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Let's face it: the withdraw from Iraq was premature

Postby Paphitis » Sat Feb 28, 2015 4:58 am

All you idiots that were asking for America's withdrawal from Iraq need to eat some humble pie.

It's proven that the withdrawal was premature and that US Forces should have remained until such time as the ISF were able to protect Iraq's sovereignty and maintain security over all its territory.

Now, we have to go back in to fight this hideous DAESH! :roll:

So all the tree huggers just STFU because you idiots are responsible! :lol:
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Re: Let's face it: the withdraw from Iraq was premature

Postby Garavnoss » Sat Feb 28, 2015 11:15 am

Paphitis wrote:All you idiots that were asking for America's withdrawal from Iraq need to eat some humble pie.

It's proven that the withdrawal was premature and that US Forces should have remained until such time as the ISF were able to protect Iraq's sovereignty and maintain security over all its territory.

Now, we have to go back in to fight this hideous DAESH! :roll:

So all the tree huggers just STFU because you idiots are responsible! :lol:




Not enough blood spilled to slake your thirst for it ?, not enough innocent civilians and young children slaughtered under the false premise that life would be better for them in the future.

The Russians got their arses whupped in Afghanistan (but wont admit it), The Yanks had to almost BEG to be allowed to withdraw from Iraq since their root out was blocked, so they paid billions of dollars to the Mahdi army to let them go, they also got their arse whupped (but wont admit it), the Brits got their arses whupped in Afghanistan (but wont admit it), NOW, it's the ANZACS turn, they didn't get enough at Gallipoli apparently.

Hang on to your hats, I think another whupping is about to begin but it wont be the politicians that get it, they'll be too busy sipping
Port and cashing in on the suffering of the oppressed whilst young soldiers are dying in a foreign land.

Seen it all before and cannot bring myself to enjoy the prospect, unlike some.
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Re: Let's face it: the withdraw from Iraq was premature

Postby Paphitis » Sat Feb 28, 2015 11:18 am

Garavnoss wrote:
Paphitis wrote:All you idiots that were asking for America's withdrawal from Iraq need to eat some humble pie.

It's proven that the withdrawal was premature and that US Forces should have remained until such time as the ISF were able to protect Iraq's sovereignty and maintain security over all its territory.

Now, we have to go back in to fight this hideous DAESH! :roll:

So all the tree huggers just STFU because you idiots are responsible! :lol:




Not enough blood spilled to slake your thirst for it ?, not enough innocent civilians and young children slaughtered under the false premise that life would be better for them in the future.

The Russians got their arses whupped in Afghanistan (but wont admit it), The Yanks had to almost BEG to be allowed to withdraw from Iraq since their root out was blocked, so they paid billions of dollars to the Mahdi army to let them go, they also got their arse whupped (but wont admit it), the Brits got their arses whupped in Afghanistan (but wont admit it), NOW, it's the ANZACS turn, they didn't get enough at Gallipoli apparently.

Hang on to your hats, I think another whupping is about to begin but it wont be the politicians that get it, they'll be too busy sipping
Port and cashing in on the suffering of the oppressed whilst young soldiers are dying in a foreign land.

Seen it all before and cannot bring myself to enjoy the prospect, unlike some.


Less blood would be spilled if the Americans stayed on until the ISF were capable to successful defend their territorial integrity.

America had a responsibility of ensuring that this occurred and they let the Iraqis down on that score. That is the truth.
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Re: Let's face it: the withdraw from Iraq was premature

Postby Garavnoss » Sat Feb 28, 2015 11:23 am

"The truth is a commodity that must be protected by a bodyguard of lies".

Famous words by Sir Winston Churchill (prior to his Knighthood).
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Re: Let's face it: the withdraw from Iraq was premature

Postby Paphitis » Sat Feb 28, 2015 12:59 pm

Garavnoss wrote:"The truth is a commodity that must be protected by a bodyguard of lies".

Famous words by Sir Winston Churchill (prior to his Knighthood).



I don't think you care any more for the Aussie or Kiwi Diggers than you do for the innocent Kurds, Yazidis, SHIA, Turkmen or anyone else that would be targetted by the hideous cutthroats.

To stand by and do nothing will allow these injustices to continue and the West would be complicit.
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Re: Let's face it: the withdraw from Iraq was premature

Postby Garavnoss » Sat Feb 28, 2015 2:38 pm

Paphitis wrote:
Garavnoss wrote:"The truth is a commodity that must be protected by a bodyguard of lies".

Famous words by Sir Winston Churchill (prior to his Knighthood).



I don't think you care any more for the Aussie or Kiwi Diggers than you do for the innocent Kurds, Yazidis, SHIA, Turkmen or anyone else that would be targetted by the hideous cutthroats.

To stand by and do nothing will allow these injustices to continue and the West would be complicit.



If the West would mind it's own business and leave other nations to conduct their affairs in their own way, the world would be a more peaceful place, a little more concern for the moral standards (and other) of their own territories might be a good starting point.

Handing over territories to others (at a whim) is a sure fire method of creating disharmony and we've seen plenty of that in the past.

Those that stand up to resist (or fight) the impositions of bullying powers and (what THEY see as regressive rather than progressive changes to their established cultures) have my full support and they are entitled to resort to whatever means they deem necessary to achieve their objectives.

