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Re: lucas says it how it is

Postby Viewpoint » Thu Apr 10, 2014 1:00 pm

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Viewpoint wrote:Lets start with Tcs that settled after 1974? do you believe it right to send back children born here who are now 40 years old and do not know or want to go to Turkey?

Will you do the same with people WHO settled or were born in the South after 1974.


Rubbish, so let me get this straight, you are equating a legal sovereign country (RoC) giving entry and residence/citizenship to legally registered persons, with that of an illegally unrecognised statelet bringing in illegals and violating war crimes (4th Geneva Convention article 10) and you have a problem when we point this out to you??? I mean F hell. You are expecting, no demanding we legalise this occupied area and these Anatolian illegal gypsies so that we can be seen to be compromising??

Now you are taking the piss, you are obviously being fed to mush horse shit you mushrooms. I think the international community knows just who is in the wrong here. :twisted: :twisted:


Hello where do you get your power from? the "RoC" in which we have rights and why you have to negotiate a solution because no one will assist you, so lets get this right you are using power stolen from us to grant citizenship yet we cannot, no the cookie doesnt crumble that way, you do not have the right to grant citizenship wthout our consent and we without yours then a compromise has to be found. Thats why your leaders and the world at large are accepting what I have proposed that a predetermined number will remain in a united Cyprus, you and Maxi are extremists and extemists cannot and will not compromise....thats why they are extremists and a total waste of time.


You can spin it anyway you like, you have drawn the cmpletely wrong conclusion about me, but hey I don't give a F*ck. As for your so called 'rights and permissions' we don't need any of it. We joined the EU, we held the EU presidency, we sign all international agreements, we have granted rights to our gas fields and shit load of other agreements WITHOUT NEEDING YOUR PERMISSION FOR ANY OF IT. Get it now. it is YOU that need the RoC, so get off your high horse and come down to reality.

You keep using this 'extremist' accusation as if it exonerates you of all your crimes, but I don't expect any more from a mushroom.

Have a nice day.


Yes you have done all those things without our persmission but in order to agree a solution some of them will need to revised or else no solution...if you granted citizenship then we did to, this does not make you right and use wrong thats why you need to find a balance to reach an ulimate solution....sticking to your guns gets you no closer to what you want. But you are scum after all so expecting you to understand is asking to much.
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Re: lucas says it how it is

Postby Maximus » Thu Apr 10, 2014 1:08 pm

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Maximus wrote:VP, it has been agreed before I think, that about 50,000 will be eligible to stay. Those immediate spouses married to Cypriots and their children.

But, you crap on all logic and reasonable rationale and then strut around like you have won something. Its pigeon brained.


You still dont get it, its not a matter of wining or losing, its a matter of logic and finding the best solution. I dont see the benefit of uprooting people that have living in Cyprus for 40 years full stop, but facist brained people like yourself are unable to fathom reality and finding a balance. You are a revenge seeking maximlist who only wants to win.


The best solution is to follow the UN resolutions and the law.

I get it though, you see the benefit in uprooting people in the first place and usurping their property but you do not get the logic that it is their country and their possessions you are now negotiating with, expecting them to compromise while trying to superimpose illegal settlers. In the end, resolving nothing.

Your a mushroom VP. Criminally motivated and inclined.
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Re: lucas says it how it is

Postby Viewpoint » Thu Apr 10, 2014 2:43 pm

Maximus wrote:
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Maximus wrote:VP, it has been agreed before I think, that about 50,000 will be eligible to stay. Those immediate spouses married to Cypriots and their children.

But, you crap on all logic and reasonable rationale and then strut around like you have won something. Its pigeon brained.


You still dont get it, its not a matter of wining or losing, its a matter of logic and finding the best solution. I dont see the benefit of uprooting people that have living in Cyprus for 40 years full stop, but facist brained people like yourself are unable to fathom reality and finding a balance. You are a revenge seeking maximlist who only wants to win.


The best solution is to follow the UN resolutions and the law.

I get it though, you see the benefit in uprooting people in the first place and usurping their property but you do not get the logic that it is their country and their possessions you are now negotiating with, expecting them to compromise while trying to superimpose illegal settlers. In the end, resolving nothing.

Your a mushroom VP. Criminally motivated and inclined.
And you are a lost cause Maxi, you simple dont understand the basic, we messed up the past and no way of erasing it but we have the chance to build a better future but thats not your real goal, is it?

And you are a lost cause Maxi, you simple dont understand the basics, we messed up the past and have no way of going back to erase it but we have the chance to build a better future but thats not your real goal, is it? Fascist narrow minded extemists like yourself will never find a solution we can only hope your leaders are more intelligent and understanding with a desire to solve issues with compromise.
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Re: lucas says it how it is

Postby B25 » Thu Apr 10, 2014 3:14 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
B25 wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
B25 wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Lets start with Tcs that settled after 1974? do you believe it right to send back children born here who are now 40 years old and do not know or want to go to Turkey?

