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Re: Whats up with the Charlies?

Postby boomerang » Thu Jan 26, 2012 4:23 pm

GreekIslandGirl wrote:
boomerang wrote:
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Sotos wrote:What are all these anti-Greek posts by some of our Charlies recently? Did somebody tease them again? :mrgreen:


They're used to messing with sheep too much and they have adopted their habits. Their shepherd called them in for help to do business deals with Turkey.

yeah smart and witty coming from a half cypriot...

but maybe you can tell me since you are not a sheep shagger as to why greece will not release the cyprus file?...but then again you have become a bendover shagger and you don't want to lose the priveledge... :lol:

keep up with the moronic replies GG...you are doing really well...high five... :mrgreen:


I am 100% Greek Cypriot as are the majority of the RoC. You are not a Cypriot, full stop. :D

Why are you even interested in Cyprus?


are you lacking comprehension skills or are you born dumb...ok eni me kipreos ime poushto kalamaras...now answer the question...why greece will not release the cyprus files to the public...lets see your intelligence in action... :mrgreen:
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Re: Whats up with the Charlies?

Postby Hermes » Thu Jan 26, 2012 4:30 pm

Paphitis wrote:the Cypriot community in Australia is dieing a slow agonising death. once the first and second generations die out, there will no longer be any Cypriots left. No one cares about the youth or will listen to them so they are not interested. :(

It's inevitable. You can't live in two places at once. It's the problem of all diaspora communities living abroad. The more successful you are at integrating the more you lose touch with your homeland. It doesn't give anyone from abroad the right to impose their judgements on the identity of Cyprus or Cypriots. In the end it's the Cypriots in Cyprus who have the only right to determine their identity and fate. It's insulting and patronising to assume otherwise.
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Re: Whats up with the Charlies?

Postby boomerang » Thu Jan 26, 2012 4:34 pm

:lol: ...somebody just came back with a new lube job...why won't greece release the cyprus file?...bloody hell you put a new meaning to self defeatism
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Re: Whats up with the Charlies?

Postby Paphitis » Thu Jan 26, 2012 4:37 pm

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Paphitis wrote:the Cypriot community in Australia is dieing a slow agonising death. once the first and second generations die out, there will no longer be any Cypriots left. No one cares about the youth or will listen to them so they are not interested. :(

It's inevitable. You can't live in two places at once. It's the problem of all diaspora communities living abroad. The more successful you are at integrating the more you lose touch with your homeland. It doesn't give anyone from abroad the right to impose their judgements on the identity of Cyprus or Cypriots. In the end it's the Cypriots in Cyprus who have the only right to determine their identity and fate. It's insulting and patronising to assume otherwise.


No hermes it is not inevitable at all!

What you are doing by saying such a thing does us no favours at all. The youth will not get involved because they can't not because they don't want to. Yes, they integrate, but they can still be cypriots but the "A List" turns them away because they want to keep their status and not let anyone else steal their thunder.

Mind you, when you adopt another country by moving there you need to integrate in order to fit in. If you don't then you are better off going back to Cyprus because life abroad will be unbearable. But that does not mean they are not Cypriot by living abroad and integrating.

And we are lucky to be in countries which allow us to integrate meaning that they accept us as part of them or their nation. That is something you guys find difficult to comprehend because as things stand right now, you are not capable of such nobility as Greeks!

We are turning our young ones away and forceing them into the loving embrace of Australia, Britain or the US from which there is no going back.
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Re: Whats up with the Charlies?

Postby boomerang » Thu Jan 26, 2012 4:42 pm

the reason we are disappearing we are heading down the road with the idiots in cyprus...losing our identity to the greeks...with lies and deceptions...

why won't greece open the cyprus files?...because if they did then they will lose us...this way they got us...by the nuts...think about it...
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Re: Whats up with the Charlies?

Postby Sotos » Thu Jan 26, 2012 9:55 pm

Boom what happened to you? Are you OK? You started at least 3 threads with the same topic within the same day. Then I read about you getting tired and all that. And something about your old generation... All evidence point to Alzheimer's :o Please see your doctor right now!!
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Re: Whats up with the Charlies?

Postby Hermes » Thu Jan 26, 2012 10:32 pm

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No hermes it is not inevitable at all!

