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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Paphitis » Fri Jan 12, 2018 9:03 am

repulsewarrior wrote:https://geopoliticalfutures.com/turkey-breaks-iran-russia/

interesting article, interesting site.


I would suggest you stop feeding the internet propaganda troll.

It’s just not worth it and you are giving him a springboard to propagate complete and utter misinformation.

If you want real time information about Syria, just PM me and I can provide you with dozens of reputable and acclaimed sources and some very interesting information where you can learn as much as you like!

The vitriol this man spews is just vile and I cite The White Helmets as an example. The were civil rescue teams pulling people from under the rubble, ambulance drivers, and first responders. They have or had as much right to life as anyone else.

The law will catch up with Assad. It always does. No one is immune. Not even Anerica’s Muppets are immune from The Hague. If you kill thousands of people, then expect your day of reckoning to come. The West never gives up till the target is in their grave.
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Robin Hood » Fri Jan 12, 2018 3:04 pm

RW I leave you to make up your own mind. The White Helmets ..........

First article is from the Guardian by a journalist that has never even been to Syria and denigrates those that have and believes that the White Helmets are guardian angels.

It is a quick read ..... and suits Paphitis approach to ‘the truth’. Anything that counters this view he deems a ‘conspiracy theory’.

The second is a response from one of the people the first article attacks, Eva Bartlett. She corrects the insinuations made of her involvement and the views of other journalists, of Assad and the people, and the White Helmets. She has been there, knows the region well. It is a LONG read, as such is detailed, is informative and it is only Part I, part II to follow. She sure is detailed which would make me believe that her journalistic contributions are equally well researched.

First The Guardian .......

How Syria's White Helmets became victims of an online propaganda machine - by Olivia Solon

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/dec/18/syria-white-helmets-conspiracy-theories


Second from Global Research .........

Eva Bartlett’s response ..... which incidentally was not even commented on by either The Guardian or Olivia Solon.
How the Mainstream Media Whitewashed Al-Qaeda and the White Helmets in Syria - By Eva Bartlett

https://www.globalresearch.ca/how-the-mainstream-media-whitewashed-al-qaeda-and-the-white-helmets-in-syria/5624930


For entertainment .......

This is the short (5 min) encounter that put Eva Bartlett on the media map!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=heEHmXTmLlE


.......... and this one is a real laugh ......... who is the intelligent one here? This Dilly makes me think of Paphitis he certainly has the same views on Rissia, Hezbollah and the Iranians! :lol: :lol:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JFEmCKHVME
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby repulsewarrior » Sat Jan 20, 2018 3:59 am

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Re: The war against Syria

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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Robin Hood » Sat Jan 20, 2018 6:15 pm

Plan A was a failure so the US now intends to impose their will by funding, supplying and using US air power to support DAESH II led by the Kurds. Should be interesting? I wonder what would happen if Assad declared a ‘No-Fly’ zone (US Style) over Syria as of course he would have every right to do? :roll:

An informative article and shows that the last thing the US coalition wants in the ME is peace ....... it’s bad for (the arms) business!!

Trump’s Plan B for Syria: Occupation and Intimidation - By Mike Whitney

On Wednesday, Secretary of State Rex Tillerson announced the creation of a de facto autonomous Kurdish state in east Syria that will be supported by the United States and defended by a US-backed “proxy” army of occupation. Tillerson’s announcement was made at a confab he attended at Stanford University at the Hoover Institute. According to The Hill:
Secretary of State Rex Tillerson on Wednesday outlined a new U.S. strategy in Syria, hinging on maintaining an indefinite military presence in the country with the goal of ousting the government of Syrian President Bashar Assad and keeping militant groups at bay
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Speaking at the Hoover Institution at Stanford University, Tillerson sought to make the case for an extended U.S. military role, backed by a United Nations-brokered political solution, in the war-torn country.

A U.S. withdrawal, he said, would likely have disastrous consequences.

Total withdrawal would restore Assad and continue brutal treatment of his own people,” Tillerson said. (Tillerson outlines plan for long-term US military role in Syria”, The Hill)

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Re: The war against Syria

Postby repulsewarrior » Wed Jan 24, 2018 1:20 am

let's not forget,

ALEPPO, Syria — The United Nations announced Jan. 16 that the escalation of violence in northwest Syria has led to the displacement of more than 200,000 people since mid-December. The United Nations Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs said in a report that it had recorded 212,140 instances of displacement between Dec. 15 and Jan. 16.

This humanitarian tragedy came after Syrian regime and paramilitary forces, assisted by Russian aircraft, stepped up air, artillery and missile strikes against opposition-held cities and towns in the southern countryside of Aleppo, the southeastern countryside of Idlib and the northeastern countryside of Hama.

Read more: http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/origina ... z553IQn42T


...the rest of the article may be fluff when it comes to the Humanitarian issue, what is being done seems so little compared to the actual scale of the displacement; this is the news, in any case that very few are reporting.
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Robin Hood » Wed Jan 24, 2018 11:29 am

The latest update from SouthFront ........ a report by Saker. Included: .......

........... the SAA fully encircled remaining forces of Hayat Tahrir al-Sham (HTS) and ISIS in eastern Idlib and northwestern Aleppo.

