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[kurupetos]

I suppose what has been syncretised is Hellenic philosophy with Orthodoxy, and Catholicism by extension. There is also Hermeticism. But the old Gods, the rituals, they have gone. Are we missing out on some powerful modes of interacting with the world?

I guess it's similar to the reason we don't use donkeys anymore... because we have vehicles.

But the drivers have regressed into Donkeys compared to their Ancient counterparts!

We had it all until we pissed our Ancient Civilization up the wall and adopted inferior Christianity.

What's inferior about it, you dufus?

Everything!

It's not Hellenic and it preaches an inferior and selfish philosophy on life!

Ancient Greek Philosophy dealt with all the moral compasses quite adequately in my opinion as well as all earthly issues, and they did it well. All that was needed was to further build on those principles rather than destroy the this Ancient civilization.

Christianity selfish? You are a complete ignorant idiot mate. Read the New Testament and come back for a real discussion.

[kurupetos]

I suppose what has been syncretised is Hellenic philosophy with Orthodoxy, and Catholicism by extension. There is also Hermeticism. But the old Gods, the rituals, they have gone. Are we missing out on some powerful modes of interacting with the world?

I guess it's similar to the reason we don't use donkeys anymore... because we have vehicles.

But the drivers have regressed into Donkeys compared to their Ancient counterparts!

We had it all until we pissed our Ancient Civilization up the wall and adopted inferior Christianity.

What's inferior about it, you dufus?

I'm surprised you're defending Christianity, Kurupetos, one of the miracles of Christ was to make us all Jews as we became sons and daughters of Adam. I haven't got a problem with the Old Testament as a meditation on the nature of the one God, nor the New Testament as a meditation on the nature of love. Both offer insights. But I wonder what more we could have been if we had not abandoned our own cosmology.

Christianity doesn't need anyone to defend it, tsuk. Adam and Eve are symbolic names for the first human beings created by God.

I don't know what you mean by "our own cosmology". Aristotle and Socrates believed on the existence of a single true God as a creator of the universe. Christianity perfected their theories and all true Greeks can only be Christians and not deluded atheist fools.

[GreekIslandGirl]

... Aristotle and Socrates believed on the existence of a single true God as a creator of the universe. Christianity perfected their theories and all true Greeks can only be Christians and not deluded atheist fools.

Spot on. The Greeks were not static. Orthodoxy/Christianity is the natural evolution from the Greek celestial-philosophical system. Progress.

[repulsewarrior]

...the book, "life of Pi", comes to mind, with that exquisite recollection in the square of the three clerics, quite different, quite demanding, thwarted by this child who loves (period), and who has a strong connection with the depths of a soul that has remained pure.

dear Mr. O'brian, where ever you are, i hope the lights that shine bright in the sky wherein you find yourself, warm you...

[repulsewarrior]

kurupetos wrote:
... Aristotle and Socrates believed on the existence of a single true God as a creator of the universe. Christianity perfected their theories and all true Greeks can only be Christians and not deluded atheist fools.

...so too Darwin, because he recognised that evolution within a greater system is pretty clear, that 'natural selection' is not 'random' , it is another affirmation that no God cannot exist.

...even the 'Big Bang' now that its center has been found cannot be explained, without the assumption that there is no, no God.

...consider, with our birth death begins, show me a birth that does not end so, even mountains return to sand (and into the magma), when you die therefore, isn't it reasonable to assume we return to something everlasting (from where we came from)? consider the rock that is pitched or hewn, does its life end as a rock beyond this being transformed, and what of the planet made of rock, (where it will return) is it too a living thing, its rock is a crust we know little about, and inside, the core beyond beyond us, its mantle that boils, is it not unlike other planets, like cells, or atoms, always evolving, beyond an easy comprehension, as a quantity not easy to count, and to keep them just as they are (i like to think, nearly) impossible. I believe rocks sing, too, i believe we share with all things the harmony vibrations create, and i act accordingly, because if we listen, we can hear what other creatures hear/feel, beyond the sounds we make; lowly that we are, trapped within reason, this Grace.

[Paphitis]

Christianity selfish? You are a complete ignorant idiot mate. Read the New Testament and come back for a real discussion.

Yes it is selfish.

Anything that preaches an afterlife is selfish.

Whatever happened to just being good without expecting praise or reward?

You need to read some books and expand your horizons Kurupetos beyond the shit the Church jas brainwashed you with, at the expense of Hellenism I may add!

[Paphitis]

... Aristotle and Socrates believed on the existence of a single true God as a creator of the universe. Christianity perfected their theories and all true Greeks can only be Christians and not deluded atheist fools.

Spot on. The Greeks were not static. Orthodoxy/Christianity is the natural evolution from the Greek celestial-philosophical system. Progress.

Orthodoxy were very quick to scratch the eyes out of all the Hellenic Sculptures found at Historic Sites and burn the Athenian Library.

Not only were they not static, but they regressed! BIG TIME!

I suppose you're a Christian then since you deem it as progress. I deem it as regression!

[Paphitis]

kurupetos wrote:
... Aristotle and Socrates believed on the existence of a single true God as a creator of the universe. Christianity perfected their theories and all true Greeks can only be Christians and not deluded atheist fools.

...so too Darwin, because he recognised that evolution within a greater system is pretty clear, that 'natural selection' is not 'random' , it is another affirmation that no God cannot exist.

...even the 'Big Bang' now that its center has been found cannot be explained, without the assumption that there is no, no God.

...consider, with our birth death begins, show me a birth that does not end so, even mountains return to sand (and into the magma), when you die therefore, isn't it reasonable to assume we return to something everlasting (from where we came from)? consider the rock that is pitched or hewn, does its life end as a rock beyond this being transformed, and what of the planet made of rock, (where it will return) is it too a living thing, its rock is a crust we know little about, and inside, the core beyond beyond us, its mantle that boils, is it not unlike other planets, like cells, or atoms, always evolving, beyond an easy comprehension, as a quantity not easy to count, and to keep them just as they are (i like to think, nearly) impossible. I believe rocks sing, too, i believe we share with all things the harmony vibrations create, and i act accordingly, because if we listen, we can hear what other creatures hear/feel, beyond the sounds we make; lowly that we are, trapped within reason, this Grace.

You return to everlasting nothing!

[repulsewarrior]

...and where do you return to?

[Paphitis]

...and where do you return to?

To the Elysian fields or Hades!