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Re: Who is Muslim?

Postby Oceanside50 » Fri May 23, 2014 3:59 am

With all due respect GR, isn't the true intentions of God a mystery, and coming up with exact numbers and intentions a waste of time?
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Re: Who is Muslim?

Postby Get Real! » Fri May 23, 2014 4:48 am

Oceanside50 wrote:With all due respect GR, isn't the true intentions of God a mystery,

Err no… throughout the bible we are repeatedly told to repent our sins so as to inherit eternal life in the “coming kingdom of God”. You just can’t miss it!

That’s the very reason God (allegedly) sent his son (Jesus) to be crucified so that you and I may have a chance at inheriting this kingdom subject to our repentance. The spilling of Jesus’ blood on the cross is symbolic of that opportunity man has been granted.

“For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.“ John 3:16

...and coming up with exact numbers and intentions a waste of time?

Well I didn't give any starting or ending days of events other than longevities (time spans) as given in the bible.

None of what I posted was made up... it's a mini “crash course” if you like on some of the fundamentals of Christianity (in accordance with the bible) for my friend Deniz who is Muslim and may need to quickly pick up on some of our basic theory, which he’ll find has many resemblances to Islam.
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Re: Who is Muslim?

Postby Paphitis » Fri May 23, 2014 5:13 am

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denizaksulu wrote:If there is a God why doesn't she protect children?

Some quick numbered notes that may help answer your question:

1. Number 7 is important in the biblical world...

2. Six days of creation + 1 Sabbath (sanctified resting day) = 7 days

3. But each day = 1000 years:

"But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day." (King James - 2 Peter 3:8)

4. Also... God has what is called a 7,000 year plan for man.

5. Man has been granted dominion over the Earth to rule uninterrupted for 6,000 years after which Jesus returns for 1,000 years = Total 7,000

6. Man's physical presence on Earth is temporary because the average lifespan is around 70 years and we then expire in a variety of ways, but God's plan is to grant man a celestial existence (somewhere in the heavens) whereby man will live for eternity in the form of a spirit. Conclusion= Physical presence temporary and not important but spirit... important!

7. Dead children automatically inherit eternal life with God for they are without sin other than the sin inherited through Adam & Eve ancestry for which Jesus already paid the price via crucifixion.

8. You and I being adults are full of sin... therefore only through repentance can we secure our "ticket" to the celestial afterlife.


I hope that helps… :lol:


Btw, God doesn't have a gender but we refer to "him" out of respect.


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Re: Who is Muslim?

Postby miltiades » Fri May 23, 2014 6:06 am

I have always been mystified as to why it was apparently necessary for God to dispatch his angels to Egypt in order that they murder all the first born children of the Egyptians, to teach Pharaoh a lesson in refusing to let His people go. Was it really necessary for the angels to be sent, couldn't the creator of the universe use a more ...subtle method to carry out this mass murder, I suggest that the angels must have used strangulation as their means of killing the children. How disgusting!!

On the other hand, God could have just compelled, peacefully, Pharaoh, his ...own creation, to let his people go !!!

The old testament is one of the most cruel, vicious books ever written by man, it is followed both my Christians and Muslims, as well as the Jews.
God forgive me !!
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Re: Who is Muslim?

Postby kurupetos » Fri May 23, 2014 11:41 am

miltiades wrote:I have always been mystified as to why it was apparently necessary for God to dispatch his angels to Egypt in order that they murder all the first born children of the Egyptians, to teach Pharaoh a lesson in refusing to let His people go. Was it really necessary for the angels to be sent, couldn't the creator of the universe use a more ...subtle method to carry out this mass murder, I suggest that the angels must have used strangulation as their means of killing the children. How disgusting!!

On the other hand, God could have just compelled, peacefully, Pharaoh, his ...own creation, to let his people go !!!

The old testament is one of the most cruel, vicious books ever written by man, it is followed both my Christians and Muslims, as well as the Jews.
God forgive me !!

You forgot free will. :roll: What about the New Testament? :wink:
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Re: Who is Muslim?

