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No more free health services to TCs of "trnc" in the RoC!

Postby Kikapu » Thu Dec 06, 2012 10:58 pm

I guess this means instant recognition of the "trnc" now, which is what VP has been spouting for years should the RoC refuse any services to the TCs living in the "trnc"!

Debt-laden Greek Cyprus ends free health services to Turks of island

Starting from the first day of 2013, the Greek Cypriots will cease health services offered to Turkish Cypriot free of charge since 2003.

Over 50 million Euros worth services were presented the citizens of the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus (KKTC) during nine years starting from 2003. A yearly 5-6 million Euros were spent on the health services offered to the KKTC citizens. Since the Greek administration does not recognize the state of the KKTC, the state hospitals of the Greek Cyprus did not charge Turks who arrive from the north of the island for hospital costs. The Greek Cypriots will also ask more than 100,000 people from the south of the island to pay in exchange of the health services they receive.

http://www.todayszaman.com/news-300376- ... sland.html
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Re: No more free health services to TCs of "trnc" in the RoC

Postby Lordo » Fri Dec 07, 2012 12:07 am

Kikapu wrote:I guess this means instant recognition of the "trnc" now, which is what VP has been spouting for years should the RoC refuse any services to the TCs living in the "trnc"!

Debt-laden Greek Cyprus ends free health services to Turks of island

Starting from the first day of 2013, the Greek Cypriots will cease health services offered to Turkish Cypriot free of charge since 2003.

Over 50 million Euros worth services were presented the citizens of the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus (KKTC) during nine years starting from 2003. A yearly 5-6 million Euros were spent on the health services offered to the KKTC citizens. Since the Greek administration does not recognize the state of the KKTC, the state hospitals of the Greek Cyprus did not charge Turks who arrive from the north of the island for hospital costs. The Greek Cypriots will also ask more than 100,000 people from the south of the island to pay in exchange of the health services they receive.

http://www.todayszaman.com/news-300376- ... sland.html

interesting concept. the reason why tcs are entitled to free health care in the roc is because there earnings are below poverty level. now clearly not all tcs are below poverty level. the problem arrises becase the donkeys at the banana republic refuse to check the tax records and the earning levels of the tcs that visit the hospitals in the south. if they do not begin to check these records it is their own stupidity. if they then stop all tratment for tcs especially those deserving cases will make interesting court cases in the eu courts. naturally it will run into decades before resolved but it will cost millions. now you boys carry on paying the taxes you hear because it will needed in the future to pay the court bills and compensation.
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Re: No more free health services to TCs of "trnc" in the RoC

Postby Kikapu » Fri Dec 07, 2012 12:14 am

Lordo wrote:interesting concept. the reason why tcs are entitled to free health care in the roc is because there earnings are below poverty level. now clearly not all tcs are below poverty level. the problem arrises becase the donkeys at the banana republic refuse to check the tax records and the earning levels of the tcs that visit the hospitals in the south. if they do not begin to check these records it is their own stupidity. if they then stop all tratment for tcs especially those deserving cases will make interesting court cases in the eu courts. naturally it will run into decades before resolved but it will cost millions. now you boys carry on paying the taxes you hear because it will needed in the future to pay the court bills and compensation.


I think it is more the case of an occupying power which has the complete responsibility to the welfare of the people living under that occupation, therefore, don't look for the courts to get Turkey off the hook from paying ALL the needs of the people under her occupation.
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Re: No more free health services to TCs of "trnc" in the RoC

Postby Lordo » Fri Dec 07, 2012 12:45 am

you cant make it up as you go along mky friend. gcs earning th esame wages are also entitled to the same health care. people in the eu are taken care of no matter what race. to stop it for the tcs she will have to stop it for gcs in the same position. it takes balls to take such action. but as i said they probaply will do it because they could not see beyond their nose. for every million they save will cost them many fold in the courts for being racist.

interesting times ahead
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Re: No more free health services to TCs of "trnc" in the RoC

Postby bill cobbett » Fri Dec 07, 2012 1:23 am

Kikapu wrote:
I think it is more the case of an occupying power which has the complete responsibility to the welfare of the people living under that occupation, therefore, don't look for the courts to get Turkey off the hook from paying ALL the needs of the people under her occupation.


