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Re: In Praise of the Dead

Postby Paphitis » Wed Mar 07, 2018 1:12 pm

miltiades wrote:Yep !!
Fuck off stupid boy!!
By the way did you not a few years back support the issue of war with Turkey saying that our CNG alone ....can take Turkey on ?
Si General we do not need your ....troops.


Cyprus National Guard is able to do many things with its current capabilities, including fight a war against the existing Turkish Forces in Cyprus. Yes that is very correct.

You are an idiot for being dismissive.

Did you know, that the CNG is actually larger than The Australian defense Forces when fully mobilized. And yet, Australia with less personnel than Cyprus is able to attack Turkey and project power, but Turkey can't hit back all that easily. The same with the Israeli Defence Forces. The IDF is one fifth the size of the Turkish Military but would absolutely demolish Turkey and Iran in days. In fact, Australia and Israel are probably the 2 most capable on the planet.

Kurdish Peshmerga, YPK and YPG have been fighting a war with Turkey for several decades and they hold their own. The CNG has many advantages in Cyprus which could result in Turkey's defeat.

The truth is, such a war is a lottery, and yes, the CNG can defeat Turkey comprehensively in Cyprus. But Cyprus will need Foreign aid and intervention at some point.

Now whether Cypriots want to do that or not is up to them. This is the only way to achieve a solution. There would not be a solution we would be happy with otherwise.

But it isn't up to me. It's a really big call and a big gamble too. Hundreds of kids will get killed, if not thousands. there is no guarantee of a win. It could go pear-shaped. Would I be happy to fight? Sure I would. Would I be happy to let my Son fight? Probably not! Not fight Turkey. But I would be happy for him to be in The Australian Defence Force and even be sent to Afghanistan or Middle East because chances are he will not be killed wearing an Australian Uniform.
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Re: In Praise of the Dead

Postby miltiades » Wed Mar 07, 2018 1:25 pm

What a bizzare statement. CNG can ....defeat Turkey. Be a realist General. Cyprus , a tiny nation can defeat the second largest army in NATO . My God you are more stupid than you have thus far portrayed your self to be.
What a fucking Plonker !!
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Re: In Praise of the Dead

Postby Paphitis » Wed Mar 07, 2018 1:32 pm

miltiades wrote:What a bizzare statement. CNG can ....defeat Turkey. Be a realist General. Cyprus , a tiny nation can defeat the second largest army in NATO . My God you are more stupid than you have thus far portrayed your self to be.
What a fucking Plonker !!


I am a realist. You are just an idiotic Malakas!

There have been many more lesser forces that have actually had Turkey on the ropes, and that is in Turkey itself.

Even now in Syria, you are going on about Turkey in Afrin fighting the Kurds. But the truth is, the Kurds are fucking the Turks over and sending them home in body bags.

The Kurds are not even a nation, but they do have Coalition support only in the last couple of years. Before then, they had no support from the West and were still fucking Turkey.

The CNG is actually quite a capable military for Cyprus and they can win. If there was no chance of winning, then why even have a CNG?

Turkey isn't that strong. It's armour is antiquated. The CNG Mechanized is far better with its 3rd gen Russian Tanks and French AMX. The CNG isn't something you can just dismiss especially on their own turf. They are pretty damn strong actually.

They can win alright brain-dead petsogero! Malakas!
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Re: In Praise of the Dead

Postby miltiades » Wed Mar 07, 2018 2:04 pm

Do your research idiot.
You have become the laughing stock of the forum.
Cyprus, which has no fighter planes, can actually, on its own, defeat the second most powerful NATO member nation.
Were you born fucking stupid?
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Re: In Praise of the Dead

Postby Paphitis » Wed Mar 07, 2018 2:17 pm

miltiades wrote:Do your research idiot.
You have become the laughing stock of the forum. invasion.
Cyprus, which has no fighter planes, can actually, on its own, defeat the second most powerful NATO member nation.
Were you born fucking stupid?


You are a fucking idiot!

What research do you want me to provide you? Do you want a friggin Nintendo Game Turkey Vs Cyprus idiot? Why don't you start a poll? :roll:

There is no research than can convince you if you can't use your brain or have any common sense.

mate, the Taliban were fighting the Americans, Brits, and Aussies. They even came up against our most elite SAS, and we had jets over the top and all the Air Support you can need. But they gave a good fight. Even with all our technology and training. War isn't something you can just predict. 2 + 2 does not = 4. You can have a minnow, defeat a superpower. Just because you have a huge military, doesn't mean that you will prevail. There are so many factors. Such as, the CNG is on its own turf, with a friendly population. Turkey is on foreign land, with a hostile population. the island is also small, and turkey can't resupply that easily. The logistics just are not favorable for Turkey.

The same with ISIL.

The Kurds are a huge headache for Turkey. Turkey is unable to beat the Kurds. It will not beat them.