Will you do the same with people WHO settled or were born in the South after 1974.


Rubbish, so let me get this straight, you are equating a legal sovereign country (RoC) giving entry and residence/citizenship to legally registered persons, with that of an illegally unrecognised statelet bringing in illegals and violating war crimes (4th Geneva Convention article 10) and you have a problem when we point this out to you??? I mean F hell. You are expecting, no demanding we legalise this occupied area and these Anatolian illegal gypsies so that we can be seen to be compromising??

Now you are taking the piss, you are obviously being fed to mush horse shit you mushrooms. I think the international community knows just who is in the wrong here. :twisted: :twisted:


Hello where do you get your power from? the "RoC" in which we have rights and why you have to negotiate a solution because no one will assist you, so lets get this right you are using power stolen from us to grant citizenship yet we cannot, no the cookie doesnt crumble that way, you do not have the right to grant citizenship wthout our consent and we without yours then a compromise has to be found. Thats why your leaders and the world at large are accepting what I have proposed that a predetermined number will remain in a united Cyprus, you and Maxi are extremists and extemists cannot and will not compromise....thats why they are extremists and a total waste of time.


You can spin it anyway you like, you have drawn the cmpletely wrong conclusion about me, but hey I don't give a F*ck. As for your so called 'rights and permissions' we don't need any of it. We joined the EU, we held the EU presidency, we sign all international agreements, we have granted rights to our gas fields and shit load of other agreements WITHOUT NEEDING YOUR PERMISSION FOR ANY OF IT. Get it now. it is YOU that need the RoC, so get off your high horse and come down to reality.

You keep using this 'extremist' accusation as if it exonerates you of all your crimes, but I don't expect any more from a mushroom.

Have a nice day.


Yes you have done all those things without our persmission but in order to agree a solution some of them will need to revised or else no solution...if you granted citizenship then we did to, this does not make you right and use wrong thats why you need to find a balance to reach an ulimate solution....sticking to your guns gets you no closer to what you want. But you are scum after all so expecting you to understand is asking to much.


As stated, we do not need nor desire your PERMISSION to do any thing in our legally recognised sovereign state. Unlike your prison camp where you need to ask the guards to take a piss! :lol: :lol: :lol:

Seems your hypocrisy knows no bounds, you happily evict 200,000 indigenous and legal owners from their properties and lands, fill them with shit and you have the audacity to complain when we ask you to removed them??? Now who is the scum bag?
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Re: lucas says it how it is

Postby Maximus » Thu Apr 10, 2014 3:53 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
Maximus wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Maximus wrote:VP, it has been agreed before I think, that about 50,000 will be eligible to stay. Those immediate spouses married to Cypriots and their children.

But, you crap on all logic and reasonable rationale and then strut around like you have won something. Its pigeon brained.


You still dont get it, its not a matter of wining or losing, its a matter of logic and finding the best solution. I dont see the benefit of uprooting people that have living in Cyprus for 40 years full stop, but facist brained people like yourself are unable to fathom reality and finding a balance. You are a revenge seeking maximlist who only wants to win.


The best solution is to follow the UN resolutions and the law.

I get it though, you see the benefit in uprooting people in the first place and usurping their property but you do not get the logic that it is their country and their possessions you are now negotiating with, expecting them to compromise while trying to superimpose illegal settlers. In the end, resolving nothing.

Your a mushroom VP. Criminally motivated and inclined.


And you are a lost cause Maxi, you simple dont understand the basics, we messed up the past and have no way of going back to erase it but we have the chance to build a better future but thats not your real goal, is it? Fascist narrow minded extemists like yourself will never find a solution we can only hope your leaders are more intelligent and understanding with a desire to solve issues with compromise.


Get it straight, your side messed up, your side continues to pillage and import settlers and does not want to erase it, your side wants to keep the stolen loot to profit and change the facts on the ground to support such arguments. its your side that is looking to build a better future at the expense and on the misery and subjugation of others. Illegally, immorally and illogically backwards.

Its your side that benefits from the status quo and has little incentive in "finding a solutions". How can you keep call me a 'facist', 'illogical', 'extremist', 'lost cause' when you are the one advocating apartheid, segregation, theft, and all things illegitimate. I know. You are projecting.

Psychological projection is the act or technique of defending yourself against unpleasant impulses by denying their existence in yourself, while attributing them to others.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection


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Re: lucas says it how it is

Postby Viewpoint » Thu Apr 10, 2014 4:05 pm

B25 wrote:
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Viewpoint wrote:Hello where do you get your power from? the "RoC" in which we have rights and why you have to negotiate a solution because no one will assist you, so lets get this right you are using power stolen from us to grant citizenship yet we cannot, no the cookie doesnt crumble that way, you do not have the right to grant citizenship wthout our consent and we without yours then a compromise has to be found. Thats why your leaders and the world at large are accepting what I have proposed that a predetermined number will remain in a united Cyprus, you and Maxi are extremists and extemists cannot and will not compromise....thats why they are extremists and a total waste of time.


