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[antifon]

Cypriots are a simple people. Simpletons some might say. That is how they survived over millennia, in the process preserving their Hellenic identity, minus a few who opted to side with the enemy.

As such they believe:

- RoC is invulnerable
- the illegal manufactured line can never be awarded a seal of approval
- gCypriot towns of Morphou, Lapithos, keryneia etc. will again be such
- talk of a possible BBF was the result of an illegal WAR waged against Cyprus

Cypriots will never agree on a BBF. NEVER. They are too smart for it, though I recognize the difficulties for our politicians.

tCypriots, the circa 10%-14% minority has limited options. Its time is running out. Turkey's time is also running out, where she will have to discuss soon her Cyprus logic with her own Kurds.

It is about time we tell our tCypriot compatriots, with love and honesty, that if they wish to command things to try their luck in Ankara. In Cyprus, Cypriots command and Cypriots want their Cypriot towns back, they want a unitary state where a minority cannot be allowed to whine so much.

More on my blog:
http://antifon.blogspot.com

[B25]

Go Antifon , Go.

You are on fire man, you echo what many GCs really want, but too spineless to say it. We are behind you.

[denizaksulu]

Go Antifon , Go.

You are on fire man, you echo what many GCs really want, but too spineless to say it. We are behind you.

Go B25 GO.

Your place is definitely behind Antifon (right spelling?). Whilst there tell him that one cannot claim that Kerynia or Morphou is or was GC. Cypriot yes - since both peoples lived there at the Republic, GC NO.

[antifon]

Go Antifon , Go.

You are on fire man, you echo what many GCs really want, but too spineless to say it. We are behind you.

Go B25 GO.

Your place is definitely behind Antifon (right spelling?). Whilst there tell him that one cannot claim that Kerynia or Morphou is or was GC. Cypriot yes - since both peoples lived there at the Republic, GC NO.

Predominantly denizaksulu!
As in almost every part of Cyprus, certainly in all its major towns!

Almost 90% of Cypriots today, perhaps more since I do not know the percentage of tCypriots who claim they are Christian converts as opposed to Turks who came in the 17th century, can trace historically their roots way back in time. An uninterrupted recorded beyond doubt might I add.

This majority of Cypriots have DEFINED Cyprus over time and there ain't anything anyone can say to change that. Except the very powerful, outdated TSK/Ergenekon/Turkish-deep-state propaganda machine, which I know you hate as much as I do.

[denizaksulu]

Go Antifon , Go.

You are on fire man, you echo what many GCs really want, but too spineless to say it. We are behind you.

Go B25 GO.

Your place is definitely behind Antifon (right spelling?). Whilst there tell him that one cannot claim that Kerynia or Morphou is or was GC. Cypriot yes - since both peoples lived there at the Republic, GC NO.

Predominantly denizaksulu!
As in almost every part of Cyprus, certainly in all its major towns!

Almost 90% of Cypriots today, perhaps more since I do not know the percentage of tCypriots who claim they are Christian converts as opposed to Turks who came in the 17th century, can trace historically their roots way back in time. An uninterrupted recorded beyond doubt might I add.

This majority of Cypriots have DEFINED Cyprus over time and there ain't anything anyone can say to change that. Except the very powerful, outdated TSK/Ergenekon/Turkish-deep-state propaganda machine, which I know you hate as much as I do.

That is a better (pre-dominantly) qualification. No need for further explanation. We know who are the converts and those that imagine themselves to be 100% TURKS.

[humanist]

antifon .... we have several times told the TC compatriots who claim to be more Turkish than Cypriot to try their luck in Ankara, however they want both because they are gullible and brainwashed by Ankara that they deserverve their own rule which they have yet to see and if they come under Ankara they will losse any right or opportunity of having a single parliamentatrian with a Cypriot ancenstry.

[Viewpoint]

antifon .... we have several times told the TC compatriots who claim to be more Turkish than Cypriot to try their luck in Ankara, however they want both because they are gullible and brainwashed by Ankara that they deserverve their own rule which they have yet to see and if they come under Ankara they will losse any right or opportunity of having a single parliamentatrian with a Cypriot ancenstry.

Rather that than capitulate to GCs.

[antifon]

antifon .... we have several times told the TC compatriots who claim to be more Turkish than Cypriot to try their luck in Ankara, however they want both because they are gullible and brainwashed by Ankara that they deserverve their own rule which they have yet to see and if they come under Ankara they will losse any right or opportunity of having a single parliamentatrian with a Cypriot ancenstry.

Rather that than capitulate to GCs.

[ZoC]

antifon .... we have several times told the TC compatriots who claim to be more Turkish than Cypriot to try their luck in Ankara, however they want both because they are gullible and brainwashed by Ankara that they deserverve their own rule which they have yet to see and if they come under Ankara they will losse any right or opportunity of having a single parliamentatrian with a Cypriot ancenstry.

Rather that than capitulate to GCs.

that stable (converted church?) can't be in the northern latrine 'cos the three wise men wouldn't have been allowed in to celebrate xmas...

[BirKibrisli]

Kikapu...thank you for taking the time to reply to my post...I am really not in the mood to go over all the issues you've raised, as we have discussed them here ad infinitum...My point is that Cyprus issue is too complex to be reduced to any one simple point...Even if that point is as noble as your democracy and human rights arguments...

People and communities have collective consciouness which goes beyond any logical or legal or even fair considerations...The worst approach one can take to a victim of trauma is disbelief and suspicion...The second worst approach is to blame them for bringing the victimisation onto themselves...The third worst thing is to accuse them of gaining something at the expense of those they consider their oppressors...And the cardinal mistake is to refuse to show and empathy and compassion....Our GC cousins of the fanatial/nationalist perusation are doing all this and more...Knowing well the effect it is having on the TCs and on the negotiations to find a solution...

AS the time drags on the status quo,which is effectively Partition,becomes more and more entrenched...That is what I mean by these fanatics b eing the real Partitionists...If you know for sure that a certain actions will result in stalemate,and if the stalemate will result in Partition,and you refuse to change course,you are a partitionist...In effect and in reality...

If you do not see my logic than we are talking about chalk and cheese...You are not helping the situation,because you are insisting on buttering their bread,giving them reason to think they might be right in their choice of actions....Cyprob will never be solved as long as our GC cousins refuse to accept the lions share of the blame for what has happened...And start showing some undeerstanding,empathy and compassion for the TC plight...If you want to help find a solution you should start telling them that...