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[kimon07]

Do you have any idea where that pole (on which the flag was hoisted) came from????????

Your gollos ?

Not even I, the forum’s most infamous abuser could better that!

Nevertheless, you both spell greek in the same rotten way.

[kimon07]

No chance then of the Spartans contributing to the Struggle for CY Liberation by 28 October 2040 rather than posting these rubbish threads.

Where were you all these years my dear?

A whole division of them, 10,000 strong, was sent to Cyprus in 1964 by prime minister George Papandreou (the grand father of the American-Lithuanian-Polish grand son who ruined Greece in 2009-10). In 1967, Makarios, AKEL and Lyssarides offered to the Junta of G. Papadopoulos all the excuses it was asking for to withdraw them.

And again, in 1974, more than 100 of them were killed or went missing defending Nicosia (ELDYK).

Another 350 "Spartan" paratroopers (most of them Cretans, actually) were flown in to the Nicosia airport the second night of the invasion and held it against a Turkish brigade till it was handed over to the UN. More than 40 of them "Spartans" were killed by friendly (GC) a/a fire.

And many more were being transported to Cyprus on four Greek passenger ships, but were intercepted and forced back by the Sixth Fleet (three destroyers and one submarine). I know. Cause I was on board the first of the Greek passenger ships (F/B Rethymnon) with 550 more GC volunteers (students mostly) and more than 500 "Spartan" troops of "KEBOP" (KENTRO EKPEDEFSEOS BAREON OPLON PEZIKOU = TRAINING CENTER OF INFANTRY HEAVY WEAPONS).

Now you can go to bed and sleep tight. And do watch the Excalibur. It's a fantastic paramythi. Much better than the ridiculous "300" mockery cartoon.

[kimon07]

Do you have any idea where that pole (on which the flag was hoisted) came from????????

I guess you know the answer. It's from the sunken Turkish battleship Fethi Bulent.

Τον Οκτώβριο του 1912, δέκα μέρες πριν την είσοδο του Ελληνικού στρατού στη Θεσσαλονίκη, ο κυβερνήτης τορπιλοβόλου τότε Ν. Βότσης, μπήκε στο λιμάνι του Καραμπουρνού και βύθισε ένα παροπλισμένο τουρκικό θωρηκτό. Ο ιστός της σημαίας που βρίσκεται στην κορυφή του Λευκού Πύργου, προέρχεται από το τουρκικό θωρηκτό «Φετχί Mπουλέντ».

Not at all "παροπλισμένο". It was in commission and with its guns it was protecting the entrance of the port and was providing supporting fire to the Ottoman land forces defending the city.

[bill cobbett]

No chance then of the Spartans contributing to the Struggle for CY Liberation by 28 October 2040 rather than posting these rubbish threads.

Where were you all these years my dear?

A whole division of them, 10,000 strong, was sent to Cyprus in 1964 by prime minister George Papandreou (the grand father of the American-Lithuanian-Polish grand son who ruined Greece in 2009-10). In 1967, Makarios, AKEL and Lyssarides offered to the Junta of G. Papadopoulos all the excuses it was asking for to withdraw them.

And again, in 1974, more than 100 of them were killed or went missing defending Nicosia (ELDYK).

Another 350 "Spartan" paratroopers (most of them Cretans, actually) were flown in to the Nicosia airport the second night of the invasion and held it against a Turkish brigade till it was handed over to the UN. More than 40 of them "Spartans" were killed by friendly (GC) a/a fire.

And many more were being transported to Cyprus on four Greek passenger ships, but were intercepted and forced back by the Sixth Fleet (three destroyers and one submarine). I know. Cause I was on board the first of the Greek passenger ships (F/B Rethymnon) with 550 more GC volunteers (students mostly) and more than 500 "Spartan" troops of "KEBOP" (KENTRO EKPEDEFSEOS BAREON OPLON PEZIKOU = TRAINING CENTER OF INFANTRY HEAVY WEAPONS).

Now you can go to bed and sleep tight. And do watch the Excalibur. It's a fantastic paramythi. Much better than the ridiculous "300" mockery cartoon.

So let's get this right Kimon... Turkey manages to put a 40,000 strong army ashore and the massive achievement of the Spartan Guarantors (one for which CYs are expected to be grateful) is a half-hearted attempt to send a few cruise-ships part-way to CY and to hand over NIC airport to the UN ... you couldn't make it up into a fictitious X-Box Game no matter how hard you tried.

You should go and talk to our CY NG boys, chaps who were so heavily traumatised by their experiences that they wouldn't talk for decades of what they endured, who were doing what they could in the Kyrenia Mountains to hold back Atilla, doing so when others had been ordered to fall back without putting up a fight, left to defend CY with next to no ammo or ammo that wouldn't fit the arms they carried and without the shore batteries that had mysteriously been withdrawn from their positions on the northern beaches ... and they'll tell you a very different story... one of BETRAYAL.

Back to your Make-Believe World Kimon.

[kimon07]

No chance then of the Spartans contributing to the Struggle for CY Liberation by 28 October 2040 rather than posting these rubbish threads.

Where were you all these years my dear?

A whole division of them, 10,000 strong, was sent to Cyprus in 1964 by prime minister George Papandreou (the grand father of the American-Lithuanian-Polish grand son who ruined Greece in 2009-10). In 1967, Makarios, AKEL and Lyssarides offered to the Junta of G. Papadopoulos all the excuses it was asking for to withdraw them.

