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Re: Greece+Cyprus will eventually save the Euro+the EU

Postby Lordo » Tue Jan 18, 2022 6:57 pm

Lets go back to square one shall we?

So you think Turkey would not go to war over this with Cyprus and Greece.

Did you know that the real reason the WW1 started was because Britain refused to allow Germany to export pins to India?

Those thoughts you have about Turkey taking no action was also tested in 63/64 and then 67 and then last time 74. I wonder the next time they are tested in 2024 or 2027? Any ideas which year?

As to resources going to Egypt is a good idea as Turkey has no cotrol over that part but what will Asshole Sisi pay you with sand or camel dung? I guess Camel dung is a good exchange because you can use it as fuel. Especially as the GRoC is the size of a dung beatle when compared with her neighbours.
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Re: Greece+Cyprus will eventually save the Euro+the EU

Postby Lordo » Tue Jan 18, 2022 7:00 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Lordo wrote:For years we have been warning that the construction of the EastMed pharaoh pipeline between Greece, Cyprus and Israel is impossible.
- Its construction would be very expensive. Any of his operations would be environmentally dangerous. Its product, natural gas, in a few years, will be unwanted in Europe, as the EU has decided after 2050 not to use fossil fuels, due to climate change.
- But mainly it had an unlawful goal to exclude Turkey from energy sources and cooperation of the Eastern Mediterranean. This was not possible to be accepted by her, but also other powerful players in the area.
- In the Greece-Cyprus-Israel agreement for EastMed, Turkey responded with the summary of the Turkish-Libyan Agreement. And he sent the research ship "Oruts Race" to implement it on the field.
- The leaders of Greece and Cyprus tried to establish the solution of the Greek-Turkish differences and the Cyprus one, with the three-party cooperation between Greece-Cyprus-Israel and Greece-Cyprivate-Egypt.
- With the signature for EastMed and the great publicity they gave, they wanted to show within themselves that they are doing something, and to use it politically within their countries.
- It's not just Americans who think the pipeline is impossible and unfit. Already the European Union, with statements from its officials, states that it will not include the construction of the pipeline in funded projects, as it is contrary to its energy policy.
- Very recently, the major energy companies, TOTAL, Exxon Mobil, etc. oh, they said they are suspending investigations into hydrocarbonnets in the east and southeast of Crete. This is due, and that fossil fuels are not profitable, but also that the Exclusive Economic Zones (EEZ) between Greece, Turkey and other countries in the region are not decomposed.
- Only with energy cooperation from all Eastern Mediterranean countries, including Turkey, can these issues be resolved. The proposal by the President of the European Council, Charles Michelle, for a Conference of the Eastern Mediterranean Countries, on issues of regional security, energy cooperation and the direction of the EEZ should be put to use.

Have you started frothing in the mouth yet?

So after your embarrassment of falsely claiming that the RoC has been drilling gas for 10 years, you now make a completely different comeback by unashamedly posting things I’ve already informed you about mixed with a bunch of false and misconstrued assumptions, as well as the daft opinion of the "TRNC"! :)

If it has not been 10 years it certainly feels that long. No drilling, no platforms for extraction, no plant to recieve the resourses and no pipeline. I guess to much pleaure in moucho activity.
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Re: Greece+Cyprus will eventually save the Euro+the EU

Postby repulsewarrior » Tue Jan 18, 2022 7:20 pm

https://thegreekcurrent.simplecast.com/ ... 662d4b4d2a

...as usual, Turkish analysis tends to exaggerate.

Who knows, the pipeline may go through Turkey, it has only to recognise that Cypriots exist. And who knows, the pipeline as discussed may be built despite the cost, because of security concerns.

...in any case, Turkey's actions are likely to cause more reactions. Isolated by her own choice, being a threat to all her neighbours, disrupting the International order, what can she expect?

Cyprus on the other hand has done well with its efforts despite the delays Turkey has caused these efforts. It, Cyprus, exists in a Leadership role, having established the East Med. Gas Forum (with Egypt and Greece), a collective (which Turkey will not join) where all interested parties share their thoughts and intentions as equals. It is hopeful, where else do Israel and Palestine sit together; what is Turkey offering instead? The gas exists, and it will be exploited, but, i ask, is it only about gas? War, over it, is not an unlikely hypothesis, and more importantly War, over Erdogan's intentions for a "new" Turkey are also not hard to foresee.
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Re: Greece+Cyprus will eventually save the Euro+the EU

Postby Lordo » Tue Jan 18, 2022 8:07 pm

No RW, the times are changing, The gas is being phased out, renewable energy is in. Cyprus has the sun, wind and water, over 100 dams. It really is not rocket science which way the energy policy should be point at. Supply the country with it and fuck everybody else.
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Re: Greece+Cyprus will eventually save the Euro+the EU

Postby Kikapu » Tue Jan 18, 2022 8:59 pm

Lordo wrote:No RW, the times are changing, The gas is being phased out, renewable energy is in. Cyprus has the sun, wind and water, over 100 dams. It really is not rocket science which way the energy policy should be point at. Supply the country with it and fuck everybody else.

