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[repulsewarrior]

...do you mean everlasting nothing?

[Paphitis]

...do you mean everlasting nothing?

RW,

I am not sure what exists after death. I have my opinion but and you are of course welcome to your own.

But there does not need to be anything. Where were we before conception? that is probably where we will be after death.

Religion doesn't do it for me I'm afraid. It's all man made nonsense and one day we will go beyond it and that day is soon.

As far as philosophy is concerned, i always wished that I was more familiar with the Ancient Greek texts. It's never too late to start.

here you have the Pillars of Western Civilization.

I would much prefer to be familiar with the Classics than to be familiar with the Old testament or Bible. Christianity is no different to Islam. The scriptures are written and interpreted by man. They can be misinterpreted by man, hence the rise of evil Jihad and a number of insane and ludicrous cults who prey on the vulnerable in the USA which is the bastion of religious freedom.

The Ancient Greek texts never claimed to be all knowing but within them you can find great insight into human morality - if you think you need to be told how to be good (which ultimately is not necessary).

Who can honestly say with their hand on heart that the Old Testament is inspirational, or heart warming. It's not. It's the most disgusting document and the Bible is very little improvement other than certain parts which are alleged to be the words of Christ.

The Greeks had texts that were far superior, inspiring, and well intended.

[repulsewarrior]

...so, the anything is nothing, or the nothing is anything?

[kurupetos]

Americans... silly sods

[kurupetos]

kurupetos wrote:
... Aristotle and Socrates believed on the existence of a single true God as a creator of the universe. Christianity perfected their theories and all true Greeks can only be Christians and not deluded atheist fools.

...so too Darwin, because he recognised that evolution within a greater system is pretty clear, that 'natural selection' is not 'random' , it is another affirmation that no God cannot exist.

...even the 'Big Bang' now that its center has been found cannot be explained, without the assumption that there is no, no God.

...consider, with our birth death begins, show me a birth that does not end so, even mountains return to sand (and into the magma), when you die therefore, isn't it reasonable to assume we return to something everlasting (from where we came from)? consider the rock that is pitched or hewn, does its life end as a rock beyond this being transformed, and what of the planet made of rock, (where it will return) is it too a living thing, its rock is a crust we know little about, and inside, the core beyond beyond us, its mantle that boils, is it not unlike other planets, like cells, or atoms, always evolving, beyond an easy comprehension, as a quantity not easy to count, and to keep them just as they are (i like to think, nearly) impossible. I believe rocks sing, too, i believe we share with all things the harmony vibrations create, and i act accordingly, because if we listen, we can hear what other creatures hear/feel, beyond the sounds we make; lowly that we are, trapped within reason, this Grace.

There is no post-Greek era philosophy, RW... as there are no post-Jesus Christ prophets.

[kurupetos]

Christianity selfish? You are a complete ignorant idiot mate. Read the New Testament and come back for a real discussion.

Yes it is selfish.

Anything that preaches an afterlife is selfish.

Whatever happened to just being good without expecting praise or reward?

You need to read some books and expand your horizons Kurupetos beyond the shit the Church jas brainwashed you with, at the expense of Hellenism I may add!

There is no afterlife, but a continuation of one's life in a different form, without the limitations imposed by your body.

There is no materialistic reward in Christianity (like Islam). Read the new testament...

[Paphitis]

Christianity selfish? You are a complete ignorant idiot mate. Read the New Testament and come back for a real discussion.

Yes it is selfish.

Anything that preaches an afterlife is selfish.

Whatever happened to just being good without expecting praise or reward?

You need to read some books and expand your horizons Kurupetos beyond the shit the Church jas brainwashed you with, at the expense of Hellenism I may add!

There is no afterlife, but a continuation of one's life in a different form, without the limitations imposed by your body.

There is no materialistic reward in Christianity (like Islam). Read the new testament...

No thanks! Not interested in reading any false dogma. It's just a waste of time.

How do you know there is an afterlife? because that is what man wrote in the Old and New Testament?

Look, the Orthodox Church is responsible for the brainwashing of Generations of Greeks. They have not been truthful about their history either. For instance, I bet they do not teach about the Byzantine Genocide against Hellenes, the looting and destruction of historically significant Hellenic Sites and the destruction and burning of very significant Hellenic Literature.

I shall try and educate you about this Genocide by opening a dedicated thread about it.

[repulsewarrior]

...remembering tsuk, (twice this week i have stumbled upon something he wrote).

...and the flying cannibal (read: kurupetos), where did he go?