Meanwhile, fierce fighting continued in Afrin. Kurdish forces in area faced the same problem from which their Peshmerga counterparts suffered in Kirkuk. They de-facto rejected close cooperation with all players except the US, but Washington is not rushing to help.

https://thesaker.is/syrian-war-report-january-22-2018-abu-al-duhur-liberation-operation-olive-branch/


RW: The information is there but if you rely only on MSM you will only get half (or less) of the story.

However I have noticed in the last 6 months that when you Google a particular news event ............ the first 4-5 pages or more, are all MSM references. You really have to delve deep to find the independent sites! Whilst not exactly censorship there is obviously an algorithm being used that gives MSM outlets priority exposure. It is getting harder to get through the propaganda and fake news! :roll: :wink:
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Robin Hood » Wed Jan 24, 2018 7:25 pm

I know this is off thread but I commented on this in my last post in this thread ....... and I was right!!!! :evil: :evil: :evil:

How’s this for coincidence? Because I actually subscribe to some of these sites I get a daily newsletter and I expect most that read these sites subscribe. Had I not been signed up for this site I would never have seen this article and many others I post on here! But it now seems just to Google with a relevant phrase or buzz words is no longer enough as Google, Facebook, Twitter, YouTube etc now do the governments censorship for them ..... all the masses get is what ‘They’ want you to know through a carefully controlled MSM.

George Orwells 1984 is here ...... and there are those that are stupid enough to rejoice in their own slavery. You no longer have the right to make your own mind up, the masses are told how to think! :roll: :x

Thought Police for the 21st Century - By Chris Hedges

In late April and early May the World Socialist Web Site, which identifies itself as a Trotskyite group that focuses on the crimes of capitalism, the plight of the working class and imperialism, began to see a steep decline in readership. The decline persisted into June. Search traffic to the World Socialist Web Site has been reduced by 75 percent overall. And the site is not alone. AlterNet’s search traffic is down 71 percent, Consortium News is down 72 percent, Global Research and Truthdig have seen declines. And the situation appears to be growing worse.

The reductions coincided with the introduction of algorithms imposed by Google to fight “fake news.” Google said the algorithms are designed to elevate “more authoritative content” and marginalize “blatantly misleading, low quality, offensive or downright false information.” It soon became apparent, however, that in the name of combating “fake news,” Google, Facebook, YouTube and Twitter are censoring left-wing, progressive and anti-war sites. The 150 most popular search terms that brought readers to the World Socialist Web Site, including “socialism,” “Russian Revolution” and “inequality,” today elicit little or no traffic.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/48655.htm
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Robin Hood » Fri Jan 26, 2018 4:16 pm

I have followed The Saker from the time of Maidan in Ukraine. Invariably but not always, his analysis of conflict situations are pretty accurate. This is a fairly long analysis of events in Syria from day 1 through to the present fighting in Afrin and the view into the future intent of the Western coalition of military forces (What he refers to as the AngloZionist Empire, which is a perfectly logical description ! ). If you have the time to spare I think it is worth a read.

Uncle Sam dumps the Kurds (yet again) – by The Saker

The drama which is unfolding in northern Syria is truly an almost ideal case to fully assess how weak and totally dysfunctional the AngloZionist Empire has really become. Let’s begin with a quick reminder.

The US-Israeli goals in Syria were really very simple. As I have already mentioned in a past article, the initial AngloZionist plan was to overthrow Assad and replace him with the Takfiri crazies (Daesh, al-Qaeda, al-Nusra, ISIS – call them whatever you want). Doing this would achieve the following goals:

1. Bring down a strong secular Arab state along with its political structure, armed forces and security services.
2. Create total chaos and horror in Syria justifying the creation of a “security zone” by Israel not only in the Golan, but further north.
3. Trigger a civil war in Lebanon by unleashing the Takfiri crazies against Hezbollah.
4. Let the Takfiris and Hezbollah bleed each other to death, then create a “security zone”, but this time in Lebanon.
5. Prevent the creation of a Shia axis Iran-Iraq-Syria-Lebanon.
6. Breakup Syria along ethnic and religious lines.
7. Create a Kurdistan which could then be used against Turkey, Syria, Iraq and Iran.
8. Make it possible for Israel to become the uncontested power broker in the Middle-East and forces the KSA, Qatar, Oman, Kuwait and all others to have to go to Israel for any gas or oil pipeline project.
9. Gradually isolate, threaten, subvert and eventually attack Iran with a wide regional coalition of forces.
10. Eliminate all center of Shia power in the Middle-East.

With the joint Russian-Iranian military intervention, this plan completely collapsed. For a while, the USA tried to break up Syria under various scenarios, but the way the Russian Aerospace forces hammered all the “good terrorists” eventually convinced the AngloZionists that this would not work.

The rest of the article …….

https://thesaker.is/uncle-sam-dumps-the-kurds-yet-again/
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby repulsewarrior » Wed Jan 31, 2018 8:12 pm

...i have read recently the same kind of comment; is this where it is heading?

https://ahvalnews.com/us-turkey/turkey-settling-scores-us-not-kurds-columnist

“You will see, they are going to lose this war. Their plans to try and siege Turkey – which they could not intervene in internally – to bring it down on its knees are also going to go down the drain. While they make plans to siege, we are going to build a Turkey shield in the region they are going to siege. The siege map is going to turn into a line of defence,” Karagül said.

“A new power map has been formed; the geography is being reshaped; the top power domain throughout the world has been shaken; the U.S. or the West’s one-sided dominance has ended; the era of “star powers/countries” has started,” he said.
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