What you are doing by saying such a thing does us no favours at all. The youth will not get involved because they can't not because they don't want to. Yes, they integrate, but they can still be cypriots but the "A List" turns them away because they want to keep their status and not let anyone else steal their thunder.

I meant that tension and dilution of the culture is inevitable, not dying out. But the problem becomes more acute with successive generations whose links to the homeland become weaker. That is why festivals, churches, language schools, community centres, associations, families and grassroots organisations have been important in the past. Also, the older generation cannot hang around for ever. They have to let go eventually.

From my knowledge of the UK where I lived for a while, I can tell you that there used to be quite a good sense of Cypriot identity even amongst the young UK-born. I don't know where it came from. Their families, relatives and the church probably. I don't think they thought of it as a big deal either. Many people in the UK have backgrounds which aren't British. I don't know how this will play out in future though...
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Re: Whats up with the Charlies?

Postby Paphitis » Thu Jan 26, 2012 11:22 pm

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No hermes it is not inevitable at all!

What you are doing by saying such a thing does us no favours at all. The youth will not get involved because they can't not because they don't want to. Yes, they integrate, but they can still be cypriots but the "A List" turns them away because they want to keep their status and not let anyone else steal their thunder.

I meant that tension and dilution of the culture is inevitable, not dying out. But the problem becomes more acute with successive generations whose links to the homeland become weaker. That is why festivals, churches, language schools, community centres, associations, families and grassroots organisations have been important in the past. Also, the older generation cannot hang around for ever. They have to let go eventually.

From my knowledge of the UK where I lived for a while, I can tell you that there used to be quite a good sense of Cypriot identity even amongst the young UK-born. I don't know where it came from. Their families, relatives and the church probably. I don't think they thought of it as a big deal either. Many people in the UK have backgrounds which aren't British. I don't know how this will play out in future though...


Hermes,

the associations, Churches and Clubs, Schools are part of the problem. They do nothing to maintain Cypriotness. They help destroy it. Kids will only maintain their Cypriotness from their parents. In my case, mine will be Cypriots because they will get to know Cyprus from a young age, and going to Cyprus will be like a homecomming each year.

Let me tell you about someone I know. A Cypriot, an intelligent person and a true patriot who lives in Australia. Very politically active (even nearly preselected for a seat within the Liberal Party) and a successful medical practitioner and businessman. A family man with 3 young kids. A refugee from Ammochostos. His brother was an EOKA fighter in the 50s who was killed by the British.

Because of his Liberal Party allegiance in Australia, the Labor supporters (Cypriots?) labelled him a terrorist. They would say that this man's family in Cyprus killed British Soldiers and civilians. Now let me tell you what happens in a country like Australia when people call authorities and tell those authorities that this person had terrorist links. His emails, phones were monitored. His mail would always arrive late and when it did arrive it was tampered with (opened).

One fine evening as this gentleman was in his bed, his house was surrounded by Federal Police and operatives from ASIC which is local sister of ASIO and is responsible for surveillance against Australian Citizens and others living in Australia. They smashed through his front door, armed, and ransacked his house. They searched everything and took away his computers and laptops for analysis. It was like a tornado had hit his home and family.

And who bought this upon him? Other Cypriots and Greeks. Why? Because he dared to be different.

So we hear things like this Hermes. And people stay away, can you blame them?

About 30-50% of Greeks and Cypriots vote or support the Liberal Party. Why would they attend any schools, clubs or associations?

Does this story sound far fetched to you? Well, it is true!
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Re: Whats up with the Charlies?

Postby Paphitis » Thu Jan 26, 2012 11:39 pm

There are many stories such as this, some just as bad!

That is why I refer to our "community" as the Sick Community of Australia. A community with a neanderthal establishment of thugs at the helm that couldn't give a damn about Cyprus or Greece.

That is why they are destroying their community, which has some very nice people and many patriots within.

And I am not referring to any group, association or any individuals, but am speaking generally.
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Re: Whats up with the Charlies?

Postby joe » Fri Jan 27, 2012 12:32 am

Sotos wrote:What are all these anti-Greek posts by some of our Charlies recently? Did somebody tease them again? :mrgreen:



I do not think the foreigners who post here are a true representative of the Cypriot diaspora because i know quite a few. No these people are ottoman remnants who have a silly agenda and they think if they keep repeating their ideas on this particular forum that it will some how come true. They're clueless beyond belief to a point where you cant help but laugh at their stupidity.
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