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Re: lucas says it how it is

Postby Viewpoint » Thu Apr 10, 2014 12:08 am

How old are you? do you live in 2014? have you been to Turkey? do you know any Turks? really you need to get a grip and move forward Turks are no longer Ottomans, why are you so affraid of people who came here 40 years ago have had children here married TCs, have their lives here on this island.

I think you are a racist so that really doesnt give me any hope of getting you to understand my viewpoint, I have clearly stated that maybe more than half will not be given citizenship yet you still demand they all be sent back, people see who is compromising and who is not.

Can you try and be honest are you a member of elam? or share their views? if you are then we can stop this debate right away as we are both wasting our time and its better you stay South and I North forever.
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Re: lucas says it how it is

Postby Maximus » Thu Apr 10, 2014 12:12 am

Viewpoint wrote:How old are you? do you live in 2014? have you been to Turkey? do you know any Turks? really you need to get a grip and move forward Turks are no longer Ottomans, why are you so affraid of people who came here 40 years ago have had children here married TCs, have their lives here on this island.

I think you are a racist so that really doesnt give me any hope of getting you to understand my viewpoint, I have clearly stated that maybe more than half will not be given citizenship yet you still demand they all be sent back, people see who is compromising and who is not.

Can you try and be honest are you a member of elam? or share their views? if you are then we can stop this debate right away as we are both wasting our time and its better you stay South and I North forever.


I dont give a damn what political party you think I belong to, your proposals are just ludicrous.
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Re: lucas says it how it is

Postby B25 » Thu Apr 10, 2014 8:19 am

Viewpoint wrote:Lets start with Tcs that settled after 1974? do you believe it right to send back children born here who are now 40 years old and do not know or want to go to Turkey?

Will you do the same with people WHO settled or were born in the South after 1974.


Rubbish, so let me get this straight, you are equating a legal sovereign country (RoC) giving entry and residence/citizenship to legally registered persons, with that of an illegally unrecognised statelet bringing in illegals and violating war crimes (4th Geneva Convention article 10) and you have a problem when we point this out to you??? I mean F hell. You are expecting, no demanding we legalise this occupied area and these Anatolian illegal gypsies so that we can be seen to be compromising??

Now you are taking the piss, you are obviously being fed to mush horse shit you mushrooms. I think the international community knows just who is in the wrong here. :twisted: :twisted:
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Re: lucas says it how it is

Postby Jerry » Thu Apr 10, 2014 8:57 am

Viewpoint wrote:Lets start with Tcs that settled after 1974? do you believe it right to send back children born here who are now 40 years old and do not know or want to go to Turkey?

Will you do the same with people WHO settled or were born in the South after 1974?

I compromise that we have a date for example 2000, up to this date everyone gets citizenship and those after get residency/work permits that can be revoked if and when necessary.



Of course the illegal immigrants and their descendants should be allowed to stay, they should share the 18% of the island that you are "entitled" to, be it federation, confederation or partition. That's a compromise.

Solve the share of territory issue and you will almost solve the Cyprus problem.
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Re: lucas says it how it is

Postby Viewpoint » Thu Apr 10, 2014 10:25 am

Maximus wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:How old are you? do you live in 2014? have you been to Turkey? do you know any Turks? really you need to get a grip and move forward Turks are no longer Ottomans, why are you so affraid of people who came here 40 years ago have had children here married TCs, have their lives here on this island.

I think you are a racist so that really doesnt give me any hope of getting you to understand my viewpoint, I have clearly stated that maybe more than half will not be given citizenship yet you still demand they all be sent back, people see who is compromising and who is not.

Can you try and be honest are you a member of elam? or share their views? if you are then we can stop this debate right away as we are both wasting our time and its better you stay South and I North forever.


I dont give a damn what political party you think I belong to, your proposals are just ludicrous.


This proves my point 100%, thank you.
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Re: lucas says it how it is

Postby Viewpoint » Thu Apr 10, 2014 10:30 am

B25 wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Lets start with Tcs that settled after 1974? do you believe it right to send back children born here who are now 40 years old and do not know or want to go to Turkey?

Will you do the same with people WHO settled or were born in the South after 1974.


Rubbish, so let me get this straight, you are equating a legal sovereign country (RoC) giving entry and residence/citizenship to legally registered persons, with that of an illegally unrecognised statelet bringing in illegals and violating war crimes (4th Geneva Convention article 10) and you have a problem when we point this out to you??? I mean F hell. You are expecting, no demanding we legalise this occupied area and these Anatolian illegal gypsies so that we can be seen to be compromising??

Now you are taking the piss, you are obviously being fed to mush horse shit you mushrooms. I think the international community knows just who is in the wrong here. :twisted: :twisted:


Hello where do you get your power from? the "RoC" in which we have rights and why you have to negotiate a solution because no one will assist you, so lets get this right you are using power stolen from us to grant citizenship yet we cannot, no the cookie doesnt crumble that way, you do not have the right to grant citizenship wthout our consent and we without yours then a compromise has to be found. Thats why your leaders and the world at large are accepting what I have proposed that a predetermined number will remain in a united Cyprus, you and Maxi are extremists and extemists cannot and will not compromise....thats why they are extremists and a total waste of time.
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Re: lucas says it how it is

Postby Maximus » Thu Apr 10, 2014 11:05 am

VP, it has been agreed before I think, that about 50,000 will be eligible to stay. Those immediate spouses married to Cypriots and their children.