And again, in 1974, more than 100 of them were killed or went missing defending Nicosia (ELDYK).

Another 350 "Spartan" paratroopers (most of them Cretans, actually) were flown in to the Nicosia airport the second night of the invasion and held it against a Turkish brigade till it was handed over to the UN. More than 40 of them "Spartans" were killed by friendly (GC) a/a fire.

And many more were being transported to Cyprus on four Greek passenger ships, but were intercepted and forced back by the Sixth Fleet (three destroyers and one submarine). I know. Cause I was on board the first of the Greek passenger ships (F/B Rethymnon) with 550 more GC volunteers (students mostly) and more than 500 "Spartan" troops of "KEBOP" (KENTRO EKPEDEFSEOS BAREON OPLON PEZIKOU = TRAINING CENTER OF INFANTRY HEAVY WEAPONS).

Now you can go to bed and sleep tight. And do watch the Excalibur. It's a fantastic paramythi. Much better than the ridiculous "300" mockery cartoon.

So let's get this right Kimon... Turkey manages to put a 40,000 strong army ashore and the massive achievement of the Spartan Guarantors (one for which CYs are expected to be grateful) is a half-hearted attempt to send a few cruise-ships part-way to CY and to hand over NIC airport to the UN ... you couldn't make it up into a fictitious X-Box Game no matter how hard you tried.

You should go and talk to our CY NG boys, chaps who were so heavily traumatised by their experiences that they wouldn't talk for decades of what they endured, who were doing what they could in the Kyrenia Mountains to hold back Atilla, doing so when others had been ordered to fall back without putting up a fight, left to defend CY with next to no ammo or ammo that wouldn't fit the arms they carried and without the shore batteries that had mysteriously been withdrawn from their positions on the northern beaches ... and they'll tell you a very different story... one of BETRAYAL.

Don't Y O U talk to me about guarantor powers.

BETRAYAL? 100%. By those who (MAKARIOS & Co) turned the coast defences, machine gun posts and artillery posts into luxury hotels (Mare Monte)and who did their best to kick the Greek division out of Cyprus in 1967 and those who ordered the Geek air force and the Greek submarines to stand down and not strike. You know who? You know why the "Cyprus File" never opens? Why the facts are known but not the reasons behind them? Because the bones of Makarios and Karamanlis will be dug up and thrown to the dogs if it does. Because T H E T W O O F T H E M saw the Tuirkish invasion as their chance to come back to power. And for this reason they sided with the Americans and the British and ORDERED (Karamanlis did) the chiefs of the Greek armed forces to cancel the operations of the Greek navy and air force. That is why the treasonous chiefs who cancelled the operations, instead of being shot, were promoted and discharged with honors by Karamanlis as soon as he came back to office.

As for O U R (not yours) CY NG boys on the "Kyrenia Mountains" i.e., the 31st, 32nd and 33d commando units, trust me. Y O U can N O T tell ME anything new about them and what they went through.

[kimon07]

You should go and talk to our CY NG boys, chaps who were so heavily traumatised by their experiences that they wouldn't talk for decades of what they endured, who were doing what they could in the Kyrenia Mountains to hold back Atilla, doing so when others had been ordered to fall back without putting up a fight, left to defend CY with next to no ammo or ammo that wouldn't fit the arms they carried and without the shore batteries that had mysteriously been withdrawn from their positions on the northern beaches ... and they'll tell you a very different story... one of BETRAYAL.

Oh and BTW. Contrary to what your "CY NG chaps" told you, the coastal batteries were not "mysteriously withdrawn from their positions". They were never placed there on time. When it was attempted to be sent to their positions in the middle of the second day of the invasion, they were destroyed by the Turkish air force on the way, from Myrtou to Kyrenia.

And BTW and speacking of betrayals. Since 1967 (After Grivas and the Greek Division had been withdrawn) the NG did not conduct any anti-invasion drills while the coastal fortifications, where the artillery batteries and the machine guns were supposed to be positioned, were left to rot and collapse (meaning those which were not demolished so that hotels would be built on top of them).

And BTW. This thread is about 28 October 1940 and the first victory against the Fascist-Nazi axis offered to the world by Greece. Why are you bringing up off topic issues related to the CY problem? Are you trying to push the admin into locking this thread? Does the subject of this topic bother you so much?

[denizaksulu]

Pity that I did not understand the posts written in Greek, but I was under the impression that the Kyrenia defences were weakened by the withdrawal of NG force and weaponry to fight the coupists elsewhere. Interesting views in the troubled history of Cyprus.

[wyoming cowboy]

not to go too off topic ..... they were Deniz withdrawn to paphos, limassol and other parts of Cyprus leaving the northern shores undefended....the garrison in Lambousa during the invasion was completely empty the week of the coup...for instance...and the whole northern coast of Kyrenia left undefended..

and to add I wouldnt consider the junta officers in any way Greeks, they were offshoots of the Greek civil war who didnt think twice about killing their own in the mountains of northern Greece..they betrayed Hellinismo in Greece and in Cyprus.

@kimon...i agree with you about Eldyk and other mainland forces fighting for Cyprus, but how long did it take for the ROC and the government of Greece to awknowledge them as heroes who fought and died for Cyprus? (just recently)as a matter of fact.


Makarios' problem is that he listened to AKEL's Papaioannou concerning an American base and a foreign policy of nonalignment. To this day those policies still resonate in Cyprus today.

[kurupetos]

This topic is about 28 October 1940. If you want to discuss the 1974 events go ahead and start another topic.