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Re: The war against Syria

Postby repulsewarrior » Tue Nov 29, 2016 7:14 pm

...indeed, the dare were those very graphic youtubes they posted at their advent.

Since that didn't galvanize the world to put aside their differences to fight, what is wrong, it was easy for them to imagine they were right.

(and maybe they are, right, about the rest of the world) why do they remain?
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby miltiades » Tue Nov 29, 2016 7:28 pm

Paphitis wrote:
miltiades wrote:Paphitis, you seem to focus on what YOU want ignoring what the media tells us about Trump's intentions on Syria. Now most reasonable observers, and all of us are just mere observers, read what Trump syas and make our own judgement. Not you it appears.
"Donald Trump signifies he will end US support for Syrian rebels despite their pleas to him for help
President-elect appears to reiterate his position that an alliance with Syrian and Russian governments to defeat Isis is his preferred way forward in the Syrian conflict "
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 13346.html
" President-Elect Donald Trump appears to recognize that Syria is not America’s responsibility. Unfortunately, Vice President-Elect Mike Pence, as well as some of those mentioned for top administration positions, take a more militaristic perspective. Trump should announce that his administration will not get involved in Syria’s civil war in any way."
http://www.forbes.com/sites/dougbandow/ ... 0e18ad2cec

Are we to ignore all these and listen to you ! Come on mate use your logic.


The media knows nothing and Trump has given no indication of anything other than appointing a 5 star general as Defence Secretary.

Trump will succumb to the Deep State! What he said during the campaign and what he will do after getting access to all the classified intel will be 2 different things not to mention the fact that the USA has International Partners and Allies and can't afford to go against the tide because doing so will be like shooting himself in the foot!

You stick to your MSM! The same MSM who thinks Fidel is some kind of hero.

So you are telling me that YOU know more about Trump's take on Syria than Trump himself. Mate you are sounding more ridiculous with every post that you make. By the way where is YOUR coalition to help YOUR rebels in Aleppo ? Mate give it up, you haven't the foggiest idea.
By the way I haven't made any comments on Fidel Castro.
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Robin Hood » Tue Nov 29, 2016 8:06 pm

You may be an educated person in your view but daft enough to post this in the wrong thread! (It does not have a lot to do with Castro .... you may have noticed? ) :roll:
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No I haven't! You got it wrong!


How? Nothing you have predicted since this thread started has panned out. Most of the predictions others have expressed have come to pass to one degree or another. It’s not because we are more intelligent than you ..... but most seem to be endowed with more common sense than you are!

The Coalition is continuing its operations in Syria so there is no indication whatsoever that anything has changed.


Aleppo, Syria’s largest city, is almost free of YOUR terrorists. 80%+ of the Syrian people are living in the Government controlled areas; hundreds of towns and villages have been freed by the SAA; Assad is still President ............ Raqqa is still occupied by Daesh ..... and so is Mosul. I think quite a lot has changed for Assad’s fortunes over the last twelve months, but from the coalition side I have to agree with you, very little has apparently changed. :roll:
Assad also has still to take Eastern Aleppo. He took 2 suburbs. These suburbs can be retaken and they will be retaken.


Assad’s forces have taken 50% of Eastern Aleppo which had, until about 60 hours ago been under the control of terrorists for about 4 years. ‘They will be retaken’ ... you really believe that do you? :lol: With what? :lol: Stones don’t work against a well armed and trained Army .... and stones are about all your terrorists have left. :wink:

In addition, there will be a peace settlement of some sortband that settlement has to have our signature on it. Pootin is not involved on any of the recent action because they don't want to be tainted with International War Crimes. They are also very open to regime change under the right circumstances. This is according to the UN Envoy.


Where on earth do you get this crap from? Putin has always said and still does .....”Who rules Syria is the choice of the Syrian people and no one else.”

You are not going to like it.


