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Re: The war against Syria

Postby miltiades » Fri Dec 02, 2016 6:14 am

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Paphitis wrote:Still business as usual for the Coalition in Syria.

Arms shipments are still proceeding as normal to the Kurdish Controlled area to the north east where there are some FSA units seeking refuge. lots of javelins and TOW Manpads for the Kurds and FSA.

The only issue now is communication to the Eastern Aleppo strongholds, but these too can be overcome easily until our forces are ready to launch a major offensive.

it's a very small corridor the regime has and which can easily be broken, in less than a day.

Our forces still reign supreme in Eastern Aleppo.

Any links ???? :lol: :lol:


He is the missing link!


Oh that's not very nice. :lol:

Oh well.

And don't get too excited Oracle. The insurgents only lost 2 neighborhoods and are regrouping. This is ONLY a setback, its not what i would call a comprehensive defeat. They still control eastern Aleppo and will fight another day. Even if Eastern Aleppo falls, they will still be fighting another day for another 10 years unless there is a comprehensive settlement.

Syria is broken now, Expect no peace for as long as it takes. Expect to be dealing with DAESH for next 10 years as well.

this is an unwinnable war. The only means to defeat these groups is to remove the reasons that motivate them.

In order to beat groups like DAESH, you need the support of the Sunni tribes. that is the harsh reality of it. If the Sunni tribes feel abandoned, then they wilkl flee into the arms of DAESH. That is what the coalition has been successful in achieving in Iraq.

And it doesn't appear to be occurring in Syria, so good luck with pushing shit uphill. :lol:

now the good news is this. America and the coalition have known this for a long time, and implemented a strategy for it in Iraq.

Pootin knows it too, as far as what is being said through UN intermediaries and Envoys. So anticipate some kind of comprehensive settlement in the first half of next year, and also expect transition and regime change soon after.

You are so out of touch mate! America has now been side-lined, the coalition has all but given up on the rebels.
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Paphitis » Fri Dec 02, 2016 6:24 am

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miltiades wrote:
Paphitis wrote:Still business as usual for the Coalition in Syria.

Arms shipments are still proceeding as normal to the Kurdish Controlled area to the north east where there are some FSA units seeking refuge. lots of javelins and TOW Manpads for the Kurds and FSA.

The only issue now is communication to the Eastern Aleppo strongholds, but these too can be overcome easily until our forces are ready to launch a major offensive.

it's a very small corridor the regime has and which can easily be broken, in less than a day.

Our forces still reign supreme in Eastern Aleppo.

Any links ???? :lol: :lol:


He is the missing link!


Oh that's not very nice. :lol:

Oh well.

And don't get too excited Oracle. The insurgents only lost 2 neighborhoods and are regrouping. This is ONLY a setback, its not what i would call a comprehensive defeat. They still control eastern Aleppo and will fight another day. Even if Eastern Aleppo falls, they will still be fighting another day for another 10 years unless there is a comprehensive settlement.

Syria is broken now, Expect no peace for as long as it takes. Expect to be dealing with DAESH for next 10 years as well.

this is an unwinnable war. The only means to defeat these groups is to remove the reasons that motivate them.

In order to beat groups like DAESH, you need the support of the Sunni tribes. that is the harsh reality of it. If the Sunni tribes feel abandoned, then they wilkl flee into the arms of DAESH. That is what the coalition has been successful in achieving in Iraq.

And it doesn't appear to be occurring in Syria, so good luck with pushing shit uphill. :lol:

now the good news is this. America and the coalition have known this for a long time, and implemented a strategy for it in Iraq.

Pootin knows it too, as far as what is being said through UN intermediaries and Envoys. So anticipate some kind of comprehensive settlement in the first half of next year, and also expect transition and regime change soon after.

You are so out of touch mate! America has now been side-lined, the coalition has all but given up on the rebels.
https://www.ft.com/content/bc167c3a-b71 ... acd97f622d


Don't think so mate.

according to you, we had given up over a year ago, but our rebels still hold East Aleppo.

We will only give up once there is a comprehensive settlement and I will be around to rub it in again, once the rebels regain control of more territory.

BTW, your article seems to highlight Assad's precarious position. Russia admitted that the regime would be unable to hold Aleppo even if it defeated the rebels. I've been telling you this for a very long time. For the Regime to hold onto Aleppo, they need troops and resources and they don't have a lot.

AND btw, a settlement without the Coalition just means that the Coalition stays in Syria, and we end up with a US backed client and proxy (The Kurdish Controlled Areas). so no skin of our backs, but a lot for pootin to worry about. Got to laugh at stupidity now don't you? A thorn for both Russia and Turkey.

