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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Get Real! » Fri Oct 14, 2016 6:07 am

"In recent weeks, the battle for Aleppo has exposed the true heart of contemporary global politics with vivid clarity. The US Air Force’s duplicitous Sept. 17 attack on Syrian army positions near Deir ez-Zor, the hysterical outcry against Russia that erupted from the Pentagon, the US State Department’s undisguised threats against the Russian contingent in Syria, the Western media’s candid reports about arms shipments to al-Nusra militants, and the phantasmagoric drama in the UN Security Council on Oct. 8 all point to just one thing: there are no international coalitions against ISIL- there is only the Russian army and its allies who are taking a stand against the international terrorism used as a tool by the US and NATO."


http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-1 ... away-syria
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Robin Hood » Fri Oct 14, 2016 9:32 am

Get Real! wrote:
"In recent weeks, the battle for Aleppo has exposed the true heart of contemporary global politics with vivid clarity. The US Air Force’s duplicitous Sept. 17 attack on Syrian army positions near Deir ez-Zor, the hysterical outcry against Russia that erupted from the Pentagon, the US State Department’s undisguised threats against the Russian contingent in Syria, the Western media’s candid reports about arms shipments to al-Nusra militants, and the phantasmagoric drama in the UN Security Council on Oct. 8 all point to just one thing: there are no international coalitions against ISIL- there is only the Russian army and its allies who are taking a stand against the international terrorism used as a tool by the US and NATO."


http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-1 ... away-syria


He presents a compelling vision.

I have always been positive beyond doubt that the banking and financial system is at the root of almost all the ill’s the Planet is suffering. If you understand the basic concepts of money creation it is all too obvious. From climate change to war .... the common denominator is always money!

I have also staunchly believed that this sort of operation HAS to have a ‘management’. Call it what you will .....NWO, Illuminate, The Seeing Eye, Freemasonry .... ... whatever, there has to be an overall objective. That objective can only be achieved by an agenda and that agenda has to be a planned and organised operation. There is not a single ‘organisation’ on the face of the earth that does not have a driving force that is in command, from the one-man-band to multinational corporations.

I have been ridiculed for years in having this view, but if you look at world events over the last few decades, there can be no other explanation. This guy came to much the same conclusion, albeit his knowledge way outstrips mine on the subject.

What he says makes sense! :wink:
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Robin Hood » Fri Oct 14, 2016 10:13 am

Paphitis wrote:
Schnauzer wrote:Naturally I am concerned and sympathetic with the sufferings of those innocents (be they whosoever) that are in the predicament they are forced into in Aleppo, where would you find ANY decent human being that would NOT share such sentiments ?.

The 'Gulf' which exists twixt you and I (a wide one) is where we place responsibility for all the conflicts in and around the ME, not exclusively 'Syria' and certainly not attributed to 'Russia'.

The constant references to 'War Crimes' are not helpful, it is difficult to determine which of the two major forces (or many) have committed more BUT, in MY estimation, I would suggest that the greater number of the 'Sum Total' of them ALL (in recent years) must have been committed by the forces of the 'West' (and I keep reference to 'Iraq' as a starting point) not those of either 'Russia' or 'Syria'.

There is NOW much evidence to support the contention that 'America' is the 'Beast' that made the first offensive move and I am in agreement with THAT conclusion.

The 'Iraq' fiasco cannot (and must not) be swept under the carpet, we live with the outcome and millions suffer on account of it. :wink:


there are many so called ;'human beings" who don't give a stuff about the people of aleppo.

You for one .... you just pay lip service but support the real war criminals!

This war is just a means to an end, and everything is justified. well not from the Coalition's point of view. This has gone beyond anything anyone could have imagined.

Correct! The 'means' planned by the US ..... and every thing is justified as the right of the 'exceptional' and 'indispensable' war criminals of the US. All the evidence is irrefutable. The 'means' has been driven by the US hegemony and hubris ..... war for regime change ........ the End in Syria will be dictated by Syria with the support of Russia, and all done within the requirements of International Law.