You can spin it anyway you like, you have drawn the cmpletely wrong conclusion about me, but hey I don't give a F*ck. As for your so called 'rights and permissions' we don't need any of it. We joined the EU, we held the EU presidency, we sign all international agreements, we have granted rights to our gas fields and shit load of other agreements WITHOUT NEEDING YOUR PERMISSION FOR ANY OF IT. Get it now. it is YOU that need the RoC, so get off your high horse and come down to reality.

You keep using this 'extremist' accusation as if it exonerates you of all your crimes, but I don't expect any more from a mushroom.

Have a nice day.


Yes you have done all those things without our persmission but in order to agree a solution some of them will need to revised or else no solution...if you granted citizenship then we did to, this does not make you right and use wrong thats why you need to find a balance to reach an ulimate solution....sticking to your guns gets you no closer to what you want. But you are scum after all so expecting you to understand is asking to much.


As stated, we do not need nor desire your PERMISSION to do any thing in our legally recognised sovereign state. Unlike your prison camp where you need to ask the guards to take a piss! :lol: :lol: :lol:

Seems your hypocrisy knows no bounds, you happily evict 200,000 indigenous and legal owners from their properties and lands, fill them with shit and you have the audacity to complain when we ask you to removed them??? Now who is the scum bag?


YOU because you belong to the EU and Troyka, so they say jump and you ask how high. You are a fascist and a racist, refering to humans as shit is yet another reason why we will never find a solution, the current situation is what you deserve.
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Re: lucas says it how it is

Postby Viewpoint » Thu Apr 10, 2014 4:11 pm

Maximus wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Maximus wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Maximus wrote:VP, it has been agreed before I think, that about 50,000 will be eligible to stay. Those immediate spouses married to Cypriots and their children.

But, you crap on all logic and reasonable rationale and then strut around like you have won something. Its pigeon brained.


You still dont get it, its not a matter of wining or losing, its a matter of logic and finding the best solution. I dont see the benefit of uprooting people that have living in Cyprus for 40 years full stop, but facist brained people like yourself are unable to fathom reality and finding a balance. You are a revenge seeking maximlist who only wants to win.


The best solution is to follow the UN resolutions and the law.

I get it though, you see the benefit in uprooting people in the first place and usurping their property but you do not get the logic that it is their country and their possessions you are now negotiating with, expecting them to compromise while trying to superimpose illegal settlers. In the end, resolving nothing.

Your a mushroom VP. Criminally motivated and inclined.


And you are a lost cause Maxi, you simple dont understand the basics, we messed up the past and have no way of going back to erase it but we have the chance to build a better future but thats not your real goal, is it? Fascist narrow minded extemists like yourself will never find a solution we can only hope your leaders are more intelligent and understanding with a desire to solve issues with compromise.


Get it straight, your side messed up, your side continues to pillage and import settlers and does not want to erase it, your side wants to keep the stolen loot to profit and change the facts on the ground to support such arguments. its your side that is looking to build a better future on the misery and subjugation of others. Illegally, immorally and illogically backwards.

Its your side that benefits from the status quo and has little incentive in "finding a solutions". How can you keep call me a 'facist', 'illogical', 'extremist', 'lost cause' when you are the one advocating apartheid, segregation, theft, and all things illegitimate. I know. You are projecting.

Psychological projection is the act or technique of defending yourself against unpleasant impulses by denying their existence in yourself, while attributing them to others.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection


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Your illogical and extremists demands do not warrant anymore debate, just promise to stay south of the border and wallow in your own shitty mess. We will see in the coming months if your leaders are intelligent enough to solve the problems taking account the reality before them in a air of compromise and not fascistic extremist racist tendancies like you and people like you.
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Re: lucas says it how it is

Postby B25 » Thu Apr 10, 2014 4:48 pm

What a crock of shit. Typical answer when you have no real response, just play the racist card. Wanker!
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Re: lucas says it how it is

Postby Pyrpolizer » Thu Apr 10, 2014 9:11 pm

This is just another round of the same story.
The settlers issue has to do with their holding GC lands and homes. plus the fact that they changed the demographics.
The old known percentage of 18+82% by the time of the Anan Plan Referendum became 30+70% !!
And I am not exaggerating go back and read the number of votes in 2004.
And it's not only that, settlers hold voting power. Which settler would ever vote yes to a solution knowing he will lose the lands and home he got for free?
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Re: lucas says it how it is

Postby Maximus » Thu Apr 10, 2014 10:04 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:This is just another round of the same story.
The settlers issue has to do with their holding GC lands and homes. plus the fact that they changed the demographics.
The old known percentage of 18+82% by the time of the Anan Plan Referendum became 30+70% !!
And I am not exaggerating go back and read the number of votes in 2004.
And it's not only that, settlers hold voting power. Which settler would ever vote yes to a solution knowing he will lose the lands and home he got for free?


None of them would, but this is all theirs that they have to compromise.
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