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Postby kurupetos » Fri Sep 23, 2016 11:57 am

repulsewarrior wrote:https://www.architectsjournal.co.uk/competitions/new-contest-launched-for-archaeological-museum-in-nicosia/10012019.article

Contest, a new building for Cyprus' Archaeological Heritence.

We have been expecting this to materialize since the 90s... :evil:
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Re: Archeology/History Thread

Postby yialousa1971 » Fri Oct 14, 2016 8:53 pm

Ancient Greeks may have built China's famous Terracotta Army – 1,500 years before Marco Polo

Ancient Greeks artists could have travelled to China 1,500 years before Marco Polo’s historic trip to the east and helped design the famous Terracotta Army, according to new research.

The startling claim is based on two key pieces of evidence: European DNA discovered at sites in China’s Xinjiang province from the time of the First Emperor in the Third Century BC and the sudden appearance of life-sized statues.

Before this time, depictions of humans in China are thought to have been figurines of up to about 20cm.

But 8,000 extraordinarily life-like terracotta figures were found buried close to the massive tomb of China’s First Emperor, Qin Shi Huang, who unified the country in 221BC.

The theory – outlined in a documentary, The Greatest Tomb on Earth: Secrets of Ancient China, to be shown on BBC Two on Sunday – is that Shi Huang and Chinese artists may have been influenced by the arrival of Greek statues in central Asia in the century following Alexander the Great, who led an army into India.

But the researchers also speculated that Greek artists could have been present when the soldiers of the Terracotta Army were made.

One of the team, Professor Lukas Nickel, chair of Asian art history at Vienna University, said: “I imagine that a Greek sculptor may have been at the site to train the locals.”

Other evidence of connections to Greece came from a number of exquisite bronze figurines of birds excavated from the tomb site. These were made with a lost wax technique known in Ancient Greece and Egypt.

There was a breakthrough in sculpture particularly in ancient Athens at about the time when the city became a democracy in the 5th century BC.

Previously, human figures have been stiff and stylised representations, but the figures carved on the Parthenon temple were so life-like it appeared the artists had turned stone into flesh.

Their work has rarely been bettered – the techniques used were largely forgotten until they were revived in the Renaissance when artists carved statues in the Ancient Greek style, most notably Michelangelo’s David.

Dr Li Xiuzhen, senior archaeologist at the tomb’s museum, agreed that it appeared Ancient Greece had influenced events in China more than 7,000km.

“We now have evidence that close contact existed between the First Emperor’s China and the West before the formal opening of the Silk Road,” the expert said.

“This is far earlier than we formerly thought.

“We now think the Terracotta Army, the acrobats and the bronze sculptures found on site have been inspired by ancient Greek sculptures and art.”

And Professor Zhang Weixing, lead archaeologist at the tomb site, said: “The archaeological work undertaken here recently is more important than anything in the last 40 years.

“By systematically examining the First Emperor’s main tomb and subsidiary burials we have discovered something more important even than the Terracotta Army.”

The mitochondrial DNA samples revealed Europeans had settled down in China and died there during the time of the First Emperor and even before then.

Hamish Mykura, of the National Geographic Channel, which made the documentary with the BBC, said: “The scope of these archaeological finds and what they mean for world history are astonishing.

“The new revelation that two of the world’s ancient super powers may have been in contact is a vital reminder today of the need for intercultural communication on a global scale.”

And BBC presenter Dan Snow said: “I hope audiences will find the new evidence as astonishing and thought-provoking as I did.

“It is extraordinary to think that history as we know it is changeable.”

The Terracotta Army – more than 8,000 figures buried less than a mile from the tomb – was found in 1974, but new geophysical survey evidence suggests the complex is much bigger than previously thought at 200 times the size of Egypt’s Valley of the Kings.

And the bones of 10 young women buried with precious jewellery made of gold and pearls have been found at the site.

Disturbingly, it is thought these women were the First Emperor’s concubines, who were murdered and mutilated as part of his funeral. There are 99 similar graves.