Which is all very good for us, if the Turks are playing games.
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby miltiades » Fri Dec 02, 2016 6:44 am

Sorry mate, you are still out of touch. Have you, by any chance, noticed that President elect Trump wants out of Syria. Unless of course you can convince him otherwise.
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Paphitis » Fri Dec 02, 2016 6:49 am

miltiades wrote:Sorry mate, you are still out of touch. Have you, by any chance, noticed that President elect Trump wants out of Syria. Unless of course you can convince him otherwise.


I think you are out of touch. Time and time again, you are clasping at straws.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-12-02/a ... ce/8085810

All rebel groups in east Aleppo have actually now united as of yesterday. You want East Aleppo, then come and get it! we will see what happens when you enter the fortified part of the city.
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby miltiades » Fri Dec 02, 2016 7:50 am

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miltiades wrote:Sorry mate, you are still out of touch. Have you, by any chance, noticed that President elect Trump wants out of Syria. Unless of course you can convince him otherwise.


I think you are out of touch. Time and time again, you are clasping at straws.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-12-02/a ... ce/8085810

All rebel groups in east Aleppo have actually now united as of yesterday. You want East Aleppo, then come and get it! we will see what happens when you enter the fortified part of the city.

Interesting article , especially this : On Sunday and Monday the city's rebels suffered their biggest reverse in four years, losing around a third of the area they had controlled."

I also noted Turkeys support of the new rebel group !!!

So you think that I'm clutching at straws :lol: :lol:

Paphitis, face it mate, the rebels may very well regroup and continue fighting but by all accounts without the support of America they will have to rely on the two .....great democracies, Turkey and Saudi Arabia, which by the way has just announced that its women folk will be allowed to fly ....bomber aircraft in the year 3001 :lol: That of course will materialize when women are allowed to drive cars. !!! Do you really think that a group supported by Turkey will somehow survive and go on to topple Assad ?
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Paphitis » Fri Dec 02, 2016 8:00 am

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miltiades wrote:Sorry mate, you are still out of touch. Have you, by any chance, noticed that President elect Trump wants out of Syria. Unless of course you can convince him otherwise.


I think you are out of touch. Time and time again, you are clasping at straws.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-12-02/a ... ce/8085810

All rebel groups in east Aleppo have actually now united as of yesterday. You want East Aleppo, then come and get it! we will see what happens when you enter the fortified part of the city.

Interesting article , especially this : On Sunday and Monday the city's rebels suffered their biggest reverse in four years, losing around a third of the area they had controlled."

I also noted Turkeys support of the new rebel group !!!

So you think that I'm clutching at straws :lol: :lol:

Paphitis, face it mate, the rebels may very well regroup and continue fighting but by all accounts without the support of America they will have to rely on the two .....great democracies, Turkey and Saudi Arabia, which by the way has just announced that its women folk will be allowed to fly ....bomber aircraft in the year 3001 :lol: That of course will materialize when women are allowed to drive cars. !!! Do you really think that a group supported by Turkey will somehow survive and go on to topple Assad ?


The media say a lot of things.

And only 1 month ago, the Rebels took control of areas under the regime's control.

It will flux and change, but I would be more concerned with the news that Aleppo rebel groups are uniting under one banner, which was the biggest weakness in the past.

And I will be around when they retake lost ground within the next few weeks.

You can dress it up anyway you like. Fact is, they still control most of East Aleppo, and this defeat could have been the best kick up the backside which they needed.

The regime seems desperate to end this before the inauguration of Trump. That won't happen. So what gives with that anyway? I thought Trump was going to help the regime? :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby miltiades » Fri Dec 02, 2016 9:27 am

Paphitis, the rebels have been defeated. Its a matter of time now before all of Aleppo returns to its lawful government. Turkey and Saudi Arabia will be the only countries supporting the rebels.
The coalition has entered its " sell by date".

Assad will not fall either now either now or in the near future, yes there will be changes but Sharia law will not be introduced in Syria.
Let us hope that soon this horrid war comes to an end, enough killing and destruction.
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Robin Hood » Fri Dec 02, 2016 9:34 am

Paphitis:
The media say a lot of things.


Unfortunately, a lot of it distorted, or just simply ‘false news’. (That's the IN word for propaganda) :roll: :lol:
And only 1 month ago, the Rebels took control of areas under the regime's control.


Yes they did ..... and less than 24 hours later they lost it again and much more besides, even though YOU had given them 50+ tonnes of weapons and supplies ..... oh and they lost all of that too! :lol:

It will flux and change, but I would be more concerned with the news that Aleppo rebel groups are uniting under one banner, which was the biggest weakness in the past.


They have always been under one banner ..... Al-Qaida ..... or whatever names they chose .... it’s all one terrorist group, supported by the US, but they couldn't work out which ones were their's!

And I will be around when they retake lost ground within the next few weeks.


......... it’s going to be a long wait for you! :roll:

You can dress it up anyway you like. Fact is, they still control most of East Aleppo, and this defeat could have been the best kick up the backside which they needed.


