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Re: WHY I SUPPORT ISRAEL

Postby miltiades » Thu Aug 07, 2014 12:33 pm

Sotos wrote:Seems that you two are ignorant of our history and the sequence of events. When the British took over from the Ottomans we were celebrating. We considered them as our Christian European friends that would show some respect to us... we even fought on their side in WWII believing their fake promises. If all they wanted was us to be their allies they could have very easily have that. But they didn't want us to be their allies. They saw us and Cyprus like objects to be exploited and they treated us in a very hostile way. And by the way ... it seems that they did something similar to Palestine. I don't know their history very good, but from what I read the British took the Arabs on their side making faking promises to them in order to take Palestine from the Ottomans. Then they stabbed Palestinians on the back, allowing 1000s of Jews to enter Palestine and then they gave Palestine to the Jews!

Sotos, why so preoccupied with Palestine, Cyprus is what we are talking about not Afghanistan or Iran, Cyprus.
The British Empire acted just as any other super power would have done. LOOKED AFTER THEIR OWN INTERESTS.

Its time that we too concerned ourselves with OUR interests. Do you think that the Palestinians give a toss about Cyprus, I dont think so.
Let us forge closer alliances with nations that have POWER.
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Re: WHY I SUPPORT ISRAEL

Postby Get Real! » Thu Aug 07, 2014 12:49 pm

Give up the criminal tendencies foolish old geezer and repent your sins while you’ve got time for you’ve been misdiagnosed… it's not your prostate that has the problem but your brain!
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Re: WHY I SUPPORT ISRAEL

Postby miltiades » Thu Aug 07, 2014 12:58 pm

Get Real! wrote:Give up the criminal tendencies foolish old geezer and repent your sins while you’ve got time for you’ve been misdiagnosed… it's not your prostate that has the problem but your brain!

Opos ton fanti pastouni o malakas !!
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Re: WHY I SUPPORT ISRAEL

Postby Paphitis » Thu Aug 07, 2014 2:20 pm

Sotos wrote:Seems that you two are ignorant of our history and the sequence of events. When the British took over from the Ottomans we were celebrating. We considered them as our Christian European friends that would show some respect to us... we even fought on their side in WWII believing their fake promises. If all they wanted was us to be their allies they could have very easily have that. But they didn't want us to be their allies. They saw us and Cyprus like objects to be exploited and they treated us in a very hostile way. And by the way ... it seems that they did something similar to Palestine. I don't know their history very good, but from what I read the British took the Arabs on their side making faking promises to them in order to take Palestine from the Ottomans. Then they stabbed Palestinians on the back, allowing 1000s of Jews to enter Palestine and then they gave Palestine to the Jews!


Sotos, you're really ignorant.

Whether you like it or not, the US is an Empire, not unlike the Roman, or the Empire Alexander The Great built through conquest. The only difference is that emoires today are created a bit differently.

Everything is to be exploited as far as they are concerned. So why put yourself in that position? Why???

Let them have what they want, and in return, make sure the RoC benefited with security! One thing's for sure, I do not trust you imbeciles one little bit, so as far as I am concerned, NATO membership is an insurance policy against your stupidity! :roll:

Also, the Japanese fought against the allies in WW2. The suffering the US and Australian Military endured fighting the Japanese, was quite something else. It was barbaric. But today, they are all best friends.

Furthermore, the Jews were promised a homeland after WW2 by The League of Nations which became the UN. It was decided that they would be settled in Palestine, and later Israel will be formed. Where else could they go? You always talk about Constantinople, and the Jews talk about Jerusalem. It's their capital and always was thousands of years ago.
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Re: WHY I SUPPORT ISRAEL

Postby miltiades » Thu Aug 07, 2014 2:39 pm

The love affair with the Arab world is strong amongst some Cypriots, ready to defend even the most brutal acts that take take place throughout the ME. Animosity towards the West and in particular towards the USA and Israel is nourished by idiots who share the psychopaths views.Never mind that the interests of Cyprus are best served by alliances with the above mentioned. These complete and utter morons share the same mentality as those way back in the early 60s who betrayed Cyprus resulting in the ensuing occupation of our northern parts by Turkey.

Hate the Americans, hate Israel you good for FA morons, go join the Jihadis in Syria and elsewhere.
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Re: WHY I SUPPORT ISRAEL

Postby Get Real! » Thu Aug 07, 2014 3:02 pm

miltiades wrote:The love affair with the Arab world is strong amongst some Cypriots, ready to defend even the most brutal acts that take take place throughout the ME. Animosity towards the West and in particular towards the USA and Israel is nourished by idiots who share the psychopaths views.Never mind that the interests of Cyprus are best served by alliances with the above mentioned. These complete and utter morons share the same mentality as those way back in the early 60s who betrayed Cyprus resulting in the ensuing occupation of our northern parts by Turkey.

Hate the Americans, hate Israel you good for FA morons, go join the Jihadis in Syria and elsewhere.

