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Postby magikthrill » Tue Jun 07, 2005 2:36 pm

cannedmoose wrote:Just on your Gaza Strip point Thrill, yes it looks like the settlements will be removed, or more likely totally destroyed when the Israelis pull out of the strip. However, Israeli troops will continue to control the borders of the territory, including the border with Egypt; they will also continue to control the air and sea space, meaning that Gaza's ability for autonomous self-development will be subject to the whims of Israeli policy. We'll have a situation similar to that before this intifada began in 2000, albeit the Israelis won't have to worry about protecting thousands of settlers when responding to any future suicide bombings.

At the end of the day, the concentration camp that is Gaza will continue to be the mass prison it's been for the last 38 years.

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Postby cannedmoose » Tue Jun 07, 2005 3:03 pm

Amen Brother... :evil:
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Postby detailer » Tue Jun 07, 2005 4:27 pm

Piratis wrote:
Two TCs are to be recognized one as a rep the other as deputy. They are able to sit in on all EU meetings and the rep has the right to contribute to the meetings but not to vote.

"are to be"? Thats not what you said before ... I hope you understand the difference. If they have some TCs to sit in EU meetings this will be because they will be considered citizens of Republic of Cyprus. "trnc" will not be mentioned anywhere.

As far as I am aware Piratis the go ahead for accession talks does not depend on a majority vote

well, you are just wrong about this, what else do you want me to say? All countries should agree in December, otherwise there is not "go ahead" for Turkey.

And if it is likely that tiny Cyprus would try to block that, just watch how fast the rules could be changed!

The rules can be changed only if Cyprus agrees. Furthermore, there are other countries that would be very glad if Cyprus takes the responsibility of saying "no" to Turkey. Those are powerful countries within EU and they would much prefer that Cyprus will continue to have this power because this serves their own interests.


If these other countries want GC to veto Turkey, they ARE GOING to make it happen.(so they dont face Turkey's response directly)

If they want to see Turkey in EU, they are ARE GOING to prevent GC to veto it.

Turkey's entarance to EU is a much bigger deal than keeping GC happy(for the big uncles) so if it serves to their interests, they are not going care if GC are happy or not.

Don't underestimate Turkey's importance to EU.
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Postby demetriou_74 » Mon Jun 13, 2005 6:41 pm

said yes for several reasons.
1. make greeks seem unco-operative
2. make greeks pay themselves compensation
3. get money of the EU
4. be' forgiven' so to speak by internationals
5. start trading becasue currently they are an illegal state.
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