The terrorists have now lost almost half of the territory in the besieged areas of Eastern Aleppo they have controlled for years. The stories that are coming out with the civilians of the abuse they have suffered from the so called FSA and your ‘moderate’ terrorists is horrendous. But you need to go and look for it ..... because the MSM is avoiding that aspect so far. RT are covering their exodus though!

The regime seems desperate to end this before the inauguration of Trump. That won't happen. So what gives with that anyway? I thought Trump was going to help the regime?


You are soooo out of date with your terminology! :D Whilst ‘The Regime’ has been the term used for the last few years ..... it is now being referred to on many MSM channels as ‘ The forces of President Bashar-al-Assad’.

By the end of this month, Aleppo will at last be free from YOUR terrorists. In case you missed it .... Trump is NOT the US President yet, so he can make all the speeches and promises he likes. What will count is what happens when he takes over from Obama. (HE was full of promises too .... when he started!) :roll:
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Paphitis » Fri Dec 02, 2016 9:45 am

miltiades wrote:Paphitis, the rebels have been defeated. Its a matter of time now before all of Aleppo returns to its lawful government. Turkey and Saudi Arabia will be the only countries supporting the rebels.
The coalition has entered its " sell by date".

Assad will not fall either now either now or in the near future, yes there will be changes but Sharia law will not be introduced in Syria.
Let us hope that soon this horrid war comes to an end, enough killing and destruction.


The Rebels have not been defeated. They still have Eastern Aleppo.

our rebels were supposedly defeated many times miltiades. Remember?

there are no easy ways into Aleppo i am afraid. for Assad to take Aleppo, he will have to do it house to house and he will lose thousands of soldiers. And his forces are literally decimated. if he takes it, he is unable to do anything else because his forces will need to retain Aleppo! he has no strategic depth.

In other words milti, Assad has lost big time. i've been saying this for a very long time, and I have always been proven right in everything I have said so far.
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Paphitis » Fri Dec 02, 2016 9:58 am

The media say a lot of things.


Robin Hood wrote:Unfortunately, a lot of it distorted, or just simply ‘false news’. (That's the IN word for propaganda) :roll: :lol:


say's the man who is fixated on "unbiased" Russian mouthpieces and propaganda and agenda driven garbage sites.

And only 1 month ago, the Rebels took control of areas under the regime's control.


Robin Hood wrote:Yes they did ..... and less than 24 hours later they lost it again and much more besides, even though YOU had given them 50+ tonnes of weapons and supplies ..... oh and they lost all of that too! :lol:


They only lost those areas now and they nearly took the airport.

and they will retake many of these areas within the next few days or coming weeks.

It will flux and change, but I would be more concerned with the news that Aleppo rebel groups are uniting under one banner, which was the biggest weakness in the past.


Robin Hood wrote:They have always been under one banner ..... Al-Qaida ..... or whatever names they chose .... it’s all one terrorist group, supported by the US, but they couldn't work out which ones were their's!


That is your opinion. As far as we are concerned, the majority of these forces are considered moderate forces, and if they team up with other groups for their own survival then that is fine as well.

it's about survival and we don't care about AL Qaeda.

And I will be around when they retake lost ground within the next few weeks.


Robin Hood wrote:......... it’s going to be a long wait for you! :roll:


it's been a long wait for you. You been waiting for the fall of Aleppo for a long time and you're still waiting. And at your age, you don't have a lot of time. :lol:

You can dress it up anyway you like. Fact is, they still control most of East Aleppo, and this defeat could have been the best kick up the backside which they needed.


Robin Hood wrote:The terrorists have now lost almost half of the territory in the besieged areas of Eastern Aleppo they have controlled for years. The stories that are coming out with the civilians of the abuse they have suffered from the so called FSA and your ‘moderate’ terrorists is horrendous. But you need to go and look for it ..... because the MSM is avoiding that aspect so far. RT are covering their exodus though!


They haven't even lost a third and that's where it ended.

yeh sure, all those stories were manufactured no doubt. Don't worry, these refugees will be in europe in no time seeking asylum from Assad.

as I told you, you will be waiting for a very long time, and the rebels will commence another offensive very soon.

The regime seems desperate to end this before the inauguration of Trump. That won't happen. So what gives with that anyway? I thought Trump was going to help the regime?


Robin Hood wrote:You are soooo out of date with your terminology! :D Whilst ‘The Regime’ has been the term used for the last few years ..... it is now being referred to on many MSM channels as ‘ The forces of President Bashar-al-Assad’.


no the term is still current. it is still the regime.

Robin Hood wrote:By the end of this month, Aleppo will at last be free from YOUR terrorists. In case you missed it .... Trump is NOT the US President yet, so he can make all the speeches and promises he likes. What will count is what happens when he takes over from Obama. (HE was full of promises too .... when he started!) :roll:


:lol:

Famous last words. you said that in December 2015!

Yeh right! :lol: :lol:
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