The Best Cyprus Community

Skip to content


Who is Muslim?

Feel free to talk about anything that you want.

Re: Who is Muslim?

Postby kurupetos » Sun May 25, 2014 1:36 pm

supporttheunderdog wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:The funny thing is that when referring to God each one of us has the same thing in mind. A Creator!! Some of us say- erm... I don't know if there is a "creator" or not, and if there is one, what he wants from us and what our purpose of existence is, but there is not not even on of us that can refuse the fact that there is a plan of infinite complexity and accuracy both in design and functioning in this world.

On the creator.

image.jpg


On the "intelligent design" thesis according to my son, nature tries random but repeated experiments in design, ie mutations in DNA and what works for a time, because it finds a niche, survives until that niche disappears. As other niches emerge so in due time new species of creatures, which may be similar in some ways to extinct species which had filled similar niches in the past, then emerge.

Who created the universe then? :lol:
User avatar
kurupetos
Leading Contributor
Leading Contributor
 
Posts: 18855
Joined: Tue Jul 31, 2007 7:46 pm
Location: Cyprus

Re: Who is Muslim?

Postby Paphitis » Sun May 25, 2014 2:26 pm

kurupetos wrote:
supporttheunderdog wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:The funny thing is that when referring to God each one of us has the same thing in mind. A Creator!! Some of us say- erm... I don't know if there is a "creator" or not, and if there is one, what he wants from us and what our purpose of existence is, but there is not not even on of us that can refuse the fact that there is a plan of infinite complexity and accuracy both in design and functioning in this world.

On the creator.

image.jpg


On the "intelligent design" thesis according to my son, nature tries random but repeated experiments in design, ie mutations in DNA and what works for a time, because it finds a niche, survives until that niche disappears. As other niches emerge so in due time new species of creatures, which may be similar in some ways to extinct species which had filled similar niches in the past, then emerge.

Who created the universe then? :lol:


Big Bang!
User avatar
Paphitis
Leading Contributor
Leading Contributor
 
Posts: 32303
Joined: Sun May 21, 2006 2:06 pm

Re: Who is Muslim?

Postby supporttheunderdog » Sun May 25, 2014 2:32 pm

kurupetos wrote:
supporttheunderdog wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:The funny thing is that when referring to God each one of us has the same thing in mind. A Creator!! Some of us say- erm... I don't know if there is a "creator" or not, and if there is one, what he wants from us and what our purpose of existence is, but there is not not even on of us that can refuse the fact that there is a plan of infinite complexity and accuracy both in design and functioning in this world.

On the creator.

image.jpg


On the "intelligent design" thesis according to my son, nature tries random but repeated experiments in design, ie mutations in DNA and what works for a time, because it finds a niche, survives until that niche disappears. As other niches emerge so in due time new species of creatures, which may be similar in some ways to extinct species which had filled similar niches in the past, then emerge.

Who created the universe then? :lol:


Look at the image...
User avatar
supporttheunderdog
Main Contributor
Main Contributor
 
Posts: 8394
Joined: Thu Oct 28, 2010 3:03 pm
Location: limassol

Re: Who is Muslim?

Postby Get Real! » Sun May 25, 2014 2:58 pm

Paphitis wrote:
kurupetos wrote:Who created the universe then? :lol:

Big Bang!

Who created the "Big Bang" ?

See the problem? :wink:

No matter what you come up with… the question will always remain:

“But who created that?”

…in an infinite loop!

But nobody in the right mind can say… “But who created God” because God is everlasting (infinite), has no beginning an no end so he doesn’t need a creator!

Now do you see the light, why only a God can kick-start such a process? :)
User avatar
Get Real!
Forum Addict
Forum Addict
 
Posts: 48333
Joined: Mon Feb 26, 2007 12:25 am
Location: Nicosia

Re: Who is Muslim?

Postby Get Real! » Sun May 25, 2014 3:04 pm

"Which came first, the chicken or the egg?" ...dilemma is more evidence that there's a God as neither the chicken nor the egg could come before the other without SUPERNATURAL intervention!

:wink:
User avatar
Get Real!
Forum Addict
Forum Addict
 
Posts: 48333
Joined: Mon Feb 26, 2007 12:25 am
Location: Nicosia

Re: Who is Muslim?

Postby Paphitis » Sun May 25, 2014 3:16 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
kurupetos wrote:Who created the universe then? :lol:

Big Bang!

Who created the "Big Bang" ?

See the problem? :wink:

No matter what you come up with… the question will always remain:

“But who created that?”

…in an infinite loop!

But nobody in the right mind can say… “But who created God” because God is everlasting (infinite), has no beginning an no end so he doesn’t need a creator!

Now do you see the light, why only a God can kick-start such a process? :)


No I don't see the problem in some immaculate creator not existing because no one created the creator! See the problem? :wink:
User avatar
Paphitis
Leading Contributor
Leading Contributor
 
Posts: 32303
Joined: Sun May 21, 2006 2:06 pm

Re: Who is Muslim?

Postby Get Real! » Sun May 25, 2014 3:18 pm

Paphitis wrote:No I don't see the problem in some immaculate creator not existing because no one created the creator! See the problem? :wink:

No but I certainly see your hard-headedness! :lol:
User avatar
Get Real!
Forum Addict
Forum Addict
 
Posts: 48333
Joined: Mon Feb 26, 2007 12:25 am
Location: Nicosia

Re: Who is Muslim?

Postby Paphitis » Sun May 25, 2014 3:24 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Paphitis wrote:No I don't see the problem in some immaculate creator not existing because no one created the creator! See the problem? :wink:

No but I certainly see your hard-headedness! :lol:


It's just common sense and reason! :lol:
User avatar
Paphitis
Leading Contributor
Leading Contributor
 
Posts: 32303
Joined: Sun May 21, 2006 2:06 pm

Re: Who is Muslim?

Postby Get Real! » Sun May 25, 2014 3:31 pm

Paphitis wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Paphitis wrote:No I don't see the problem in some immaculate creator not existing because no one created the creator! See the problem? :wink:

No but I certainly see your hard-headedness! :lol:

It's just common sense and reason! :lol:

My dear Paphitis… although you certainly have the ability to use common sense you’re one of those billions of individuals who haven’t tapped into it yet! :)

For common sense would tell you that neither the chicken nor the egg can come first so something or someone must INTENTIONALLY place the very first specimen or two down on the game board so that the reproduction process may begin!

The same goes for every single species on Earth including humans… the very first male and female of each species *MUST* have been placed on the theater by a superpower!
User avatar
Get Real!
Forum Addict
Forum Addict
 
Posts: 48333
Joined: Mon Feb 26, 2007 12:25 am
Location: Nicosia

Re: Who is Muslim?

Postby T_C » Sun May 25, 2014 3:45 pm

If god does indeed exist then it would be some form of alien life form, and the rules which apply to us would not apply in reverse to the creator..

Asking "if god created us, who created god" would be like an AI computer built by humans asking itself "if god programmed my existence, then whom coded god?" The computer would be oblivious to human existence and everything it is compromised of...it would not be able to imagine the concept of birth because it would be trying to answer the question with what it knows of it's own existence- codes!

Birth and creation is how we came to exist, it could not possibly apply for the creator of that creation, because there would be as vast a difference between our existence and that of gods, as there would be between us and any form of AI we create within a computer.
User avatar
T_C
Main Contributor
Main Contributor
 
Posts: 3513
Joined: Tue Jan 30, 2007 3:16 am
Location: London

PreviousNext

Return to General Chat

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest