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The DOCUMENTARY "MEMORIES"

Postby halil » Fri Aug 24, 2012 11:00 pm

he DOCUMENTARY "MEMORIES" will be presented in DALI on Tuesday 28 AUGUST at 8.30PM at SYNIKISMOS PARK.
The Story:
The book "Missing 1974" by Panikos Neokleous was published in 2008 where soldiers described their experiences in the 1974 war. One of the witnesses was YIANNIS MARATHEFTIS who was injured in the head but managed to survive.
When in 2009 the book was translated in Turkish, the Turkish Cypriot FETCHI AKINNTZI has realised that he was the one who shot YIANNIS and for 35 years he considered him dead.
FETCHI called the author, the meeting of the two men was arranged and the fighters at war became BEST FRIENDS & FIGHTERS for PEACE.
This year they made the Documentary "MEMORIES" planning to circulate their message to the whole world, that in a war the only ones who gain are those selling the guns.
The Cypriot people can live together in PEACE.

Yiannis , Fecthi & the Author will be there to answer any questions.

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Re: The DOCUMENTARY "MEMORIES"

Postby repulsewarrior » Sat Aug 25, 2012 2:54 am

...i thank you, halil

...wait for it, someone will call them traitors because once again people choose Humanity above their "Turkishness" of "Greekness".

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Re: The DOCUMENTARY "MEMORIES"

Postby halil » Sat Aug 25, 2012 7:26 am

repulsewarrior wrote:...i thank you, halil

...wait for it, someone will call them traitors because once again people choose Humanity above their "Turkishness" of "Greekness".

Freedom for Cyprus, Freedom for Cypriots too.


There is no freedom ...specially for the TC voices even in this forum....they are hiding this kind of topics....u must only blame one side all the time...by blaming one side always resulting negative reactions because we all know the Cyprus problem is not the fault of the one-side....the important thing is to understand your mistake....to question past mistakes and to see the truth....and to show our kids brotherhood and peace....to love each other and have a respect to all nations. You might have a fight at past....this fight must not seed the hate forever...from the past and fight we must get our lessons.... :!:
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Re: The DOCUMENTARY "MEMORIES"

Postby Piratis » Sat Aug 25, 2012 12:04 pm

Halil, the Turkish side has the biggest share of responsibility for the problems of Cyprus, and that is a fact.

Les take things from the beginning until today:

1570 - 1878: The Turks invade Cyprus in 1570, butcher 10s of thousands of Cypriots and proceed to occupy Cyprus until 1878, treating the native Cypriot population as second category people with no rights. Here we have 308 years where the Turks are the sole cause of problems in Cyprus, unless you want to blame the native Cypriots because they were invaded by the Turks.

1958 - 1968: The Cypriot population fights for freedom and self-determination from the foreign British colonialists. The Turkish minority sides with the foreign Imperialists and attacks the majority, committing massacres against innocent people and burning down homes and shops of unarmed civilians. The Greek Cypriots respond and Turkish Cypriots have casualties as well. Here we have a decade of inter-communal conflict which was initiated by Turkish Cypriots. The Greek Cypriots responded, so you can say they are also at fault, but obviously the ones who initiated the conflict (TCs) have far more share of responsibility for this period.

1974 - today: Turkey uses a coup as an excuse (even though not a single TC was harmed by it), invades Cyprus, kills thousands of people, ethnically cleanses 100s of thousands and proceeds to illegally occupy our lands until today. These are 38 years were the Turkish side is solely responsible for the problems of Cyprus, since the Turks insist on crimes and illegalities, violating the human rights of the Cypriot people.

Today - future: The Greek Cypriots are ready to forgive the Turkish Cypriots and what Greek Cypriots want for Cyprus is to become a normal democratic state where the human rights of all Cypriots are respected. What the Turkish side wants is legalization of ethnic cleansing, forced segregation and racist discriminations, in other words the same things that they have done in Cyprus since the first day they set their foot on this island and which are the primary cause of problems.

Therefore Halil stop trying to equate the share of responsibility, it is not equal at all. Still, we do not demand that you should be punished for the harm you have caused to us in the past and you continue to cause to us now. On the other hand you are trying to distort history and try to justify your unfair demands.

Even if the share of responsibility for the Cyprus problem was 50%-50%, how would that justify your demands that the Turkish side should be rewarded while the Greek side should be punished?

