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Postby yialousa1971 » Wed Jun 26, 2013 8:07 pm

Archimedes: Separating Myth From Science


For this hydropower generator at Dartmoor National Park in Devon, England, water flows in at the top and turns the Archimedes screw.
CHRIS ELLIOTT / WESTERN RENEWABLE ENERGY
By KENNETH CHANG
June 24, 2013
For the last time: Archimedes did not invent a death ray.

But more than 2,200 years after his death, his inventions are still driving technological innovations — so much so that experts from around the world gathered recently for a conference at New York University on his continuing influence.

The death ray legend has Archimedes using mirrors to concentrate sunlight to incinerate Roman ships attacking his home of Syracuse, the ancient city-state in the southeast Sicily. It has been debunked no fewer than three times on the television show “Mythbusters” (the third time at the behest of President Obama).

Rather, it is a mundane contraption attributed to the great Greek mathematician, inventor, engineer and military planner — the Archimedes screw, a corkscrew inside a cylinder — that has a new use in the 21st century. For thousands of years, farmers have used this simple machine for irrigation: Placed at an angle with one end submerged in a river or a lake, the screw is turned by a handle, lifting water upward and out at the other end.


For the last time: Archimedes did not invent a death ray.

But more than 2,200 years after his death, his inventions are still driving technological innovations — so much so that experts from around the world gathered recently for a conference at New York University on his continuing influence.

The death ray legend has Archimedes using mirrors to concentrate sunlight to incinerate Roman ships attacking his home of Syracuse, the ancient city-state in the southeast Sicily. It has been debunked no fewer than three times on the television show “Mythbusters” (the third time at the behest of President Obama).

Rather, it is a mundane contraption attributed to the great Greek mathematician, inventor, engineer and military planner — the Archimedes screw, a corkscrew inside a cylinder — that has a new use in the 21st century. For thousands of years, farmers have used this simple machine for irrigation: Placed at an angle with one end submerged in a river or a lake, the screw is turned by a handle, lifting water upward and out at the other end.


An oil painting of Archimedes by Giuseppe Patania, an early 19th century Italian artist, hangs in Palermo. Two inventions credited to Archimedes, death rays and steam cannons, have proved to be stubborn myths.
BIBLIOTECA COMUNALE, PALERMO, ITALY
Archimedes Screw

A couple of decades ago, engineers found that running an Archimedes screw backward — that is, dropping water in at the top, causing the screw to turn as the water falls to the bottom — is a robust, economical and efficient way to generate electricity from small streams. The power output is modest, enough for a village, but with a small impact on the environment. Unlike the turbine blades that spin in huge hydropower plants like the Hoover Dam, an Archimedes screw permits fish to swim through it and emerge at the other end almost unscathed.

Such generators have been built in Europe, including one commissioned by Queen Elizabeth II of England to power Windsor Castle; the first in the United States could start operating next year.

Construction of an Archimedean Screw Hydro Turbine

And Archimedes’ ideas are showing up in other fields as well.

“He just planted the seeds for so many seminal ideas that could grow over the ages,” said Chris Rorres, an emeritus professor of mathematics at Drexel University, who organized the conference at N.Y.U.

A panoply of devices and ideas are named after Archimedes. Besides the Archimedes screw, there is the Archimedes principle, the law of buoyancy that states the upward force on a submerged object equals the weight of the liquid displaced. There is the Archimedes claw, a weapon that most likely did exist, grabbing onto Roman ships and tipping them over. And there is the Archimedes sphere, a forerunner of the planetarium — a hand-held globe that showed the constellations as well as the locations of the sun and the planets in the sky.

“Here was someone who just changed how we look at the universe,” Dr. Rorres said.

Only a handful of Archimedes’ writings survive, and much of what we think we know about him was written centuries after his death.

Some of the legends, like using mirrors to set the Roman ships afire, proved too good to be true. The same may go for the tale of Archimedes figuring out, while sitting in a bathtub, how to tell if the maker of a crown for the king had fraudulently mixed in some silver with the gold; according to this story Archimedes, too excited to put on clothes, ran naked through the streets of Syracuse shouting, “Eureka!”

As with the mirrors, the underlying principle works. But in practice, the tiny difference in volume between a crown made of pure gold and one made of a mixture of gold and silver is too small to be reliably measured.

Some of the talks at the conference were about using present-day ingenuity to figure out what Archimedes actually achieved in antiquity.

Michael Wright, a researcher at Imperial College London, has been trying to decipher how the Archimedes sphere showed the night sky. Although it is described in historical writings, no pieces or even drawings of it have survived. Others had already made celestial spheres, globes that show the positions of the constellations.

The Roman historian Cicero described the Archimedes sphere as uninteresting at first glance until it was explained. “There was a wonderful contrivance due to Archimedes inside,” he wrote. “He had devised a way in which a single rotation would generate the several non-uniform motions.”

If this description is taken literally, it would seem that Archimedes figured out the gearing needed to mimic the motion of the planets, including the retrograde motion where they appear to stop and reverse direction for a while before proceeding in their usual direction.

“This instrument was just like any other celestial sphere, except with the addition of indicators for the Sun, Moon, the planets moving over the sphere and a mechanism inside the sphere to move them,” Mr. Wright said.

In the spring, he began building his version of the Archimedes sphere. He presented it in public for the first time at the conference.

