north.

Willing to take the risk with Grandfathered in Population, ho and the Greek language will be fine in 29% as i do not think that many GCs will want to live amongst TCs or hear Turkish as the dominant language. Plus more the TCs will stay put instead of being made into refugees for the 3rd time.

[kurupetos]

We can ask for the same with 29%

Don't waste your time. Partition, including BBF, will never be accepted.

[Kikapu]

We can ask for the same with 29%

At 29%, they will come after your senate seats since there will be at least 90,000-100,000 GCs in the north. If you are going to keep their land when they want their land to be part of the south state, then they might just not want to give you the same derogation. You need to compromise. Besides, I thought you didn't want to hear too much Greek spoken in the north.

Willing to take the risk with Grandfathered in Population, ho and the Greek language will be fine in 29% as i do not think that many GCs will want to live amongst TCs or hear Turkish as the dominant language. Plus more the TCs will stay put instead of being made into refugees for the 3rd time.

Not all the TCs needs not move. They can be part of the south state if you get the "Grandfathered-in Population" at 20%, which means not all the TCs needs to be in the north state as long as you have a high majority TCs in the north.

So you are not afraid of being swamped by the GCs after all, because you believe they do not want to come to the north, as I've been telling you all this time. But you still need to compromise, since they want to be part of the south state in order to give you the "Grandfathered-in Population" derogation. They want to make sure, in case you try to make another attempt to declare the north as an Independent state from the union.! Besides, once the majority of the settlers are sent back, at 20%, you will have more territory than you îll be able to cope with and remain within your state budget, hopefully.

[Viewpoint]

29% plus Grandfathered in Population will do the trick as more of the TC population will automatically remain in the north and the minimum will be made refugees yet again.

If we agree a BBF with political equality and all is going great why would we want to declare independence?

[boulio]

This 29% assumption in a futuere northern state is it not that also at the same time the refugees that dont return to the southern state will return to the northern state?