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Re: The Crete Independence Referendum

Postby Demonax » Sun Sep 28, 2014 7:37 pm

Paphitis wrote:because the Scots had to make a serious decision with very serious consequences for them and their land.


And 45 per cent of Scots still voted to leave the UK. This was in the face of all the media, newspapers, big businesses and the main political parties and the whole UK establishment urging them to stay and threatening all sorts of terrible consequences if they became independent! And nearly half the Scots population still ignored them and voted to leave.

That is not a sign of faith in the United Kingdom. The narrow margin is the Scots giving the UK another chance to fix the democratic deficit in British politics. Next time the Scots will up and leave. Make no mistake.
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Re: The Crete Independence Referendum

Postby yialousa1971 » Sun Sep 28, 2014 11:42 pm

Cap wrote:
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Cap wrote:
Imagine being under Athens administration. Good gawd... no thanks. Cyprus can count itself lucky.


Imagine being under German administration. Good gawd... no thanks. Oh bloody hell. We are. Talk about bad luck.


Germany is a cultural and economic European superpower.
It's not a coincidence.


:lol: Germany is a ZOG occupied country. :roll:
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Re: The Crete Independence Referendum

Postby yialousa1971 » Sun Sep 28, 2014 11:50 pm

Get Real! wrote:I can assist Psoritis in this thread… but in exchange he has to admit that he has the IQ of a drunken aboriginal with a bottle firmly lodged up his bum.

PS: My offer is non negotiable.


Well at least you make us laugh feathers but you are the forum clown. :D Sadly Paphitis is just a fool. :mrgreen:
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Re: The Crete Independence Referendum

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Re: The Crete Independence Referendum

Postby Paphitis » Mon Sep 29, 2014 1:07 am

Get Real! wrote:I can assist Psoritis in this thread… but in exchange he has to admit that he has the IQ of a drunken aboriginal with a bottle firmly lodged up his bum.

PS: My offer is non negotiable.


Here, have another spliff and shut the f@#k up Bitch! :lol:

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Re: The Crete Independence Referendum

Postby Paphitis » Mon Sep 29, 2014 1:23 am

Demonax wrote:
Paphitis wrote:because the Scots had to make a serious decision with very serious consequences for them and their land.


And 45 per cent of Scots still voted to leave the UK. This was in the face of all the media, newspapers, big businesses and the main political parties and the whole UK establishment urging them to stay and threatening all sorts of terrible consequences if they became independent! And nearly half the Scots population still ignored them and voted to leave.

That is not a sign of faith in the United Kingdom. The narrow margin is the Scots giving the UK another chance to fix the democratic deficit in British politics. Next time the Scots will up and leave. Make no mistake.


You are completely wrong! The was no interference from the UK Establishment/Government and in fact they did well to stay out of the debate.

There were just as many newspapers in Scotland that supported a YES vote.

Also, the YES campaign was superior to the NO campaign. It was better run, organized, and their message was positive whilst the NO campaign was more negative. People identify with positivism as opposed to negativity - FACT.

So why not allow Crete to have its say and determine its own future? Why not have a poll and see just how much support they have in the community? Then, if they number 20%, then let them have a referendum and the same opportunity as the Scots did in running such a clever and positive campaign to vote for independence?

It will never happen I know, because Greece is not as democratic as the UK - Yes I know!
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Re: The Crete Independence Referendum

Postby kurupetos » Mon Sep 29, 2014 9:08 am

Oceanside50 wrote:Crete did get some form of autonomy a few years ago (trying to find article)

Did you find it? :lol:
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Re: The Crete Independence Referendum

Postby Sotos » Mon Sep 29, 2014 9:24 am

Paphitis wrote:
Demonax wrote:
Paphitis wrote:because the Scots had to make a serious decision with very serious consequences for them and their land.


And 45 per cent of Scots still voted to leave the UK. This was in the face of all the media, newspapers, big businesses and the main political parties and the whole UK establishment urging them to stay and threatening all sorts of terrible consequences if they became independent! And nearly half the Scots population still ignored them and voted to leave.

That is not a sign of faith in the United Kingdom. The narrow margin is the Scots giving the UK another chance to fix the democratic deficit in British politics. Next time the Scots will up and leave. Make no mistake.