But, you crap on all logic and reasonable rationale and then strut around like you have won something. Its pigeon brained.
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Re: lucas says it how it is

Postby B25 » Thu Apr 10, 2014 11:29 am

Viewpoint wrote:
B25 wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Lets start with Tcs that settled after 1974? do you believe it right to send back children born here who are now 40 years old and do not know or want to go to Turkey?

Will you do the same with people WHO settled or were born in the South after 1974.


Rubbish, so let me get this straight, you are equating a legal sovereign country (RoC) giving entry and residence/citizenship to legally registered persons, with that of an illegally unrecognised statelet bringing in illegals and violating war crimes (4th Geneva Convention article 10) and you have a problem when we point this out to you??? I mean F hell. You are expecting, no demanding we legalise this occupied area and these Anatolian illegal gypsies so that we can be seen to be compromising??

Now you are taking the piss, you are obviously being fed to mush horse shit you mushrooms. I think the international community knows just who is in the wrong here. :twisted: :twisted:


Hello where do you get your power from? the "RoC" in which we have rights and why you have to negotiate a solution because no one will assist you, so lets get this right you are using power stolen from us to grant citizenship yet we cannot, no the cookie doesnt crumble that way, you do not have the right to grant citizenship wthout our consent and we without yours then a compromise has to be found. Thats why your leaders and the world at large are accepting what I have proposed that a predetermined number will remain in a united Cyprus, you and Maxi are extremists and extemists cannot and will not compromise....thats why they are extremists and a total waste of time.


You can spin it anyway you like, you have drawn the cmpletely wrong conclusion about me, but hey I don't give a F*ck. As for your so called 'rights and permissions' we don't need any of it. We joined the EU, we held the EU presidency, we sign all international agreements, we have granted rights to our gas fields and shit load of other agreements WITHOUT NEEDING YOUR PERMISSION FOR ANY OF IT. Get it now. it is YOU that need the RoC, so get off your high horse and come down to reality.

You keep using this 'extremist' accusation as if it exonerates you of all your crimes, but I don't expect any more from a mushroom.

Have a nice day.
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Re: lucas says it how it is

Postby zan » Thu Apr 10, 2014 11:54 am

B25 wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
B25 wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Lets start with Tcs that settled after 1974? do you believe it right to send back children born here who are now 40 years old and do not know or want to go to Turkey?

Will you do the same with people WHO settled or were born in the South after 1974.


Rubbish, so let me get this straight, you are equating a legal sovereign country (RoC) giving entry and residence/citizenship to legally registered persons, with that of an illegally unrecognised statelet bringing in illegals and violating war crimes (4th Geneva Convention article 10) and you have a problem when we point this out to you??? I mean F hell. You are expecting, no demanding we legalise this occupied area and these Anatolian illegal gypsies so that we can be seen to be compromising??

Now you are taking the piss, you are obviously being fed to mush horse shit you mushrooms. I think the international community knows just who is in the wrong here. :twisted: :twisted:


Hello where do you get your power from? the "RoC" in which we have rights and why you have to negotiate a solution because no one will assist you, so lets get this right you are using power stolen from us to grant citizenship yet we cannot, no the cookie doesnt crumble that way, you do not have the right to grant citizenship wthout our consent and we without yours then a compromise has to be found. Thats why your leaders and the world at large are accepting what I have proposed that a predetermined number will remain in a united Cyprus, you and Maxi are extremists and extemists cannot and will not compromise....thats why they are extremists and a total waste of time.


You can spin it anyway you like, you have drawn the cmpletely wrong conclusion about me, but hey I don't give a F*ck. As for your so called 'rights and permissions' we don't need any of it. We joined the EU, we held the EU presidency, we sign all international agreements, we have granted rights to our gas fields and shit load of other agreements WITHOUT NEEDING YOUR PERMISSION FOR ANY OF IT. Get it now. it is YOU that need the RoC, so get off your high horse and come down to reality.

You keep using this 'extremist' accusation as if it exonerates you of all your crimes, but I don't expect any more from a mushroom.

Have a nice day.



And........Every time you have made those decisions and signings, without us, you have lost a little bit more of Cyprus. There is a price to pay but you cannot comprehend what is going on under your nose so excuse us if your "self portrayal" leaves us wanting!!!! :lol:
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Re: lucas says it how it is

Postby Viewpoint » Thu Apr 10, 2014 12:57 pm

Maximus wrote:VP, it has been agreed before I think, that about 50,000 will be eligible to stay. Those immediate spouses married to Cypriots and their children.

But, you crap on all logic and reasonable rationale and then strut around like you have won something. Its pigeon brained.


You still dont get it, its not a matter of wining or losing, its a matter of logic and finding the best solution. I dont see the benefit of uprooting people that have living in Cyprus for 40 years full stop, but facist brained people like yourself are unable to fathom reality and finding a balance. You are a revenge seeking maximlist who only wants to win.
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