Hydrocarbons are a commodity and an asset to whomever has it as a source, which is worth a lot of money when it is being exported. Cyprus does not need to use it all, but export it to use the monies earned from it to invest in renewable energy, which is very costly to develop.
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Re: Greece+Cyprus will eventually save the Euro+the EU

Postby Lordo » Tue Jan 18, 2022 9:42 pm

Kikapu wrote:
Lordo wrote:No RW, the times are changing, The gas is being phased out, renewable energy is in. Cyprus has the sun, wind and water, over 100 dams. It really is not rocket science which way the energy policy should be point at. Supply the country with it and fuck everybody else.

Hydrocarbons are a commodity and an asset to whomever has it as a source, which is worth a lot of money when it is being exported. Cyprus does not need to use it all, but export it to use the monies earned from it to invest in renewable energy, which is very costly to develop.

You cannot be serious man. You think these ebergy giants will give that much money to RoC. After they dedict their pretend costs, there will be very little left for Cyprus.

The best way forward to increase solar power and wind power generation, both of which is plentyful in Cyprus and leave the gas alone as well as Hydro electic as there is over 100 dams in Cyprus. It is so deep that no matter how high gas prices go it will not be viable because of the location in the water and to transpot to EU. Liquification is also a waste of time too

Anybody have any details how much will be left after the energy company draws the gas from the well?

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Re: Greece+Cyprus will eventually save the Euro+the EU

Postby Pyrpolizer » Tue Jan 18, 2022 10:55 pm

Lordo wrote:Lets go back to square one shall we?

So you think Turkey would not go to war over this with Cyprus and Greece.

Did you know that the real reason the WW1 started was because Britain refused to allow Germany to export pins to India?

Those thoughts you have about Turkey taking no action was also tested in 63/64 and then 67 and then last time 74. I wonder the next time they are tested in 2024 or 2027? Any ideas which year?

As to resources going to Egypt is a good idea as Turkey has no cotrol over that part but what will Asshole Sisi pay you with sand or camel dung? I guess Camel dung is a good exchange because you can use it as fuel. Especially as the GRoC is the size of a dung beatle when compared with her neighbours.


Yeah Turkey proved very effective in "winning" wars against 1/80th her own size. Remind me the last time Turkey won any war? Oh yeah it was in 1922 when the Greek army was about to take Ankara. Lucky Araturk the Greeks committed suicide, otherwise Turkey wouldn't even exist today.
Don't be brainwashed. Turkey never started a war without been 100% sure it would win.
Mark my words, when any Turkish ship dares do anything near Crete, Greece will sink it.

You never served in the Army therefore you know nothing about wars. If Greece enters a war with Turkey, we are confident we in Cyprus will contain Turkey to it's current position for at least a month.And that's the very minimum we can do. Today is not 1974. :wink:

Don't forget it's not only our resources that will go to Egypt. Israel's too. Actually Israel is more in favor of the East Med project...
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Re: Greece+Cyprus will eventually save the Euro+the EU

Postby Kikapu » Tue Jan 18, 2022 11:02 pm

Lordo wrote:
Anybody have any details how much will be left after the energy company draws the gas from the well?


Most probably 60%-40% in the favour of the oil companies. After transporting and storage of the gas, Cyprus probably will end up about 20%. Not too bad with no risk. Easy cash/gas and maybe even oil too. :wink:
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Re: Greece+Cyprus will eventually save the Euro+the EU

Postby Pyrpolizer » Tue Jan 18, 2022 11:05 pm

Lordo wrote:If it has not been 10 years it certainly feels that long. No drilling, no platforms for extraction, no plant to recieve the resourses and no pipeline. I guess to much pleaure in moucho activity.


So in your opinion Israel is also having too much pleasure from moucho activities, or it is shit scared of Turkey. Which of the 2 ? 8)
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Re: Greece+Cyprus will eventually save the Euro+the EU

Postby Pyrpolizer » Tue Jan 18, 2022 11:23 pm

Kikapu wrote:
Lordo wrote:
Anybody have any details how much will be left after the energy company draws the gas from the well?


Most probably 60%-40% in the favour of the oil companies. After transporting and storage of the gas, Cyprus probably will end up about 20%. Not too bad with no risk. Easy cash/gas and maybe even oil too. :wink:


From what I heard it's the other way round. Then the oil companies asked for a raise to 45-55.That concerns the share of the product. Cyprus has no other obligation towards the expenses of the oil companies, either past or future.In reality so far the oil companies were paying the Govnt to get rights. Extraction is actually ready to begin anytime. The big problem is how to get it ready for the markets. The only sure thing is that we have to combine the resources of Cyprus+Egypt+Israel.
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