“I can’t guarantee that the original was like this,” Mr. Wright said. “What I can say is this, in the simplest way that I can imagine it, fits the evidence we have. We’ve been talking for 2,000 years about this thing that Archimedes made, and nobody seems to have offered to show people what it was like. I had an idea. I thought it was worth making, even if it was so people could have an argument about it and disagree with it. That’s a good way to get things going.”

Dr. Rorres said the singular genius of Archimedes was that he not only was able to solve abstract mathematics problems, but also used mathematics to solve physics problems, and he then engineered devices to take advantage of the physics. “He came up with fundamental laws of nature, proved them mathematically and then was able to apply them,” Dr. Rorres said.

Archimedes oversaw the defenses of Syracuse, and while death ray mirrors and steam cannons (another supposed Archimedes invention debunked by “Mythbusters”) were too fanciful, the Archimedes claw appears to have been a real weapon used against the Roman navy.

It is very likely that it took advantage of two scientific principles Archimedes discovered.

With his law of buoyancy, he was able to determine whether a paraboloid (a shape similar to the nose cone of a jetliner) would float upright or tip over, a principle of utmost importance to ship designers, and Archimedes probably realized that the Roman ships were vulnerable as they came close to the city walls.

“Archimedes knew about the stability of these kinds of ships,” said Harry G. Harris, an emeritus professor of structural engineering at Drexel who has built a model of the claw. “When it is moving fast through the water, it is stable. Standing still or going very slow, it is very easy to tip over.”

So using an Archimedean principle — the law of the lever, which enables a small force to lift a large weight, as in seesaws and pulleys — a claw at the end of a chain would be lowered and hooked into a Roman ship, then lifted to capsize the ship and crash it against the rocks.

Syracuse won the battle but was weakened under a long siege and fell three years later. And in 212 B.C., at the age of about 75, Archimedes was killed by a Roman soldier, supposedly furious that he refused to stop work on a mathematical drawing. His last words: “Do not disturb my circles!”

Of course, that bit about the circles is probably also a myth.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/25/scien ... ience.html
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Re: Hellenic inventions and discoveries

Postby Svetlana » Thu Jun 27, 2013 3:00 pm

Look, Yialousa, we know YOU are a Hellenic invention.....
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Re: Hellenic inventions and discoveries

Postby yialousa1971 » Fri Jun 28, 2013 11:07 am

Svetlana wrote:Look, Yialousa, we know YOU are a Hellenic invention..... 8)


And so are the Russians :wink: at least in Religion and their Cyrillic alphabet. :D
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Re: Hellenic inventions and discoveries

Postby Get Real! » Fri Jun 28, 2013 3:34 pm

yialousa1971 wrote:Hellenic inventions and discoveries


The Wank-O-Meter was a wooden instrument for counting the speed of the forearm which aided the preparation of Greeks for the ancient Olympics.

The Gay Gauge was a water filled tub for inserting an athlete to see if a constant stream of air bubbles would form from his bottom to the surface of the water. Those who failed this ancient test were not permitted to participate in the ancient Olympics.
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Re:Screw Archimedes

Postby supporttheunderdog » Fri Jun 28, 2013 4:04 pm

I understand that A cuneiform inscription of the Assyrian king Sennacherib (704 - 681BC) has been interpreted to describe the casting of water screws in bronze some 350 years before Archimedes was born, while I understand the classical author Strabo describes the Hanging Gardens of Babylon as watered by screws......
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Re: Hellenic inventions and discoveries

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Re: Hellenic inventions and discoveries

Postby supporttheunderdog » Wed Jul 03, 2013 12:07 am

we can add to the list
(a) Racism (as preached by Hippocrates and Aristotle)
(b) Eugenic (as described by Plato)
(c) Imperialism (Aristotle and other poets)
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Re: Hellenic inventions and discoveries

Postby kurupetos » Wed Jul 03, 2013 1:25 am

supporttheunderdog wrote:we can add to the list
(a) Racism (as preached by Hippocrates and Aristotle)
(b) Eugenic (as described by Plato)
(c) Imperialism (Aristotle and other poets)

WTF are you up to? :lol:
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Re: Hellenic inventions and discoveries

Postby supporttheunderdog » Wed Jul 03, 2013 6:38 am

kurupetos wrote:
supporttheunderdog wrote:we can add to the list
(a) Racism (as preached by Hippocrates and Aristotle)
(b) Eugenic (as described by Plato)
(c) Imperialism (Aristotle and other poets)

WTF are you up to? :lol:


Just giving credit where it is due as we cannot allow perfidious Albion to claim something that in origin was Greek :D :D
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Re: Hellenic inventions and discoveries

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Wed Jul 03, 2013 7:22 am

supporttheunderdog wrote:we can add to the list
(a) Racism (as preached by Hippocrates and Aristotle)
(b) Eugenic (as described by Plato)
(c) Imperialism (Aristotle and other poets)


They wrote about these phenomena after Pytheas told them of his many finds in the newly discovered north-westerly land of Prettania which was inhabited by incestuous savages living in caves/mud huts, eating berries and trying to better themselves into the extremists of racism, practitioners of eugenics and global spreaders of these (using neo-Germanic tongues) by means of Imperialist invasions and colonisations and through the employment of semi-literate s.t.u.ds who lie and distort facts on the Internet! :D
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