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Re: Greek Tragedy

Postby Sotos » Fri Jan 26, 2018 12:53 am

it is hard for me to get my head wrapped around the idea that Cypriots didn't exist before the Hellenic rise


Who said they didn't? If by "Cypriots" you mean people inhabiting what we today call Cyprus, then of course they existed before. The same goes with every other Greek island and the Greek mainland. Or you thought that those places were uninhabited until the "Hellenic rise"? The following quote explains it nicely:

The people of Cyprus represent two main ethnic groups, Greek and Turkish. The Greek Cypriots, who constitute nearly four-fifths of the population, descended from a mixture of aboriginal inhabitants and immigrants from the Peloponnese who colonized Cyprus starting about 1200 BC and assimilated subsequent settlers up to the 16th century. Roughly one-fifth of the population are Turkish Cypriots, descendants of the soldiers of the Ottoman army that conquered the island in 1571 and of immigrants from Anatolia brought in by the sultan’s government.

https://www.britannica.com/topic/history-of-Cyprus
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Re: Greek Tragedy

Postby repulsewarrior » Sun Feb 04, 2018 10:13 pm

Under instructions from the European Commission, the European Central Bank and the International Monetary Fund, the Greek government pushed through the most anti-union legislation in Europe on Monday 15 January.

The move was demanded, along with other draconian measures, as a condition of the latest tranche of what is called Greece’s bailout but which in reality is bailing out the European financial institutions which recklessly encouraged Greek borrowing.

The key concession required from the Syriza government was that industrial action would now require a yes vote from more than half of the total number of union members in a workplace, regardless of the actual turnout. This is even worse than the provisions in the Trade Union Act which came into law in the UK in March 2016.

Astonishingly – or perhaps not – there has been not one word about this from the TUC, which continues its scaremongering about the effect of Brexit on workers’ rights. While it prattles on, the European Union is turning the screw on the most fundamental of all workers’ rights, the right to strike, and using Greece as a test bed for policies it would like to see across all member states.

Without the right to take effective strike action, workers have no protection save the courts, and capitalist courts consistently favor the employers.

The European Court of Justice ruled (in the Laval case, 18 December 2007), that employers have the right to bring workers from a low-wage EU state to a higher-wage EU state on the wages payable in the cheaper country, regardless of any collective bargaining agreements in the higher-wage state. It has also ruled (in the Viking case, 11 December 2007) that effective industrial action to stop outsourcing to cheaper countries is illegal.

In the Alamo­–Herron case (18 July 2013), involving Unison members transferred out of local authority employment, it ruled that whatever their contracts said, benefits collectively negotiated for local authority workers could be ignored by their new employers. “This case is an appalling attack on collective bargaining and is at least as serious as Viking and Laval,” wrote Britain’s leading employment barrister, John Hendy.

Hendy went on to say, “The EU has become a disaster for the collective rights of workers and their unions.”

As we have consistently said, strong trade union organization backed up by effective industrial action if need be is the only way to secure and defend advances in the workplace. The EU murmurs about “rights” while consistently attacking the basis of workplace organization.

Not one line of the Trade Union Act introduced by the Cameron government, or the even worse White Paper that preceded it, was contrary to EU law. The sooner Britain leaves the EU, the better it will be for trade union members (though some so-called leaders will resent being kicked off the Brussels gravy train). At least then we will just have our own employers to deal with.



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Re: Greek Tragedy

Postby supporttheunderdog » Fri Feb 08, 2019 4:10 pm

EU SHOCK: Merkel threatened Greece with a 'temporary Grexit' - 'It was PURE FICTION'
ANGELA Merkel threatened Greece with a "temporary exit" from the eurozone in 2015 to safeguard the EU economy from collapsing because of the indebted Greek financial situation - a move the European Council President Donald Tusk branded as "pure fiction".

German President Wolfgang Schauble revealed in the BBC documentary Inside Europe he proposed Greece to leave the eurozone for five years to tackle the financial crisis still hitting the Brussels bloc in 2015. The then German Finance Minister claimed all his European counterparts agreed "unanimously" it was better to lose Greece than to keep trying to help the Mediterranean country recover financially.

He said: “Certainly among the finance ministers of the Eurogroup we came to a conclusion that this can’t continue.

“That’s why we were virtually unanimous that it would be better if Greece made the decision to suspend its membership for a while.”

The eurozone leaders called an emergency summit to discuss the German proposition.

But President of the European Council Donald Tusk claimed everyone was aware "temporary" would really mean forever.




https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1084159/EU-news-Greece-Angela-Merkel-Grexit-Donald-Tusk-eurozone-crisis

That is seemingly how close it was getting....
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Re: Greek Tragedy

Postby Paphitis » Fri Feb 08, 2019 4:18 pm

No one cares now.

Golden dawn is on the way up and will eventually take Government. This is what Merkel and the EU have created.

Get Ready Merkel and EU for a big shock like never before. These patriots are not about to take shit from that bitch or from the EU! :roll:

The chooks are coming home to roost!
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Re: Greek Tragedy

Postby kurupetos » Sat Feb 09, 2019 12:30 am

Paphitis wrote:No one cares now.

Golden dawn is on the way up and will eventually take Government. This is what Merkel and the EU have created.

Get Ready Merkel and EU for a big shock like never before. These patriots are not about to take shit from that bitch or from the EU! :roll:

The chooks are coming home to roost!

Well said, koala... :D
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Re: Greek Tragedy

Postby Paphitis » Sat Feb 09, 2019 1:53 am

kurupetos wrote:
Paphitis wrote:No one cares now.

Golden dawn is on the way up and will eventually take Government. This is what Merkel and the EU have created.

Get Ready Merkel and EU for a big shock like never before. These patriots are not about to take shit from that bitch or from the EU! :roll:

The chooks are coming home to roost!

Well said, koala... :D


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We need to make a new list.
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Re: Greek Tragedy

Postby supporttheunderdog » Sat Feb 09, 2019 8:19 pm

the Golden shower do not seem to be on the up in the recent opinion polls..,if anything going down...on each other, no doubt.
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Re: Greek Tragedy

Postby Get Real! » Sat Feb 09, 2019 8:24 pm

Those Golden Shower people are in the wrong country…

<-- Greece is that way!
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Re: Greek Tragedy

Postby kurupetos » Sat Feb 09, 2019 10:04 pm

supporttheunderdog wrote:the Golden shower do not seem to be on the up in the recent opinion polls..,if anything going down...on each other, no doubt.

Can Brexiteers vote in the Euro-elections, dog? :mrgreen:
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Re: Greek Tragedy

Postby supporttheunderdog » Sat Feb 09, 2019 10:32 pm

I am no Brexshitter and yes I understand I can vote...

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