What? :roll:

If there is no settlement, then we still stay in Syria because we have a client on Syrian turf. Fact is, Pootin will sign anything to protect his interests and Assad is not among his interests. Removing Coalition forces is in his interests and that is not going to happen whilst Assad remains. The Coalition scores a big slice of Syria as its own client where wecan even base troops and hardware. I'm sure Pootin won't like that!


Well ..... you seem to have sources of tactical and geopolitical information at levels most World leaders would envy or is this what the plan is according to your assesment?

Meanwhile .... in the real world the reality is that Assad stays .... until the people decide otherwise. It has nothing to do with your coalition or Putin. It is something you have crowed about in the past ......... it is called SELF DETERMINATION.

One of those great principals you hold so dear you would die to protect!

FYI:
https://www.rt.com/news/368541-aleppo-breakthrough-humanitarian-relief/
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby miltiades » Tue Nov 29, 2016 8:56 pm

More than 4 years on and this disgusting war is still continuing, hundreds of thousands killed and millions displaced, yet Assad is still in power. The so called Arab Spring ( pull the other one its got bells) has brought death and destruction to this part of the world.
America must be held responsible for this major calamity. Who the fuck asked America to get involved, someone no doubt using the same logic as Paphitis. Get the fuck out of Syria so called coalition, let the Syrians sort it out.
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Lordo » Tue Nov 29, 2016 10:13 pm

miltiades wrote:More than 4 years on and this disgusting war is still continuing, hundreds of thousands killed and millions displaced, yet Assad is still in power. The so called Arab Spring ( pull the other one its got bells) has brought death and destruction to this part of the world.
America must be held responsible for this major calamity. Who the fuck asked America to get involved, someone no doubt using the same logic as Paphitis. Get the fuck out of Syria so called coalition, let the Syrians sort it out.

you what

you secret daesh supporter


dont blame the arab spring

the arab spering was fine it was the reaction of the yanks and the bastard russians that did it.

i see you is begining to see the light
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Schnauzer » Tue Nov 29, 2016 11:16 pm

It's not a question of 'Seeing the Light', more a case of dropping the bag on "GOD BLESS AMERICA, THE GREATEST NATION ON EARTH" and leaning a bit more towards Russia, now that he is trying to poke his way around a bit of 'Belarusian Pussy'. :lol:
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby miltiades » Wed Nov 30, 2016 6:00 am

My views on the Syrian issue and the West's involvement have not altered one iota since my very fist post on this thread way back in October 2012, ( see page 15 ). Unlike some brain dead zombies such as the Pervert and Vordo who enthusiastically support ALL heinous acts committed by their brothers, the fucking savages, I use logic, logic that has been honed over 50 plus years of being interested in not only politics but conflicts the world over. A wise man will judge and conclude on acts not based on prejudices and pre conceived notions but on realities.

LONG LIVE AMERICA THE GREATEST NATION ON EARTH ( AFTER CYPRUS)
LONG MAY OUR WESTERN VALUES CONTINUE.
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby miltiades » Wed Nov 30, 2016 6:19 am

FOR PAPHITIS:

"By Tom Perry and Laila Bassam | BEIRUT

The Syrian army and its allies announced the capture of a large swath of eastern Aleppo from rebels on Monday in an accelerating attack that threatens to crush the opposition in its most important urban stronghold.

Two rebel officials said the insurgents, facing fierce bombardment and ground attacks, had withdrawn from the northern part of eastern Aleppo to a more defensible front line along a big highway after losses that threatened to split their enclave.

The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said the northern portion of eastern Aleppo lost by the rebels amounted to more than a third of the territory they had held, calling it the biggest defeat for the opposition in Aleppo since 2012."
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-midea ... SKBN13N0H4

The coalition has been abandoning the Syrian rebels long ago.

" Nonetheless, not everyone in the White House will lament the decision to drop it from the spending bill: Congress’s disenchantment with the Syrian rebels is shared by many officials inside the administration, following the rebels' losses to Assad, IS and the al-Nusra Front in northern Syrian cities such as Idlib. There is particular frustration that these setbacks resulted in some advanced American weaponry falling into extremist hands.