Yes, agree that it is the case that Turkey as Occupying Power has total responsibility for the welfare of people caught up the wrong side of the cease-fire line including their health care needs.

Bordo is as usual wrong in farting that the EU will hold the Republic liable, as back in 2004 when CY signed the EU Acquis it was a main point that as the situation in the Occupied Areas was out of its control it is exempt of responsibility.

Now, having said these things, it would still be nice if the Republic could come up with a system whereby adult CYs living directly under the Occupation and visiting the Free Areas for health care could pay a small fee in lieu of the usual health insurance contributions for consultations, treatments and prescriptions.
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Re: No more free health services to TCs of "trnc" in the RoC

Postby Lordo » Fri Dec 07, 2012 1:47 am

i would say blind leading the blind more likely.

fact. all eu citizens earning a living below poverty level ar entitled to free healthcare especially in their own country.

if you are after contributions swollow your pride and check on the level of earning if the millionaires who cross over and have free health carethen chatge them. mind you in the north all hospital care is free it is the medication people have to pay for depending on pay. but they are thankfull for the attention they recieve like all true cypriots. honest gov

responsibilty of the roc for her citizens do not end at green line.

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Re: No more free health services to TCs of "trnc" in the RoC

Postby bill cobbett » Fri Dec 07, 2012 2:29 am

Lordo wrote:i would say blind leading the blind more likely.

fact. all eu citizens earning a living below poverty level ar entitled to free healthcare especially in their own country.

if you are after contributions swollow your pride and check on the level of earning if the millionaires who cross over and have free health carethen chatge them. mind you in the north all hospital care is free it is the medication people have to pay for depending on pay. but they are thankfull for the attention they recieve like all true cypriots. honest gov

responsibilty of the roc for her citizens do not end at green line.

efaes yahni fasulyes bale bordises san don gharon bu don karapzin


Loada kafenion talk pollocks from Farto again...

Tell us which Regulation or Directive from the EU leads you to claim an EU-wide entitlement to free health-care.

Let me answer that for you... there ain't any...!!! The EU hasn't (yet!) involved itself in heath care leaving it to National Governments.

The Acquis is suspended in the Occupied Areas so again you have to be told that the Republic has no responsibility up there.
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Re: No more free health services to TCs of "trnc" in the RoC

Postby Nikitas » Fri Dec 07, 2012 3:50 am

If the GCs will have to pay for the health service, how can free medical care continue for TCs only? Another example of the TCs beig a special case and therefore deserving exceptional treatment?
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Re: No more free health services to TCs of "trnc" in the RoC

Postby Viewpoint » Fri Dec 07, 2012 8:44 am

Will the 14% of GCs who live below the poverty line also have to pay? if the south is to treat all her citizens equally and make TCs pay then surely the GCs in the same situation are also going to have to pay. Interesting move, the financial problems I predicted for the south and everyone (GCs+1) denied is starting to hit hard, they cannot stop the services all together as this would have internaitonal reprecussions but bring about a charge is not solely for the TCs but all those including those living in the south and under the poverty line.
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Re: No more free health services to TCs of "trnc" in the RoC

Postby Kikapu » Fri Dec 07, 2012 8:57 am

Viewpoint wrote:Will the 14% of GCs who live below the poverty line also have to pay? if the south is to treat all her citizens equally and make TCs pay then surely the GCs in the same situation are also going to have to pay. Interesting move, the financial problems I predicted for the south and everyone (GCs+1) denied is starting to hit hard, they cannot stop the services all together as this would have internaitonal reprecussions but bring about a charge is not solely for the TCs but all those including those living in the south and under the poverty line.


My guess is, all Cypriot citizens living in the free areas of the RoC will be given free health care. The article states 100,000 in the RoC will also have to pay in the future, along with the TCs living in the "trnc". The 100,000 could well be all foreign nationals, but TCs living in the RoC will continue receiving free health care. TC's not living or working in the RoC will be denied free health care in the RoC, just like me as a British citizen living abroad does not qualify to receive free health care in the UK.
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