It is only extreme arrogance to suppose that the Western culture is superior to Eastern (or even African tribal) cultures, leave these people alone, they are as entitled to adopt THEIR ways of life as we are ours, albeit that there may be areas in OURS that could do with a good deal of re-structuring.

As to complicity, the West is already complicit in several arenas of conflict in many regions of the world, precisely due to it.
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Re: Let's face it: the withdraw from Iraq was premature

Postby Lordo » Sat Feb 28, 2015 2:41 pm

Paphitis wrote:All you idiots that were asking for America's withdrawal from Iraq need to eat some humble pie.

It's proven that the withdrawal was premature and that US Forces should have remained until such time as the ISF were able to protect Iraq's sovereignty and maintain security over all its territory.

Now, we have to go back in to fight this hideous DAESH! :roll:

So all the tree huggers just STFU because you idiots are responsible! :lol:

are you so stupid to believe that america went to iraq to help iraqi people in anyway. were you born in a barn or somefink.
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Re: Let's face it: the withdraw from Iraq was premature

Postby Paphitis » Sat Feb 28, 2015 3:19 pm

Lordo wrote:
Paphitis wrote:All you idiots that were asking for America's withdrawal from Iraq need to eat some humble pie.

It's proven that the withdrawal was premature and that US Forces should have remained until such time as the ISF were able to protect Iraq's sovereignty and maintain security over all its territory.

Now, we have to go back in to fight this hideous DAESH! :roll:

So all the tree huggers just STFU because you idiots are responsible! :lol:

are you so stupid to believe that america went to iraq to help iraqi people in anyway. were you born in a barn or somefink.


Maybe not but they certainly didn't go to Iraq to destroy them and we generally do feel that the Iraqi people can do without DAESH just like we could do without them too.

We do not persecute minority groups or go around killing people for the religious beliefs.

We may be responsible for their suffering today but we are going to help them gain control of their country and that is the least we can do.
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Re: Let's face it: the withdraw from Iraq was premature

Postby Paphitis » Sat Feb 28, 2015 3:21 pm

Garavnoss wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Garavnoss wrote:"The truth is a commodity that must be protected by a bodyguard of lies".

Famous words by Sir Winston Churchill (prior to his Knighthood).



I don't think you care any more for the Aussie or Kiwi Diggers than you do for the innocent Kurds, Yazidis, SHIA, Turkmen or anyone else that would be targetted by the hideous cutthroats.

To stand by and do nothing will allow these injustices to continue and the West would be complicit.



If the West would mind it's own business and leave other nations to conduct their affairs in their own way, the world would be a more peaceful place, a little more concern for the moral standards (and other) of their own territories might be a good starting point.

Handing over territories to others (at a whim) is a sure fire method of creating disharmony and we've seen plenty of that in the past.

Those that stand up to resist (or fight) the impositions of bullying powers and (what THEY see as regressive rather than progressive changes to their established cultures) have my full support and they are entitled to resort to whatever means they deem necessary to achieve their objectives.

It is only extreme arrogance to suppose that the Western culture is superior to Eastern (or even African tribal) cultures, leave these people alone, they are as entitled to adopt THEIR ways of life as we are ours, albeit that there may be areas in OURS that could do with a good deal of re-structuring.

As to complicity, the West is already complicit in several arenas of conflict in many regions of the world, precisely due to it.


It's the Iraqi People being bullied by the cutthroats and we will help them so that the Iraqi Government can run its own internal affairs as it pleases.
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Re: Let's face it: the withdraw from Iraq was premature

Postby Garavnoss » Sat Feb 28, 2015 4:24 pm

Paphitis wrote:
Garavnoss wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Garavnoss wrote:"The truth is a commodity that must be protected by a bodyguard of lies".

Famous words by Sir Winston Churchill (prior to his Knighthood).



I don't think you care any more for the Aussie or Kiwi Diggers than you do for the innocent Kurds, Yazidis, SHIA, Turkmen or anyone else that would be targetted by the hideous cutthroats.

To stand by and do nothing will allow these injustices to continue and the West would be complicit.



If the West would mind it's own business and leave other nations to conduct their affairs in their own way, the world would be a more peaceful place, a little more concern for the moral standards (and other) of their own territories might be a good starting point.

Handing over territories to others (at a whim) is a sure fire method of creating disharmony and we've seen plenty of that in the past.

Those that stand up to resist (or fight) the impositions of bullying powers and (what THEY see as regressive rather than progressive changes to their established cultures) have my full support and they are entitled to resort to whatever means they deem necessary to achieve their objectives.

It is only extreme arrogance to suppose that the Western culture is superior to Eastern (or even African tribal) cultures, leave these people alone, they are as entitled to adopt THEIR ways of life as we are ours, albeit that there may be areas in OURS that could do with a good deal of re-structuring.

As to complicity, the West is already complicit in several arenas of conflict in many regions of the world, precisely due to it.


It's the Iraqi People being bullied by the cutthroats and we will help them so that the Iraqi Government can run its own internal affairs as it pleases.



I'm not going to reply to this counter reply in any length other than to inform you that it greatly disappointed me.
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