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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Kikapu » Tue Feb 16, 2016 1:25 am

Paphitis wrote:
miltiades wrote:"
(CNN)—Turkey's defense minister said his country has no intention of sending ground troops into Syria amid international concern over Ankara's shelling of armed Kurdish groups in the war-torn country.

Defense Minister Ismet Yilmaz made the comments Sunday in Turkey's semiofficial Anadolu news agency"

I wonder if the Russians raised the ...white flag, unless of course General Paphitis intervened :lol:


That has changed again, as Turkey has just agreed to participate in a Coalition led Ground Operation.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/na ... story.html

The troops are coming. America will lead the operations.


Paphitis, you have posted old news from Saturday and nowhere in that news says anything about USA sending troops or leading any coalition ground force in Syria! :?

The news Milti posted about Turkey not sending ground troops to Syria is more recent than the news you have posted from last Saturday.
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Kikapu » Tue Feb 16, 2016 1:29 am

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Lordo wrote:terggy does not want to go into syria but if she does she aint never coming out.


Turkey will do what it's told.

Turkey is part of the Coalition and will leave when it is agreed with the Russians to do so.



Turkey has been told by the US and EU to stop shelling the YPG for the last 3 days.

Has Turkey stopped shelling? So much for Turkey doing what it's told.

So, who will Turkey fight in Syria again if they went in? Surely not ISIS, right?
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Kikapu » Tue Feb 16, 2016 1:38 am

Paphitis wrote:As far as Pootin is concerned, Assad is expendable as long as they keep their Strategic assets and Syria as their client State. As far as the USA and Coalition are concerned, Syria is expendable as long as Assad goes.



I don't think Russia is going to rely on the "goodwill" of the USA to let them stay in Syria if Russia were to let Assad go. Any new leader replacing Assad can demand that Russia leave Syria. No no, Putin will stay with the devil (Assad) he knows than the devil he does not know.
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Paphitis » Tue Feb 16, 2016 2:23 am

Kikapu wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Lordo wrote:terggy does not want to go into syria but if she does she aint never coming out.


Turkey will do what it's told.

Turkey is part of the Coalition and will leave when it is agreed with the Russians to do so.



Turkey has been told by the US and EU to stop shelling the YPG for the last 3 days.

Has Turkey stopped shelling? So much for Turkey doing what it's told.

So, who will Turkey fight in Syria again if they went in? Surely not ISIS, right?


We will see what happens. Turkey is only having a dummy spit because of the backhanders it has been getting from the Coalition over the Kurds. They think they can hold us to ransom but the Kurds are protected and instrumental for us.

All I know is that Saudi, Jordanian and Emirate Troops have arrived in Turkey for "exercises".

These are the only facts I take into consideration, not the statements of a stupid politician on heat who feels the whole world is against him because no one classifies the Kurdish Rebels as "terrorists".
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Paphitis » Tue Feb 16, 2016 2:24 am

Kikapu wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Lordo wrote:terggy does not want to go into syria but if she does she aint never coming out.


Turkey will do what it's told.

Turkey is part of the Coalition and will leave when it is agreed with the Russians to do so.



Turkey has been told by the US and EU to stop shelling the YPG for the last 3 days.

Has Turkey stopped shelling? So much for Turkey doing what it's told.

So, who will Turkey fight in Syria again if they went in? Surely not ISIS, right?


Turkey was told by the Coalition first and foremost.

Yes they have stopped shelling and they feel very hard done by.
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Paphitis » Tue Feb 16, 2016 2:28 am

Kikapu wrote:
Paphitis wrote:As far as Pootin is concerned, Assad is expendable as long as they keep their Strategic assets and Syria as their client State. As far as the USA and Coalition are concerned, Syria is expendable as long as Assad goes.



I don't think Russia is going to rely on the "goodwill" of the USA to let them stay in Syria if Russia were to let Assad go. Any new leader replacing Assad can demand that Russia leave Syria. No no, Putin will stay with the devil (Assad) he knows than the devil he does not know.


There is no goodwill involved.

It's all about interests. Russia has interests and the Americans are not going to mess with that. We are MORE than willing to accept de-facto status of the Russian Strategic Assets because we have NOTHING to lose by them being there and Russia sees they have everything to gain.

