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[GreekIslandGirl]

But once again this brings us back to why the "Great" powers fought/fight so hard to isolate Cyprus from Greece. Because instead of having one long stretch of territorial water going from the coast of Cyprus all the way to the mainland so that this huge part of the eastern Mediterranean belongs exclusively to the Hellenic people of Greece, Cyprus and all the other Hellenic islands, we instead have an "EEZ" between Greece and Cyprus with dubious and foreign determined accessibilities. And people like you continue the fight to make both Greece and Cyprus poorer with this isolationist mentality.

Hmm, that's definitely a mystery...

Do you suppose the fact that they're not as daft as you to assume that Cyprus is a “Hellenic” island, has something to do with it?

No, they're not daft - they have a lot to gain by isolating Cyprus, a whole stretch of Mediterranean - but they do depend on daft people to promote their divide and rule policies.

[kurupetos]

I agree. We should only connect to Greece.

Please bend over and I will connect you.

What are you doing under my foot? Be careful, midget!

[supporttheunderdog]

You would still only have an EEZ because quite simply Greece and Cyprus are too far apart for the territorial waters to stretch all the way...it is the megalist malakia of the sort that "g"IG spouts that helped promote the events of 1974...

[bill cobbett]

Our "friends" the Israelis are all too soon, showing their true colours ...

And if Cyprus does not allow the pipeline to pass through its EEZ to Turkey, Israeli officials say Israeli gas will probably not go to the Cypriot LNG plant either. Israel is making clear it doesn’t want to be pulled onto one side or the other of the frozen Turkey-Cyprus conflict.

http://www.ekathimerini.com/4dcgi/_w_ar ... 013_519229

Come on Cyprus - look to Europe and leave the US_Israel_Turkey trio behind.

I agree. We should only connect to Greece.

Some people really would do well to look up the provisions of UNCLOS on the laying of such things as pipe-lines, submarine cables etc through an EEZ ... and if they did they would discover that third parties can lay pipe-lines through the CY EEZ (that's outside the 12nm territorial sea zone) without permission from CY.

Yes, the EEZ can be accessed, crossed etc without permission - so long as resources are not mined - don't know how laying cables fits in but I am sure there are all sorts of exclusions and limitations.

But once again this brings us back to why the "Great" powers fought/fight so hard to isolate Cyprus from Greece. Because instead of having one long stretch of territorial water going from the coast of Cyprus all the way to the mainland so that this huge part of the eastern Mediterranean belongs exclusively to the Hellenic people of Greece, Cyprus and all the other Hellenic islands, we instead have an "EEZ" between Greece and Cyprus with dubious and foreign determined accessibilities. And people like you continue the fight to make both Greece and Cyprus poorer with this isolationist mentality.

Someone please tell Deep Fried Mars Bar For A Brain "g"IG that it's really very simple cos she's very confused...

CY has total control to exclusively exploit the natural resources of its EEZ, that's oil, gas and kalimari in the ways that it is doing, but other nations can cross the CY EEZ with such things as pipelines and cables without CY's leave.

The CY EEZ starts 12nm from shore, from there on out to midpoints, its CY EEZ.

Within 12 nm from shore it's CY Territorial Waters and 12 nm is the max Territorial Waters allowed by UNCLOS ... The natural resources are naturally again CY's but CY permission is required to cross territorial waters with pipes and cables.

Only a complete BirdBrain would think that CY and Greece could extend their Territorial Waters to some 300-400 miles... particularly when we recall that Greece won't extend them from the current 6 nm to the max allowed 12 nm for fear of a third party.

[Cap]

More riots in Greece.
Leftists vs Neo Nazi's.

[kurupetos]

More riots in Greece.
Leftists vs Neo Nazi's.

Who are the neonazi's, boy?

[Cap]

Dunno mate, I just read the headlines.
I'm assuming GD.

[GreekIslandGirl]

I agree. We should only connect to Greece.

Some people really would do well to look up the provisions of UNCLOS on the laying of such things as pipe-lines, submarine cables etc through an EEZ ... and if they did they would discover that third parties can lay pipe-lines through the CY EEZ (that's outside the 12nm territorial sea zone) without permission from CY.

Yes, the EEZ can be accessed, crossed etc without permission - so long as resources are not mined - don't know how laying cables fits in but I am sure there are all sorts of exclusions and limitations.

But once again this brings us back to why the "Great" powers fought/fight so hard to isolate Cyprus from Greece. Because instead of having one long stretch of territorial water going from the coast of Cyprus all the way to the mainland so that this huge part of the eastern Mediterranean belongs exclusively to the Hellenic people of Greece, Cyprus and all the other Hellenic islands, we instead have an "EEZ" between Greece and Cyprus with dubious and foreign determined accessibilities. And people like you continue the fight to make both Greece and Cyprus poorer with this isolationist mentality.

Someone please tell Deep Fried Mars Bar For A Brain "g"IG that it's really very simple cos she's very confused...

CY has total control to exclusively exploit the natural resources of its EEZ, that's oil, gas and kalimari in the ways that it is doing, but other nations can cross the CY EEZ with such things as pipelines and cables without CY's leave.

The CY EEZ starts 12nm from shore, from there on out to midpoints, its CY EEZ.

Within 12 nm from shore it's CY Territorial Waters and 12 nm is the max Territorial Waters allowed by UNCLOS ... The natural resources are naturally again CY's but CY permission is required to cross territorial waters with pipes and cables.

Only a complete BirdBrain would think that CY and Greece could extend their Territorial Waters to some 300-400 miles... particularly when we recall that Greece won't extend them from the current 6 nm to the max allowed 12 nm for fear of a third party.

Yes, but if Greece and Cyprus were conjoined, so would all their waters! The bit missing because we have been isolated is from Kastellorizo to Cyprus - Turkey has it!

[Get Real!]

But once again this brings us back to why the "Great" powers fought/fight so hard to isolate Cyprus from Greece. Because instead of having one long stretch of territorial water going from the coast of Cyprus all the way to the mainland so that this huge part of the eastern Mediterranean belongs exclusively to the Hellenic people of Greece, Cyprus and all the other Hellenic islands, we instead have an "EEZ" between Greece and Cyprus with dubious and foreign determined accessibilities. And people like you continue the fight to make both Greece and Cyprus poorer with this isolationist mentality.

Hmm, that's definitely a mystery...

Do you suppose the fact that they're not as daft as you to assume that Cyprus is a “Hellenic” island, has something to do with it?

No, they're not daft - they have a lot to gain by isolating Cyprus, a whole stretch of Mediterranean - but they do depend on daft people to promote their divide and rule policies.

Your daftness is legendary. Consult a map and the UN to learn who is who in this part of the world because no amount of fantasizing can change facts.

[bill cobbett]

I agree. We should only connect to Greece.

Some people really would do well to look up the provisions of UNCLOS on the laying of such things as pipe-lines, submarine cables etc through an EEZ ... and if they did they would discover that third parties can lay pipe-lines through the CY EEZ (that's outside the 12nm territorial sea zone) without permission from CY.

Yes, the EEZ can be accessed, crossed etc without permission - so long as resources are not mined - don't know how laying cables fits in but I am sure there are all sorts of exclusions and limitations.

But once again this brings us back to why the "Great" powers fought/fight so hard to isolate Cyprus from Greece. Because instead of having one long stretch of territorial water going from the coast of Cyprus all the way to the mainland so that this huge part of the eastern Mediterranean belongs exclusively to the Hellenic people of Greece, Cyprus and all the other Hellenic islands, we instead have an "EEZ" between Greece and Cyprus with dubious and foreign determined accessibilities. And people like you continue the fight to make both Greece and Cyprus poorer with this isolationist mentality.

Someone please tell Deep Fried Mars Bar For A Brain "g"IG that it's really very simple cos she's very confused...

CY has total control to exclusively exploit the natural resources of its EEZ, that's oil, gas and kalimari in the ways that it is doing, but other nations can cross the CY EEZ with such things as pipelines and cables without CY's leave.

The CY EEZ starts 12nm from shore, from there on out to midpoints, its CY EEZ.

Within 12 nm from shore it's CY Territorial Waters and 12 nm is the max Territorial Waters allowed by UNCLOS ... The natural resources are naturally again CY's but CY permission is required to cross territorial waters with pipes and cables.

Only a complete BirdBrain would think that CY and Greece could extend their Territorial Waters to some 300-400 miles... particularly when we recall that Greece won't extend them from the current 6 nm to the max allowed 12 nm for fear of a third party.

Yes, but if Greece and Cyprus were conjoined, so would all their waters! The bit missing because we have been isolated is from Kastellorizo to Cyprus - Turkey has it!

FFS...!!!

If by what "g"IG called "territorial waters" and is now calling plain "waters" she means Territorial Waters, as per the UNCLOS definition, CY and GR "waters" can never be conjoined...

However, the Greek and CY EEZs are conjoined by virtue of the Kastellorizo factor ...and through its national legislation (but so far nowhere else) Greece has declared to the World, including Turkey, an UNCLOS-max claim to a normal EEZ including the Kastellorizo effect. ...

... the bit that's missing is to take the bleeding piece of paper containing the few dozen co-ordinates of the mid-points of the Greek EEZ and which has been gathering dust in an office in Athens for years and frigging well send it to the UNCLOS Registry... and at the same time to extend Greek Territorial Waters to 12 nm.