Reflecting that dissatisfaction, the Obama administration has taken a series of steps in recent weeks to distance the U.S. from the moderate rebels in the north, by cutting off their weapons flow and refusing to allow them to meet with U.S. military officials, right at the time they are struggling to survive in and around Aleppo, Syria’s largest city.

Leaders of the Free Syrian Army and representatives of the Syrian National Coalition tell me they have now been almost completely cut off from what they saw as already meager support from the Western coalition led by the U.S. Over the last month, the flow of weapons and ammunition to FSA groups in the north has stopped, these leaders say. Three FSA-linked groups are still receiving limited financial "
https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles ... oning-them

The above from December 2014. Paphitis wake up mate. The rebels " struggle " is coming to an end.
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Robin Hood » Wed Nov 30, 2016 9:13 am

Paphitis:

A few more of your myths exposed ............ :roll:

You wholly believed the propaganda that the civilians trapped in Eastern Aleppo would not leave because they were frightened of what the Assad regime would do to them. According to you, they were happy being ‘protected’ by your terrorists from evil Assad? There were no hostages!

These escaping civilians seem to express nothing but gratitude to the SAA for the release from a living hell under the terrorist regime YOU created, supplied and supported. Apparently this scene is being repeated by some 16,000+ refugees fleeing the terrorist held territory as the SAA advances. Many are heading for Government areas and others to Kurdish held areas.

So you got it all wrong again! :lol:

Tears, Hugs and Smiles, the Relief of Escaping Imprisonment in East Aleppo - By Vanessa Beeley

These images and videos will never see the light of day in the corporate media editing rooms because they expose their almost six year narrative on Syria as one of the most criminal propaganda projects ever deployed against a sovereign nation, its people, its state and its national army.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article45938.htm


So you say you don’t get your information from the MSM and never have, but rely on information provided by The UN, NGO’s and of course, your exclusive ‘special’ sources that no one but you has access to.

This NGO outfit along with The Syrian Observatory on Human Rights and BellingCat, among a host of pro-terrorist sympathetic outfits, are the very NGO’s you believe. They are also the same people that provide the information to the MSM and the UN. So you are being fed propaganda because you lack the ability to see through the smoke and mirrors. The UN, like your coalition and the MSM, take instructions from the US Establishment Elite and the stories you read are certainly designed to deceive but you ‘turn again’ and now acknowledge they are mainly false.

You are still swallowing propaganda! The only way you will find something more akin to the truth is from independent journalists. The ones your information providers avoid like the plague!

How a Syrian White Helmets Leader Played Western Media - By Gareth Porter

Reporters who rely on the White Helmets' leader in Aleppo ignore his record of deception and risk manipulation.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article45943.htm
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Robin Hood » Wed Nov 30, 2016 10:41 am

This author makes a few good points ………….

US-backed “Rebels” Face Defeat in Aleppo

• The civilians fleeing eastern Aleppo told stories of the horrors of the Russian-Syrian government bombing campaign as well as the repression and terror carried out by the Islamists controlling the neighborhoods in the east. It has been widely reported that the US-backed militias previously shot civilians trying to leave.

• The media and Obama administration officials have violently denounced the Syrian government and its ally Russia for the siege of eastern Aleppo. The situation today, however, is the reverse of what prevailed a year ago when the so-called rebels were laying siege to western Aleppo, which faced an imminent humanitarian catastrophe. At that time, there were no humanitarian concerns expressed by Washington.

• Both the Russian media and the Washington Post reported Monday that US Secretary of State John Kerry has mounted a new campaign aimed at brokering a ceasefire in Aleppo. While couched in humanitarian rhetoric, the principal aim of these efforts is to prevent the complete collapse of the US-backed militias and the consolidation of the Assad government’s control over all of Syria’s major population centres.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/us-backed-rebels-face-rout-in-aleppo/5559552
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