What is non-negotiable for us is transition, and that is because Assad is a butcher who is targeting civilians, hospitals, and starving besieged towns.

And in the end that is what is going to happen. Russia will get what it wants and we will get Assad and destroy DAESH.

Confrontation is very unlikely even with our troops on the ground. I will remind you that we have always had limited Special Forces on the Ground in Syria since mid last year at least, probably earlier. We probably have troops in Syria right now, and Pootin will be giving those a very wide berth because he knows what is good for him.

Yes, the Americans actually inform the Russians the location of American and Australian Troops in Syria whenever they deploy and they agreed to do this at a very high level - Kerry to Lavrov or Obama to Pootin. They actually communicate behind the scenes which is why Assad is going to get stitched sooner or later.
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Robin Hood » Tue Feb 16, 2016 8:17 am

Instead of just rhetoric, opinion and regurgitated propaganda take a leaf out of the books of ANALYSTS who are both significantly better informed than hacks of the MSM and the Syrian Observatory of Human Rights.

A Dramatic Escalation Appears Imminent - Week Eighteen of the Russian Intervention in Syria - The Saker

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article44215.htm


The "Race To Raqqa" - A Syrian Campaign Plan
- Moon Of Alabama
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http://www.informationclearinghouse.inf ... e44221.htm[/url]
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby miltiades » Tue Feb 16, 2016 8:51 am

I have always believed that America and Russia are in agreement over the war in Syria. Both have as their ultimate goal the destruction of Isis and since America took a step back from its demands on the removal of Assad, Russia has been given a free hand to bolster the Syrian army and recapture areas from the rebels.

America will not send ground troops into Syria and regardless what General Plonker is saying, Turkey will neither.

The two superpowers do not want a confrontation which could lead to an escalation and perhaps a third world war, both know what is at stake and that any such confrontation will not leave one a winner but both losers.

As for Turkey going it alone with the Saudis and others and sending troops into Syria, all participants have said that troops will only be employed if led by the USA, Britain and the coalition armed with a UN mandate.

Aleppo is about to fall into Syrian army hands and Raqqa , the Isis ...capital, shortly afterwards.
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Paphitis » Tue Feb 16, 2016 9:09 am

miltiades wrote:I have always believed that America and Russia are in agreement over the war in Syria. Both have as their ultimate goal the destruction of Isis and since America took a step back from its demands on the removal of Assad, Russia has been given a free hand to bolster the Syrian army and recapture areas from the rebels.

America will not send ground troops into Syria and regardless what General Plonker is saying, Turkey will neither.

The two superpowers do not want a confrontation which could lead to an escalation and perhaps a third world war, both know what is at stake and that any such confrontation will not leave one a winner but both losers.

As for Turkey going it alone with the Saudis and others and sending troops into Syria, all participants have said that troops will only be employed if led by the USA, Britain and the coalition armed with a UN mandate.

Aleppo is about to fall into Syrian army hands and Raqqa , the Isis ...capital, shortly afterwards.


Silly old fart.

The Coalition can send troops into Syria whenever it likes and there will be no confrontation. They have been sending troops into Syria and even into Aleppo for a long time. Even the CIA are in Aleppo.

Dream on about Aleppo falling. You have no chance of that place falling any time soon. They can hold out for many months.

Also, it is just the Coalition fighting DAESH. Pootin has done bugger all against DAESH, as less that 2% of its strikes have targeted DAESH. Pootin has been targeting legitimate opposition, hospitals, schools, and civilian supporters of the opposition.
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Paphitis » Tue Feb 16, 2016 9:14 am

Robin Hood wrote:Instead of just rhetoric, opinion and regurgitated propaganda take a leaf out of the books of ANALYSTS who are both significantly better informed than hacks of the MSM and the Syrian Observatory of Human Rights.

A Dramatic Escalation Appears Imminent - Week Eighteen of the Russian Intervention in Syria - The Saker

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article44215.htm


The "Race To Raqqa" - A Syrian Campaign Plan
- Moon Of Alabama
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http://www.informationclearinghouse.inf ... e44221.htm[/url]


Instead of just propaganda, give me something I can take seriously.

You will see for yourself over the next few weeks as Aleppo holds out, and then you got nowhere to go but play right into our hands and agreeing to transition.

Good luck because you are going to need it.

The more you bomb hospitals and civilians the strong our resolve becomes.
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