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Re: 28 October 1940

Postby yialousa1971 » Sat Nov 03, 2012 10:05 pm

kurupetos wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:^^^^ Whata loada Pollocks...!!! ...^^^

C'mon now. You enjoyed every bit of it. :wink:


He's a cheeky little Goblin but not for long once I find out where his nest is. :mrgreen: :lol:
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Re: 28 October 1940

Postby Cap » Sat Nov 03, 2012 10:07 pm

:lol:

I enjoy a bit of Kuru sarcasm sometimes.
Also enjoy Bills '...was last seen..' piss takes.
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Re: 28 October 1940

Postby kurupetos » Sun Nov 04, 2012 3:04 pm

yialousa1971 wrote:
kurupetos wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:^^^^ Whata loada Pollocks...!!! ...^^^

C'mon now. You enjoyed every bit of it. :wink:


He's a cheeky little Goblin but not for long once I find out where his nest is. :mrgreen: :lol:

Cut his tail. :mrgreen:
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Re: 28 October 1940

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Sun Nov 04, 2012 3:13 pm

This heroic response by Greece should serve as a constant reminder, a paradigm, for how we should live our lives on a daily basis.
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Re: 28 October 1940

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Mon Oct 27, 2014 11:03 pm

An interesting reminder from HALC of what Franklin Delano Roosevelt said about Greece and their famous, exemplary reaction to the real fascists - the Germano-Italians - sadly, still true today:

"Today Greece is a land of desolation, stripped bare of all the essentials of living. Thousands have died of hunger. Thousands are dying still. Today Greece is a gaunt and haggard sample of what the Axis is so willing, so eager, to hand to all the world. But within their own land and on other shores, the Greeks are fighting on. They will never be defeated, and the day will come when liberated Greeks will again maintain their own government within the shadow of the Acropolis and the Parthenon. As an expression of our hopes and our prayers that this day may be hastened, the government and the people of the United States offer a token of our warm friendship for the government and the people of Greece. "


Here is the full text by Roosevelt, a “Letter Praising the Heroism of the Greeks,” sent to the Ambassador of Greece in Washington on October 29, 1942:

My dear Mr. Ambassador:

On the early morning of October 28, 1940, the Fascist aggressors handed an ultimatum to Greece. The challenge was hurled back without a moment’s hesitation. This was what might have been expected from a gallant and courageous people devoted to their homeland. You commemorate tonight the second anniversary of the beginning of the total resistance of the Greek people to totalitarian warfare.

More significant, even, than the initial reply to the challenge is the fact that Greece has continued to fight, with every means at its command. When the Greek mainland was overrun, the resistance was carried on from the islands. When the islands fell, resistance continued from Africa, from the seas, from anywhere the aggressor could be met.

To those who prefer to compromise, to follow a course of expediency, or to appease, or to count the cost, I say that Greece has set the example which every one of us must follow until the despoilers of freedom everywhere have been brought to their just doom.


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Re: 28 October 1940

Postby Paphitis » Tue Oct 28, 2014 12:47 am

GreekIslandGirl wrote:An interesting reminder from HALC of what Franklin Delano Roosevelt said about Greece and their famous, exemplary reaction to the real fascists - the Germano-Italians - sadly, still true today:

"Today Greece is a land of desolation, stripped bare of all the essentials of living. Thousands have died of hunger. Thousands are dying still. Today Greece is a gaunt and haggard sample of what the Axis is so willing, so eager, to hand to all the world. But within their own land and on other shores, the Greeks are fighting on. They will never be defeated, and the day will come when liberated Greeks will again maintain their own government within the shadow of the Acropolis and the Parthenon. As an expression of our hopes and our prayers that this day may be hastened, the government and the people of the United States offer a token of our warm friendship for the government and the people of Greece. "


Here is the full text by Roosevelt, a “Letter Praising the Heroism of the Greeks,” sent to the Ambassador of Greece in Washington on October 29, 1942:

My dear Mr. Ambassador:

On the early morning of October 28, 1940, the Fascist aggressors handed an ultimatum to Greece. The challenge was hurled back without a moment’s hesitation. This was what might have been expected from a gallant and courageous people devoted to their homeland. You commemorate tonight the second anniversary of the beginning of the total resistance of the Greek people to totalitarian warfare.

More significant, even, than the initial reply to the challenge is the fact that Greece has continued to fight, with every means at its command. When the Greek mainland was overrun, the resistance was carried on from the islands. When the islands fell, resistance continued from Africa, from the seas, from anywhere the aggressor could be met.

To those who prefer to compromise, to follow a course of expediency, or to appease, or to count the cost, I say that Greece has set the example which every one of us must follow until the despoilers of freedom everywhere have been brought to their just doom.


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Very good Oracle and agreed 100%

I suppose that this very same spirit will see Greece send in the Navy to watch over the illegal activities of the Turkish Barbaros and its 2 escorting Navy Frigates!

Any time now will be good! I bet they are on their way as we speak!
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Re: 28 October 1940

Postby kurupetos » Tue Oct 28, 2014 12:54 am

Nice one, GIG. But why do we need a foreigner of questionable ancestry to praise us? :?
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Re: 28 October 1940

Postby Paphitis » Tue Oct 28, 2014 1:09 am

kurupetos wrote:Nice one, GIG. But why do we need a foreigner of questionable ancestry to praise us? :?


Kuru, do you have an ETA for the Hellenic Navy in the Cyprus EEZ? They sure as hell are needed!

Shouldn't be too far away right?
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Re: 28 October 1940

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Tue Oct 28, 2014 10:10 am

kurupetos wrote:Nice one, GIG. But why do we need a foreigner of questionable ancestry to praise us? :?


I agree, praise is superfluous. Earning praise is not the reason that Greece behaved valiantly. Roosevelt simply allied himself with the goodness of Greece because in so doing he validated his own standing. That's fine. Greece is great enough to raise people's morality by its constant guidance through honourable conduct.
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Re: 28 October 1940

Postby Paphitis » Tue Oct 28, 2014 11:47 am

GreekIslandGirl wrote:
kurupetos wrote:Nice one, GIG. But why do we need a foreigner of questionable ancestry to praise us? :?


I agree, praise is superfluous. Earning praise is not the reason that Greece behaved valiantly. Roosevelt simply allied himself with the goodness of Greece because in so doing he validated his own standing. That's fine. Greece is great enough to raise people's morality by its constant guidance through honourable conduct.


Greece just needed encouragement but certainly it was not the only country to be valiant.

You missed my question. I am sure Greece today will look at 1940 as an example and derive some strength to send some Frigates to confront the Turks in the Cyprus EEZ.

It can't afford not to otherwise the Turks are gonna start behaving erratically around Lesbos and Imia!

I tried looking at Marine Traffic, but there are no Greek navy ships in the area, but I am sure they must be on their way.

The Turks have been at it for a while. Any ideas if they are on their way? Surely they must be.

If there is no pushback, the Turks will just keep going. When confronted, the issue becomes news and everyone gets involved, including the Anericans who will tell Turkey to leave the area.

The Greeks surely understand this.
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