Postby Paphitis » Fri May 23, 2014 11:44 am

kurupetos wrote:
miltiades wrote:I have always been mystified as to why it was apparently necessary for God to dispatch his angels to Egypt in order that they murder all the first born children of the Egyptians, to teach Pharaoh a lesson in refusing to let His people go. Was it really necessary for the angels to be sent, couldn't the creator of the universe use a more ...subtle method to carry out this mass murder, I suggest that the angels must have used strangulation as their means of killing the children. How disgusting!!

On the other hand, God could have just compelled, peacefully, Pharaoh, his ...own creation, to let his people go !!!

The old testament is one of the most cruel, vicious books ever written by man, it is followed both my Christians and Muslims, as well as the Jews.
God forgive me !!

You forgot free will. :roll: What about the New Testament? :wink:


That's only for fools like yourself that need to be herded like sheep and taught how to behave.

The rest of us don't need it because we are too Greek as opposed to Jewish and also more pagan! We have free will, reason and individuality! :D
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Re: Who is Muslim?

Postby denizaksulu » Fri May 23, 2014 12:37 pm

Please dear GR.......do not torture me with figures........unless they ate Aphrodite like. :lol:
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Re: Who is Muslim?

Postby Get Real! » Fri May 23, 2014 2:33 pm

miltiades wrote:I have always been mystified as to why it was apparently necessary for God to dispatch his angels to Egypt in order that they murder all the first born children of the Egyptians, to teach Pharaoh a lesson in refusing to let His people go. Was it really necessary for the angels to be sent, couldn't the creator of the universe use a more ...subtle method to carry out this mass murder, I suggest that the angels must have used strangulation as their means of killing the children. How disgusting!!

:? There were no angels involved… I don’t know where you got that from! :lol:

You’re referring to the 10 plagues of Egypt and specifically the last "Death of the firstborn"…

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plagues_of_Egypt

A gaseous like mist is what killed the firstborns.
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Re: Who is Muslim?

Postby Paphitis » Fri May 23, 2014 2:55 pm

Get Real! wrote:
miltiades wrote:I have always been mystified as to why it was apparently necessary for God to dispatch his angels to Egypt in order that they murder all the first born children of the Egyptians, to teach Pharaoh a lesson in refusing to let His people go. Was it really necessary for the angels to be sent, couldn't the creator of the universe use a more ...subtle method to carry out this mass murder, I suggest that the angels must have used strangulation as their means of killing the children. How disgusting!!

:? There were no angels involved… I don’t know where you got that from! :lol:

You’re referring to the 10 plagues of Egypt and specifically the last "Death of the firstborn"…

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plagues_of_Egypt

A gaseous like mist is what killed the firstborns.


Wow this God sounds like a total prick!

Can we have Him up on War Crimes?
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Re: Who is Muslim?

Postby Get Real! » Fri May 23, 2014 4:18 pm

Paphitis wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
miltiades wrote:I have always been mystified as to why it was apparently necessary for God to dispatch his angels to Egypt in order that they murder all the first born children of the Egyptians, to teach Pharaoh a lesson in refusing to let His people go. Was it really necessary for the angels to be sent, couldn't the creator of the universe use a more ...subtle method to carry out this mass murder, I suggest that the angels must have used strangulation as their means of killing the children. How disgusting!!

:? There were no angels involved… I don’t know where you got that from! :lol:

You’re referring to the 10 plagues of Egypt and specifically the last "Death of the firstborn"…

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plagues_of_Egypt

A gaseous like mist is what killed the firstborns.

Wow this God sounds like a total prick!

Can we have Him up on War Crimes?

From Milti’s imaginary “angels killing children” to your incessant daft comments I’m surprised God hasn’t liquidated the lot of you! :?

At the very least God should be praised for the extraordinary patience he is showing with so many oafs on this planet!

In his place I’d incinerate the lot of you and start all over again only this time I’d make common sense compulsory in the human DNA.

There’d be no dodging it this time Paphitis!
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