The lesson that you should learn is that things such as racist discriminations and ethnic cleansing are bad things that cause problems, and finally allow Cyprus to be a normal democratic state like all other in EU. Unfortunately you want to repeat all the same mistakes, with racist discriminations and human rights violations that created the Cyprus Problem.
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Re: The DOCUMENTARY "MEMORIES"

Postby MR-from-NG » Sat Aug 25, 2012 6:18 pm

Piratis wrote:Halil, the Turkish side has the biggest share of responsibility for the problems of Cyprus, and that is a fact.

Les take things from the beginning until today:

1570 - 1878: The Turks invade Cyprus in 1570, butcher 10s of thousands of Cypriots and proceed to occupy Cyprus until 1878, treating the native Cypriot population as second category people with no rights. Here we have 308 years where the Turks are the sole cause of problems in Cyprus, unless you want to blame the native Cypriots because they were invaded by the Turks.

1958 - 1968: The Cypriot population fights for freedom and self-determination from the foreign British colonialists. The Turkish minority sides with the foreign Imperialists and attacks the majority, committing massacres against innocent people and burning down homes and shops of unarmed civilians. The Greek Cypriots respond and Turkish Cypriots have casualties as well. Here we have a decade of inter-communal conflict which was initiated by Turkish Cypriots. The Greek Cypriots responded, so you can say they are also at fault, but obviously the ones who initiated the conflict (TCs) have far more share of responsibility for this period.

1974 - today: Turkey uses a coup as an excuse (even though not a single TC was harmed by it), invades Cyprus, kills thousands of people, ethnically cleanses 100s of thousands and proceeds to illegally occupy our lands until today. These are 38 years were the Turkish side is solely responsible for the problems of Cyprus, since the Turks insist on crimes and illegalities, violating the human rights of the Cypriot people.

Today - future: The Greek Cypriots are ready to forgive the Turkish Cypriots and what Greek Cypriots want for Cyprus is to become a normal democratic state where the human rights of all Cypriots are respected. What the Turkish side wants is legalization of ethnic cleansing, forced segregation and racist discriminations, in other words the same things that they have done in Cyprus since the first day they set their foot on this island and which are the primary cause of problems.

Therefore Halil stop trying to equate the share of responsibility, it is not equal at all. Still, we do not demand that you should be punished for the harm you have caused to us in the past and you continue to cause to us now. On the other hand you are trying to distort history and try to justify your unfair demands.

Even if the share of responsibility for the Cyprus problem was 50%-50%, how would that justify your demands that the Turkish side should be rewarded while the Greek side should be punished?

The lesson that you should learn is that things such as racist discriminations and ethnic cleansing are bad things that cause problems, and finally allow Cyprus to be a normal democratic state like all other in EU. Unfortunately you want to repeat all the same mistakes, with racist discriminations and human rights violations that created the Cyprus Problem.


I stopped reading after that. I'm convinced this man is sick in the head :D
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Re: The DOCUMENTARY "MEMORIES"

Postby ZoC » Sat Aug 25, 2012 9:33 pm

MR-from-NG wrote:
Piratis wrote:
1570 - 1878: The Turks invade Cyprus in 1570


I stopped reading after that. I'm convinced this man is sick in the head :D


i must be missing something here... why the f*ck does this statement make piratis sick in the head?

r u splitting hairs 'cos they were 'ottomans' & not 'turks'?

please put me straight 'cos otherwise i'm gonna conclude u're just another labotomised latriner.
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Re: The DOCUMENTARY "MEMORIES"

Postby Piratis » Tue Aug 28, 2012 3:35 pm

ZoC, his problem is that I started from the beginning, when the Turks first started their atrocities against Cyprus.

If I left the past behind, and talked just about the current situation, where 1/3rd of Cyprus is illegally occupied by Turkish troops, with 100s of thousands of innocent people kept out of their homes and properties by force, then "MR-from-NG" would still have a problem.

The only way that "MR-from-NG" would be satisfied is the usual Turkish propaganda way:
(1) Erase the whole history of Cyprus until 1963 and forget about the 10s of thousands of people the Turks have butchered and the suffering they caused to Cyprus
(2) Take one decade between 1963-1974 and distort it to the max to present TCs as the innocent victims - never forget a single line of this one sided version of manufactured history
(3) Use the distorted version of history for that one decade to excuse many more decades (and if they can, centuries) of suffering to the Cypriot people.