And the skull of a very high-ranking male was found with a crossbow bolt embedded in the back of the skull.

It is thought the bolt was fired at close range, suggesting the man was executed.

Chinese archaeologists believe it could be the remains of Prince Fu Su, the First Emperor’s eldest son, who was murdered along with his siblings by their younger brother Prince Hu Hai following their father’s death. The grave contains a total of seven different bodies, all of whom had been killed.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/scien ... 57606.html
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Re: Archeology/History Thread

Postby Get Real! » Fri Oct 14, 2016 9:43 pm

yialousa1971 wrote:Ancient Greeks may have built China's famous Terracotta Army – 1,500 years before Marco Polo

And how many milliseconds did it take you to swallow that tall tale whole like a dustbin? :lol:

They could’ve said… “Ancient Greeks landed first on the moon” and I’ll bet you would’ve though it worthy of further thought and investigation! :roll:

That’s how fucked in the head you are. :lol:
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Re: Archeology/History Thread

Postby Lordo » Fri Oct 14, 2016 9:55 pm

what about america did the greeks not land there first. at least erdogan claim is based on fact. the native americans who were there first have some 50 common words as the terggs and also the same beliefs as the ancient terggs before they were islamified
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Re: Archeology/History Thread

Postby yialousa1971 » Fri Oct 14, 2016 10:07 pm

Get Real! wrote:
yialousa1971 wrote:Ancient Greeks may have built China's famous Terracotta Army – 1,500 years before Marco Polo

And how many milliseconds did it take you to swallow that tall tale whole like a dustbin? :lol:

They could’ve said… “Ancient Greeks landed first on the moon” and I’ll bet you would’ve though it worthy of further thought and investigation! :roll:

That’s how fucked in the head you are. :lol:


What ever happens you're still my pet Chicken. :roll: :mrgreen:
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Re: Archeology/History Thread

Postby yialousa1971 » Fri Oct 14, 2016 10:07 pm

Get Real! wrote:
yialousa1971 wrote:Ancient Greeks may have built China's famous Terracotta Army – 1,500 years before Marco Polo

And how many milliseconds did it take you to swallow that tall tale whole like a dustbin? :lol:

They could’ve said… “Ancient Greeks landed first on the moon” and I’ll bet you would’ve though it worthy of further thought and investigation! :roll:

That’s how fucked in the head you are. :lol:


What ever happens you're still my pet Chicken. :roll: :mrgreen:
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Re: Archeology/History Thread

Postby Get Real! » Fri Oct 14, 2016 10:22 pm

yialousa1971 wrote:What ever happens you're still my pet Chicken. :roll: :mrgreen:

Yeah Ok, I’m down for all that kinky Greek stuff… :?
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Re: Archeology/History Thread

Postby yialousa1971 » Fri Oct 21, 2016 8:56 am

Get Real! wrote:
yialousa1971 wrote:What ever happens you're still my pet Chicken. :roll: :mrgreen:

Yeah Ok, I’m down for all that kinky Greek stuff… :?


This is a Chicken free thread from now on. :wink:
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Re: Archeology/History Thread

Postby kurupetos » Fri Oct 21, 2016 3:53 pm

Good! :mrgreen:
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Re: Archeology/History Thread

Postby repulsewarrior » Sat Dec 10, 2016 4:08 am

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/12/remarka ... ts/#disqus

Some 99 million years ago, a juvenile dinosaur got its feathery tail stuck in tree resin, a death trap for the small creature. But its misfortune is now giving scientists unique insight into feathered dinosaurs that prospered during the Cretaceous Period.

Researchers said on Thursday a chunk of amber – fossilized resin – spotted by a Chinese scientist in a market in Myitkyina, Myanmar, last year contained 1.4 inches (36 mm) of the tail of the dinosaur, complete with bones, flesh, skin and feathers. The dinosaur itself was no more than 6 inches (15 cm) long, about the size of a sparrow.


...interesting photo.
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