It’s like you’re eternally damned to be a fool… :lol:

So open mouth, insert both feet with size 3 shoes on! :lol:

ISIS Trained by US Government
http://guardianlv.com/2014/06/isis-trai ... overnment/

ISIS “Made in USA”. Iraq “Geopolitical Arsonists” Seek to Burn Region
http://www.globalresearch.ca/isis-made- ... on/5387475

US arming ISIS terrorists
http://www.presstv.com/detail/2014/06/2 ... errorists/

US-Saudi-funded ISIS spreads terror in Iraq
http://www.crescent-online.net/2014/06/ ... icles.html

How the West bankrolls Isis: Millions from governments and NGOs funding radical Islamic terror group
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/ ... 38217.html

Entire 1,000 man US backed and funded FSA outfit joins ISIS
http://topconservativenews.com/2014/07/ ... oins-isis/
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Re: WHY I SUPPORT ISRAEL

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Thu Aug 07, 2014 3:07 pm

Although I do not have a blanket-support approach to Israel's actions, I weigh this present situation up thus: which of the two countries/nations treats their own civilians better? Which of the two respect the human rights of their people? Which of the two regard equality of their women as central to their governance? Which of the two put forward the betterment of their citizens through education and acquisition of individual freedom?

Only through the total respect for their own people - first - can we then move forward and trust a foreign government. Trust them to not spread hatred because they do not practice hatred against their own people.

So, in this case, I wish the fairer, Israel, luck in securing its future for its people against an ocean of women-hating, individual-freedom suppressing, restrictive, brainwashed countries.
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Re: WHY I SUPPORT ISRAEL

Postby Paphitis » Thu Aug 07, 2014 3:19 pm

GreekIslandGirl wrote:Although I do not have a blanket-support approach to Israel's actions, I weigh this present situation up thus: which of the two countries/nations treats their own civilians better? Which of the two respect the human rights of their people? Which of the two regard equality of their women as central to their governance? Which of the two put forward the betterment of their citizens through education and acquisition of individual freedom?

Only through the total respect for their own people - first - can we then move forward and trust a foreign government. Trust them to not spread hatred because they do not practice hatred against their own people.

So, in this case, I wish the fairer, Israel, luck in securing its future for its people against an ocean of women-hating, individual-freedom suppressing, muslim-brainwashed countries.


At last! A fairly good post. 100%

If you look and analyze the history, you could quite easily ascertain that Israel is in fact the non aggressor. Every single war was actually started by the Arab countries. The 6 day war, they actually thought they were going to push the Jews into the Mediterranean. Not only did they not succeed, but they ended up losing the Golan Heights, West Bank and for a period they occupied the Suez from Egypt before retreating.

Unfortunately, the holy Jihad is predominately over Jerusalem, the Holy City. It's friggin holy to the Jews, the Christians and the Muslims. Probably, the Jews have the most rights over the city historically, because they were there first.

Israel, if you look at their actions, and their weapons procurements, is primarily focused at securing its own security.
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Re: WHY I SUPPORT ISRAEL

Postby Get Real! » Thu Aug 07, 2014 3:20 pm

GreekIslandGirl wrote:Although I do not have a blanket-support approach to Israel's actions, I weigh this present situation up thus: which of the two countries/nations treats their own civilians better? Which of the two respect the human rights of their people? Which of the two regard equality of their women as central to their governance? Which of the two put forward the betterment of their citizens through education and acquisition of individual freedom?

Only through the total respect for their own people - first - can we then move forward and trust a foreign government. Trust them to not spread hatred because they do not practice hatred against their own people.

So, in this case, I wish the fairer, Israel, luck in securing its future for its people against an ocean of women-hating, individual-freedom suppressing, restrictive, brainwashed countries.

The Israelis are backwards peasants who deceive many by displaying American taxpayer’s money and technology as their own!

Of course one look at their “moral values” (or complete lack thereof) and you soon see what they’re really made of! For example, they will happily murder their foe’s women and children in cold blood let alone worry about women’s or children’s rights!

They will happily sacrifice some of their citizens so as to attack neighbors under false pretences and the list of their debauchery goes on and on…

As for Israeli women’s “rights” you can read for yourself:

Jewish religious law threatening Israeli women
http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/op ... n-1.400910

Not only the ultra-Orthodox discriminate against women in Israel
http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/ne ... l-1.403578
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Re: WHY I SUPPORT ISRAEL

Postby Sotos » Thu Aug 07, 2014 3:23 pm

miltiades wrote:
Sotos wrote:Seems that you two are ignorant of our history and the sequence of events. When the British took over from the Ottomans we were celebrating. We considered them as our Christian European friends that would show some respect to us... we even fought on their side in WWII believing their fake promises. If all they wanted was us to be their allies they could have very easily have that. But they didn't want us to be their allies. They saw us and Cyprus like objects to be exploited and they treated us in a very hostile way. And by the way ... it seems that they did something similar to Palestine. I don't know their history very good, but from what I read the British took the Arabs on their side making faking promises to them in order to take Palestine from the Ottomans. Then they stabbed Palestinians on the back, allowing 1000s of Jews to enter Palestine and then they gave Palestine to the Jews!

Sotos, why so preoccupied with Palestine, Cyprus is what we are talking about not Afghanistan or Iran, Cyprus.
The British Empire acted just as any other super power would have done. LOOKED AFTER THEIR OWN INTERESTS.

Its time that we too concerned ourselves with OUR interests. Do you think that the Palestinians give a toss about Cyprus, I dont think so.
Let us forge closer alliances with nations that have POWER.


:roll: To forge an alliance we need common interests and both sides need to have something to gain from the alliance. The Anglo-Americans already have the SBAs, military facilities in Troodos etc... they STOLE everything they needed from Cyprus without giving anything in return. On top of that an alliance with Turkey is far more important to them.
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