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Postby iskismet » Sat Oct 09, 2004 12:59 am

Recognition of trnc representatives (PACE). Two TCs are to be recognised one as a rep the other as deputy. They are able to sit in on all EU meetings and the rep has the right to contribute to the meetings but not to vote.

The OIC was different. There are four EU countries currently anti moslem. That is france, germany, austria and holland (all for historical reasons but mainly to do with large turkish populations). Holland made a point of not accepting the trnc being called the cyprus state and managed to get support for the veto.

Bear in mind these countries will turn round and eventually agree on Turkish entry.
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Postby iskismet » Sat Oct 09, 2004 1:05 am

As far as I am aware Piratis the go ahead for accession talks does not depend on a majority vote. Agreement for Turkey to go into the EU does but that will not be for many years yet.

My understanding is that they got the go ahead this month but it is subject to ratification in December (to make sure Turkey agree conditions (which do not include mention of Cyprus). I can go back and reread the paper if you want me to - just to make sure I've got it right.

And if it is likely that tiny cyprus would try to block that, just watch how fast the rules could be changed!
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Postby Piratis » Sat Oct 09, 2004 11:05 am

Two TCs are to be recognized one as a rep the other as deputy. They are able to sit in on all EU meetings and the rep has the right to contribute to the meetings but not to vote.


"are to be"? Thats not what you said before ... I hope you understand the difference. If they have some TCs to sit in EU meetings this will be because they will be considered citizens of Republic of Cyprus. "trnc" will not be mentioned anywhere.


As far as I am aware Piratis the go ahead for accession talks does not depend on a majority vote


well, you are just wrong about this, what else do you want me to say? All countries should agree in December, otherwise there is not "go ahead" for Turkey.

And if it is likely that tiny Cyprus would try to block that, just watch how fast the rules could be changed!


The rules can be changed only if Cyprus agrees. Furthermore, there are other countries that would be very glad if Cyprus takes the responsibility of saying "no" to Turkey. Those are powerful countries within EU and they would much prefer that Cyprus will continue to have this power because this serves their own interests.
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Postby brother » Mon Oct 11, 2004 1:38 pm

HI PIRATIS
DO YOU REALLY WANT TO DO THE DIRTY WORK FOR OTHERS AND BE VIEWED AS THE BAD GUYS? AS I DO NOT WANT TO SEE ANY PART OF CYPRUS IN THAT SITUATION THANKYOU.....
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Postby brother » Mon Oct 25, 2004 12:02 pm

BUT FOR THE RECORD IF CYPRUS DOES VETO TURKEY I GUESS THAT 30 YEARS LOOKING AT THE NORTH FROM A DISTANCE WILL BECOME 300 YEARS MORE OF LOOKING AT A DISTANCE AND 30000 TURKISH SOILDERS KEEPING YOU FIRMLY IN YOUR PLACE. :D
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Postby -mikkie2- » Mon Oct 25, 2004 1:42 pm

Or more to the point, brother, keeping the TC's in their place, under the thumb of Turkey!

Yeah, great! At least we will be free and be masters of our own destiny.
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Postby brother » Mon Oct 25, 2004 3:16 pm

No eventually the tc will all leave and you will share cyprus with the mainland turks, god you guys should be careful , antagonise them at your own peril, and we the tc will cross over to the ROC and live there as per the laws.
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Postby turkcyp » Fri Dec 03, 2004 7:07 pm

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Postby metecyp » Fri Dec 03, 2004 7:18 pm

turkcyp wrote:Bu I should also add that, I am quite happy with the current situation in Cyprus. I think anything that makes me worse than what I already have is not acceptable

What's good about the current situation, especially for TCs? TCs still live in an unrecognized state, they still live isolated from the world. Many young people are still looking for ways to escape from the north, 10.000 TCs cross to the south to work as construction workers every day, many TCs living in Morphou (and other areas to be given back to GCs) don't even repair their houses thinking that they need to move anyway. And you're happy about this situation? Maybe you're but I'm not and I know that the majority of TCs are not happy either.
turkcyp wrote:Even Status Quo is better than some solutions that would satisfy the GCs. I am not in a rush to find a solution. Unfortunately, GCs are. (Unlike ewhat you think). I strongly believe time is on our side.

There's nothing about the status quo that is good for TCs. 80.000 people did not demonstrate against the status quo for nothing. So keep that in mind.

Secondly, time is not on TC side, it's not on GC side. Time is ticking against all Cypriots. Unless you see partition as a form of solution, then there's nothing to be happy about the current situation. More and more TCs are leaving the island, especially after the RoC joined the EU. I don't know about you but I don't want to return back to Cyprus with no TCs.
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