But brace yourselves, because it looks like the Coalition is seeking support for direct action against Assad and Hezbollah. At this stage, they are talking about Air Strikes against the Regime Forces around Aleppo, but Damascus has also been mentioned.

So we are very near to a war with Syria and Russia. now what?

YOU will suffer badly!



I doubt it! Things are not going YOUR way at the moment, many of YOUR terrorist seem to have more sense than YOUR coalition!

Over 600 Militants Handing Over Heavy Weaponry to Syrian Army in Damascus Countryside

https://southfront.org/over-600-militants-handing-over-heavy-weaponry-to-syrian-army-in-damascus-countryside/


Negotiations to surrender east Aleppo under way

https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/negotiations-surrender-east-aleppo-way/


Your bluster and boasting is mirrored only by your US masters. The result of any of your stupid observations would result in a face-to-face with Russia!!!! WWIII. In spite of all your boasts ..... the US mainland would not come out of such a confrontation unscathed ...... neither would Europe ...... very bad thinking. It will start as a local skirmish .... which the US and the coalition will lose. The US will then start to threaten on a far greater scale! Big, big, big mistake! :roll: :x

You had better get ready to KYAGB ! :x
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Robin Hood » Mon Oct 17, 2016 6:51 pm

Just for you Paphitis; a bit of recent history (Post WWII – mainly) about Syria by a Western academic - Gary Leupp is Professor of History at Tufts University, and holds a secondary appointment in the Department of Religion.

I can’t think of anyone who would benefit more than you from a few facts about Syria ......... by a Western Historian. :roll:

An Urgently Necessary Briefing on Syria

“It is a secular, constitutional republic recognized diplomatically by the United Nations and has diplomatic and usually cordial relations with Russia, Iran, China, India, Japan, Brazil, South Africa, the Philippines, Argentina, Tanzania, Cuba, Egypt, Iraq, Algeria, Oman, etc.........”

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article45688.htm
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Robin Hood » Tue Oct 18, 2016 7:23 am

Your silence says a lot! :roll:

RT interview a US Senator about event’s in Aleppo. Paphitis, you should read this .... although of course you won’t. This man is way at odds with the rubbish you expect sensible people to believe, although never providing evidence to support your opinion. He has credibility ........ you have none! :lol: :lol:

Terrorists & their paymasters hold Aleppo civilians as human hostages

“The US and its allies could order their terrorist proxies in Aleppo to allow civilians to leave, but instead use them as hostages to escalate anti-Russia rhetoric in a bid to prevent the fall of the rebel stronghold, Virginia Senator Richard Black told RT.”

https://www.rt.com/op-edge/362980-aleppo-hostages-terrorists-paymasters/
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Get Real! » Tue Oct 18, 2016 7:45 am

The Real Humanitarian Crisis Is Not Aleppo

Why do we hear only of the “humanitarian crisis in Aleppo” and not of the humanitarian crisis everywhere else in Syria where the evil that rules in Washington has unleashed its ISIL mercenaries to slaughter the Syrian people? Why do we not hear about the humanitarian crisis in Yemen where the US and its Saudi Arabian vassal are slaughtering Yemeni women and children? Why don’t we hear about the humanitarian crisis in Libya where Washington destroyed a country leaving chaos in its place? Why don’t we hear about the humanitarian crisis in Iraq, ongoing now for 13 years, or the humanitarian crisis in Afghanistan now 15 years old?

The answer is that the crisis in Aleppo is the crisis of Washington losing its ISIL mercenaries to the Syrian army and Russian air force. The jihadists sent by Obama and the killer bitch Hillary (“We came, we saw, he died”) to destroy Syria are being themselves destroyed. The Obama regime and the Western presstitutes are trying to save the jihadists by covering them in the blanket of “humanitarian crisis.”

Such hypocrisy is standard fare for Washington. If the Obama regime gave a hoot about “humanitarian crisis,” the Obama regime would not have orchestrated humanitarian crisis in Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, and Yemen.


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Re: The war against Syria

Postby miltiades » Tue Oct 18, 2016 8:21 am

" . No one believed the transparent Washington lie, not even the British Parliament."