In other words they can not stand the whole truth, because the whole truth shows that it is the Turks who started the problem in Cyprus, it is them who have caused to us far more casualties and far more suffering for far longer periods of time, and it is them who are trying to excuse yet more crimes and illegalities against the Cypriot people.
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Re: The DOCUMENTARY "MEMORIES"

Postby kimon07 » Tue Aug 28, 2012 9:39 pm

halil wrote:.......The Cypriot people can live together in PEACE......


How very true. Any ideas of how to accomplish that? Do you think the present partition and the presence of the Turkish army and of the Turkish settlers will help? Or do you think time has come for you to do something about that?
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Re: The DOCUMENTARY "MEMORIES"

Postby Viewpoint » Wed Aug 29, 2012 7:31 am

kimon07 wrote:
halil wrote:.......The Cypriot people can live together in PEACE......


How very true. Any ideas of how to accomplish that? Do you think the present partition and the presence of the Turkish army and of the Turkish settlers will help? Or do you think time has come for you to do something about that?


Why should we? when you have not chnaged one iota ad dstill demand we become a minority in our own country and do not see us as equal partners.
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Re: The DOCUMENTARY "MEMORIES"

Postby Viewpoint » Wed Aug 29, 2012 7:39 am

Piratis wrote:Halil, the Turkish side has the biggest share of responsibility for the problems of Cyprus, and that is a fact.

Les take things from the beginning until today:

1570 - 1878: The Turks invade Cyprus in 1570, butcher 10s of thousands of Cypriots and proceed to occupy Cyprus until 1878, treating the native Cypriot population as second category people with no rights. Here we have 308 years where the Turks are the sole cause of problems in Cyprus, unless you want to blame the native Cypriots because they were invaded by the Turks.

Hello you should really gen up on history this was happening all over the world, wars happened land was taken and empires were built, get over it.

1958 - 1968: The Cypriot population fights for freedom and self-determination from the foreign British colonialists. The Turkish minority sides with the foreign Imperialists and attacks the majority, committing massacres against innocent people and burning down homes and shops of unarmed civilians. The Greek Cypriots respond and Turkish Cypriots have casualties as well. Here we have a decade of inter-communal conflict which was initiated by Turkish Cypriots. The Greek Cypriots responded, so you can say they are also at fault, but obviously the ones who initiated the conflict (TCs) have far more share of responsibility for this period.

You wanted to sell us out to the Greeks what did you expect us to do sit back and allow you to annihalate us? we fought back with everything we could find.

1974 - today: Turkey uses a coup as an excuse (even though not a single TC was harmed by it), invades Cyprus, kills thousands of people, ethnically cleanses 100s of thousands and proceeds to illegally occupy our lands until today. These are 38 years were the Turkish side is solely responsible for the problems of Cyprus, since the Turks insist on crimes and illegalities, violating the human rights of the Cypriot people.

The result of your own actions no enosis dream no division.

Today - future: The Greek Cypriots are ready to forgive the Turkish Cypriots and what Greek Cypriots want for Cyprus is to become a normal democratic state where the human rights of all Cypriots are respected. What the Turkish side wants is legalization of ethnic cleansing, forced segregation and racist discriminations, in other words the same things that they have done in Cyprus since the first day they set their foot on this island and which are the primary cause of problems.

Only if we accept minority rights in our country ruled by GCs no thanks we would rather become part of Turkey.

Therefore Halil stop trying to equate the share of responsibility, it is not equal at all. Still, we do not demand that you should be punished for the harm you have caused to us in the past and you continue to cause to us now. On the other hand you are trying to distort history and try to justify your unfair demands.

The distortion is in your head once you understand what sharing equally is you will then grasp that we are not just minority to be pushed to one side but partners that have to be treated as your equals.

Even if the share of responsibility for the Cyprus problem was 50%-50%, how would that justify your demands that the Turkish side should be rewarded while the Greek side should be punished?

How so? why and how would you be punished?

The lesson that you should learn is that things such as racist discriminations and ethnic cleansing are bad things that cause problems, and finally allow Cyprus to be a normal democratic state like all other in EU. Unfortunately you want to repeat all the same mistakes, with racist discriminations and human rights violations that created the Cyprus Problem.

Thats where you are wrong we want BBF as supported by the UN and EU, you are the ones rejecting this ideology as it would not allow you the freedom to do as you wish.

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