You are completely wrong! The was no interference from the UK Establishment/Government and in fact they did well to stay out of the debate.

There were just as many newspapers in Scotland that supported a YES vote.

Also, the YES campaign was superior to the NO campaign. It was better run, organized, and their message was positive whilst the NO campaign was more negative. People identify with positivism as opposed to negativity - FACT.

So why not allow Crete to have its say and determine its own future? Why not have a poll and see just how much support they have in the community? Then, if they number 20%, then let them have a referendum and the same opportunity as the Scots did in running such a clever and positive campaign to vote for independence?

It will never happen I know, because Greece is not as democratic as the UK - Yes I know!


Is Australia democratic? It seems that there is wide-spread support among Tasmanians for independence. http://members.iinet.net.au/~rwatson1/tasindependence/ So why there is no referendum for the independence of Tasmania?
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Re: The Crete Independence Referendum

Postby Paphitis » Mon Sep 29, 2014 10:20 am

Sotos wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Demonax wrote:
Paphitis wrote:because the Scots had to make a serious decision with very serious consequences for them and their land.


And 45 per cent of Scots still voted to leave the UK. This was in the face of all the media, newspapers, big businesses and the main political parties and the whole UK establishment urging them to stay and threatening all sorts of terrible consequences if they became independent! And nearly half the Scots population still ignored them and voted to leave.

That is not a sign of faith in the United Kingdom. The narrow margin is the Scots giving the UK another chance to fix the democratic deficit in British politics. Next time the Scots will up and leave. Make no mistake.


You are completely wrong! The was no interference from the UK Establishment/Government and in fact they did well to stay out of the debate.

There were just as many newspapers in Scotland that supported a YES vote.

Also, the YES campaign was superior to the NO campaign. It was better run, organized, and their message was positive whilst the NO campaign was more negative. People identify with positivism as opposed to negativity - FACT.

So why not allow Crete to have its say and determine its own future? Why not have a poll and see just how much support they have in the community? Then, if they number 20%, then let them have a referendum and the same opportunity as the Scots did in running such a clever and positive campaign to vote for independence?

It will never happen I know, because Greece is not as democratic as the UK - Yes I know!


Is Australia democratic? It seems that there is wide-spread support among Tasmanians for independence. http://members.iinet.net.au/~rwatson1/tasindependence/ So why there is no referendum for the independence of Tasmania?


Well they will have to have a referendum of all States since it is a Federation.

When do they want to have it?
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Re: The Crete Independence Referendum

Postby Sotos » Mon Sep 29, 2014 11:56 am

Paphitis wrote:
Sotos wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Demonax wrote:
Paphitis wrote:because the Scots had to make a serious decision with very serious consequences for them and their land.


And 45 per cent of Scots still voted to leave the UK. This was in the face of all the media, newspapers, big businesses and the main political parties and the whole UK establishment urging them to stay and threatening all sorts of terrible consequences if they became independent! And nearly half the Scots population still ignored them and voted to leave.

That is not a sign of faith in the United Kingdom. The narrow margin is the Scots giving the UK another chance to fix the democratic deficit in British politics. Next time the Scots will up and leave. Make no mistake.


You are completely wrong! The was no interference from the UK Establishment/Government and in fact they did well to stay out of the debate.

There were just as many newspapers in Scotland that supported a YES vote.

Also, the YES campaign was superior to the NO campaign. It was better run, organized, and their message was positive whilst the NO campaign was more negative. People identify with positivism as opposed to negativity - FACT.

So why not allow Crete to have its say and determine its own future? Why not have a poll and see just how much support they have in the community? Then, if they number 20%, then let them have a referendum and the same opportunity as the Scots did in running such a clever and positive campaign to vote for independence?

It will never happen I know, because Greece is not as democratic as the UK - Yes I know!


Is Australia democratic? It seems that there is wide-spread support among Tasmanians for independence. http://members.iinet.net.au/~rwatson1/tasindependence/ So why there is no referendum for the independence of Tasmania?


Well they will have to have a referendum of all States since it is a Federation.

When do they want to have it?


Are you saying that the other states want independence too? Is Australia kept together by force against the will of the people :shock: How democratic is that? :?
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