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[Cap]

Yeah Banners, all nice and dandy in your little wonderland, but your fascist government will never agree to any of those terms.

[GreekIslandGirl]

There’s enough oil/gas there to lure Turkey out of Cyprus,

Clearly you don't know Turkey. Why should they settle for milk when they want the cow?

(no cheap jokes, unless you're an ass)

[GreekIslandGirl]

Isn't this why the Turks came to Cyprus?

Turkey came to Cyprus because Greece decided to pounce on Cyprus first!

You're suffering from amnesia. Your signature might give you a reminder of who 'pounced', and then pounced again, and again ...

[MR-from-NG]

Why Turkey is the wise choice to handle Cypriot oil/gas into Europe.

This is an all encompassing plan to resolve both the Cyprus problem and the transfer of Cypriot oil & gas into Europe. Below you’ll find a draft generalized copy of each party’s prerequisites for this scheme to work:


Turkey’s commitments:

1. Establish the necessary infrastructure for the oil/gas to travel from a southern port in Turkey underground into Europe.

2. Remove all Turkish military forces from Cyprus and transfer full authority to the RoC in accordance with UN resolutions.

3. Resettle all post 1974 Turkish settlers and any other willing citizens in Turkey in accordance with HR international conventions.

4. Forsake all claims to Cyprus and abide by international laws with respect to land and sea belonging to the RoC.


Advantages for Turkey:

1. Major EU accession hurdle (The Cyprus problem) eliminated and a new push for the opening and evaluation of all blocked accession chapters.

2. Free oil/gas for Turkey’s domestic needs for the next 50 years.

3. Commission and/or royalty from the transport of oil/gas into Europe.


Cyprus’ commitments:

1. Establish the necessary infrastructure for the oil/gas to travel from a northern port of Cyprus to a southern port in Turkey.

2. Dedicate her self to assisting Turkey’s EU accession and partnership with oil/gas.

3. Remove all Greek military elements, institutions, and ties with Greece from the island.

4. Forsake any enosis aspirations and serve and promote the unique Cypriot culture.

5. Greece must recognize the independence and sovereignty of Cyprus, the unique character of the Cypriot culture, and forsake any further political and cultural interferences on Cyprus.


Advantages for Cyprus:

1. Cyprus’ enslaved territory is liberated and Turkish settlers relocated to Turkey where they belong.

2. The infrastructure for the transfer of oil/gas into Europe comes at a significantly reduced cost due to the shorter travel path and far shorter underwater pipe laying.


Needless to say that you’re welcome and encouraged to post your constructive feedback on all this.


Regards, GR.

Excellent, excellent, excellent. Here I'am braking my promise, again. I just couldn't stay away after this exciting post from my good old friend Get Real, my friend, you are a bloody genius. If Turkey was ever presented with such a deal and a signature was applied on the dotted line we could see a real benefit for all concerned, the benefits would be beyond our wildest imaginations.

How sad that most of your compatriots are already damning your plan purely because of their hatred for Turks and anything Turkish. They ask "what about when the oil runs out", "can you trust the Turks", "blah, blah, blah". All very predicable, tunnel visioned to say the least.

What GR is suggesting is very realistic and very workable. Well done my friend, you have my full support and I pray a deal like this could one day materialise.

[boulio]

and what about the t/c in this plan of get real?

[MR-from-NG]

and what about the t/c in this plan of get real?

As we all know, Turkey sneezes the TRNC catches a cold. As there are benefits for Turkey the benefits of the TC's would be a natural occurrence.

[MR-from-NG]

There’s enough oil/gas there to lure Turkey out of Cyprus,

Clearly you don't know Turkey. Why should they settle for milk when they want the cow?

(no cheap jokes, unless you're an ass)

Do you honestly think Turkey would, or could attempt having an all out invasion of the whole island? The situation Cyprus finds itself in is a continuation of something that happened almost 40 years ago.

But if you really, really think its possible then can I kindly ask you allow us to then have real concerns that there could be a repeat of 63 and this time we could really and easily be ethnically cleansed?

[Mikiko]

I found this plan also very sensible If Turkey accept it. But we have nothing to loose by recommending If not we choose the other way. But on our way to secure the hellenic ideals we will loose the whole of the country and our own indepedence.

[Kikapu]

How sad that most of your compatriots are already damning your plan purely because of their hatred for Turks and anything Turkish. They ask "what about when the oil runs out", "can you trust the Turks", "blah, blah, blah". All very predicable, tunnel visioned to say the least.

I asked that question, so what's the answer? I presume you know the answer, so do tell...please!

Secondly, how can Turkey ever be sure that the RoC will keep it's agreement and not cancel it once Turkey and all the settlers are out of Cyprus. Once Turkey leaves, there's no coming back.....ever. That will be a good thing for most Cypriots, but will that be OK with you?

Oh and btw, for some weird reason, "you" were in my thoughts today for a brief moment and then here you are. I wonder what that means?

[Paphitis]

Actually, GR is on the right path. This is exactly the underlying factor that freed East Timor.

This is a great opportunity for Cyprus to use its resources as leverage in the EU, and US.

And if it is possible to establish a new positive relationship with Turkey, and cutting all ties with Greece then it could only be for the good of Cyprus. One only needs to compare Greece and Turkey to understand who the sick man of Europe truly is.