The Cyprus National Guard is actually very well armed with great capability. In fact, their weapons are better than Turkey's. Turkey still only has the M-48 Patton Tanks which they used in the 1974 invasion. This is a Tank first built in 1953 and first saw action in Korea.

The Americans will not allow Turkey to use American Equipment for illegal purposed, such as in the occupation of Cyprus. it has threatened Turkey with sanctions in the past, merely for just using American F-16 aircraft in Cypriot Airspace. Turkey has to walk a tightrope, and the Americans have a lot of leverage too.

This is what the M48s need to overcome:

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Re: In Praise of the Dead

Postby miltiades » Wed Mar 07, 2018 2:22 pm

Beyond a shadow of a doubt you are the biggest most laughable moron this forum has ever had. Now.fuck off go fight your war in Syria you fucking idiot.
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Re: In Praise of the Dead

Postby Paphitis » Wed Mar 07, 2018 2:25 pm

miltiades wrote:Beyond a shadow of a doubt you are the biggest most laughable moron this forum has ever had. Now.fuck off go fight your war in Syria you fucking idiot.


Right back at ya silly old fart.

You absolutely have no friggin idea. Go do some research. The CNG is a very strong force. it will not be fighting with the Entire Turkish Military, but invariably just with the Turkish Forces that are already here plus another 5 or 10,000 in re-reinforcements from Turkey because that is all it will be able to transport to Cyprus in a reasonable time-frame.

As to the war in Syria. You are the fucking idiot who claimed victory after Alepo. I told you there were no victors in Syria. And furthermore idiot, you disrespect the Coalition when it was the Coalition that defeated ISIL (not Russia) and it is the Coalition that is helping Turkey's enemies (Kurds).

Russia did NOTHING at all against ISIL. It was the Coalition that beat ISIL in Iraq, and it was the Coalition that liberated Raqa. All Russia did was strengthen the regime and fight other rebels like FSA and others and liberate Palmyra (the only time they fought with ISIL). If it wasn't for the Coalition, ISIL will still be giving you nightmares at night with their bushy beards!

Just remember idiot. The Coalition is some 15 countries. It includes the EU within its ranks and such countries as France, Denmark, Germany, Netherlands, Canada, New Zealand, and Australia. Wat does that tell you? Especially when on the other side you have Russia, Syria and Iran.

You've lost it old man! :roll:
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Re: In Praise of the Dead

Postby miltiades » Wed Mar 07, 2018 2:37 pm

The ....coalition !!! Another classic fro General wewewe !! The coaltion achieved fuck all. Didn't the coalition demand the removal of Assad ? What a surprise, he is still there. Did you not say " We will never let Aleppo fall ? "

Boy you are so wet behind the ears !!
You got Syria wrong, just a few minutes ago you said the CNG can defeat Turkey, now you have changed it ti Turkish forces in Cyprus. Glad you are not....in charge of our forces, or are you ??
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Re: In Praise of the Dead

Postby Paphitis » Wed Mar 07, 2018 2:42 pm

miltiades wrote:The ....coalition !!! Another classic fro General wewewe !! The coaltion achieved fuck all. Didn't the coalition demand the removal of Assad ? What a surprise, he is still there. Did you not say " We will never let Aleppo fall ? "

Boy you are so wet behind the ears !!
You got Syria wrong, just a few minutes ago you said the CNG can defeat Turkey, now you have changed it ti Turkish forces in Cyprus. Glad you are not....in charge of our forces, or are you ??


That's nonsense. The Coalition freed Raqa, and is responsible for the comprehensive defeat of ISIL. Not Russia.

The Coalition was responsible for defeating ISIL on its own. There was very nearly zero input from Russia until they liberated Palmyra from ISIL and that is all they did. They did not fight ISIL anywhere else. It was just the Coalition fighting ISIL. Everyone knows this.

The only thing Russia achieved against ISIL was to free Palmyra which was just some Ancient ruins in the desert and it did that for the camera alone. there was no ISIL in Alepo or anywhere else. Coalition has the kochania over Raqa now. We are in charge there now. Not Russia or Syria but the Kurds and the Coalition. You don't like it do you old fart?

Raqa is in our possession, so you better rethink again old fart. Coalition took the ISIL Capital down and defeated ISIL. That is what the history books will show.

You have it all wrong. When Alepo fell over a year ago, you were celebrating. You were saying its over, but here we are still. Coalition is still in Syria even though ISIL has been defeated by us. Why? You work it out. But let's just say, it isn't over yet. For the Coalition to be in Syria, it means that the Coalition has plans for Syria and perhaps for the Kurds.

Syria had a chance for a settlement once upon a time.
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Re: In Praise of the Dead

Postby repulsewarrior » Wed Mar 07, 2018 8:01 pm

...please take your arguing somewhere else, don't you think it is disrespectful to the people we remember in this thread?
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