WRONG !!! Paphitis does :lol: :lol:
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Paphitis » Tue Oct 18, 2016 10:12 am

It really doesn't matter what you believe.

What matters is the position of the Coalition against International Law. The law is not with the Assad/Pootin side.

I would strongly recommend they don't even mention International Law because that only makes them a laughing stock in the international community. It's a bit like Himmler giving us a lecture on law.

If that's ok just like the ethnic cleansing was ok in Bosnia by Serbian militias of Muslims and ethnic kosovars. Well I am afraid we need to be consistent. It also means that it is OK to ethnically cleanse 37% of Cyprus.

This is the type of International Law you talk about? You are only interested in the political point scoring. America's enemies are my friends type of thing. Well the Coalition don't have enemies. We have allies but no enemies. We entered the war to finish off DAESH, not fight Assad's war against more than half the Syrian population, 52 militias (some Kurdish, Assyrian, Yazidi and Armenian) and all Sunni Muslims. Pootin declared war on Sunnis and will pay the price for that. You're in a quagmire.

Whereas Iraq is the blueprint. Our policies on show. Iraq will go on and prosper, Syria is finished!
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Robin Hood » Tue Oct 18, 2016 12:39 pm

Paphitis wrote:It really doesn't matter what you believe.

What matters is the position of the Coalition against International Law. The law is not with the Assad/Pootin side.

I would strongly recommend they don't even mention International Law because that only makes them a laughing stock in the international community. It's a bit like Himmler giving us a lecture on law.

If that's ok just like the ethnic cleansing was ok in Bosnia by Serbian militias of Muslims and ethnic kosovars. Well I am afraid we need to be consistent. It also means that it is OK to ethnically cleanse 37% of Cyprus.

This is the type of International Law you talk about? You are only interested in the political point scoring. America's enemies are my friends type of thing. Well the Coalition don't have enemies. We have allies but no enemies. We entered the war to finish off DAESH, not fight Assad's war against more than half the Syrian population, 52 militias (some Kurdish, Assyrian, Yazidi and Armenian) and all Sunni Muslims. Pootin declared war on Sunnis and will pay the price for that. You're in a quagmire.

Whereas Iraq is the blueprint. Our policies on show. Iraq will go on and prosper, Syria is finished!


You really do live in your own little world of make believe! :roll: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Robin Hood » Tue Oct 18, 2016 4:32 pm

As posted a couple of days ago on RT and here. Coalition intent is now becoming clearer and the logic behind it more obvious!

The rumours appear to be true! The US only has Mosul contained on three sides (N,S and E)and have left a secure Western corridor for them to relocate to Syria, They know their US trained Iraqi army have no more stomach for a fight than they did some years ago when they lost the city to Daesh. Maybe they are also hoping that the terrorists will embed themselves with the refugees, up to 1.5m of them, knowing that neither Assad or Russia could then attack these terrorists without civilian losses.

We will now see how the US plans to deal with the refugees fleeing the fighting in Mosul ...... I predict very little except to appeal to every one else to help prevent a humanitarian disaster. (They have started that already on the US and UK news channels.)

Another sound reason no one can trust the US coalition. :x

Although the coalition have started this action without any plans for dealing with refugees, at least the Russians have been aware for some weeks/months that this was the coalition plan. I think we may see some serious ordnance dropped on Daesh by the Russians and it will be dropped on Iraq too to …..’cut-them-off-at-the-pass’!

Battle For Mosul: ISIS May Relocate To Syria

If ISIS are allowed to leave the Iraqi city of Mosul and go to Syria, Russia would take the appropriate military and political decisions, the Russian foreign minister Sergey Lavrov has warned.

The operation comes amid rumors that the US and Saudi Arabia have struck a deal with ISIS giving them free passage out of Mosul on the condition that they relocate to Eastern Syria.

“As far as I know, the city is not fully encircled. I hope it’s because they simply couldn’t do it, not because they wouldn’t do it. But this corridor poses a risk that Islamic State [Daesh] fighters could flee from Mosul and go to Syria,” Sergey Lavrov said on Tuesday.

http://yournewswire.com/battle-for-mosul-isis-may-relocate-to-syria/
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