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Re: No Guarantors ...!!!

Postby Paphitis » Fri Jun 12, 2015 6:26 pm

Lordo wrote:
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Nikitas wrote:"fully militarize all the Aegean islands!"

They already are. They have been since 1974 and the reason given is that no treaty can displace the right of self defence.

and can they defend themselves if terggy decided to take them.
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Try it and see, put your money where your mouth is, if you have the balls.


They have never had the balls to fight Greece.

They only start wars they know they will win. A war with Greece is too much of a gamble for them because Greece is no pushover. Take a look at their military. They can hold their own.

in 74 they mobilised and moved troops to trakya, and then what happened. why did they not do us a favour and sort out terggy then. what is the difference between then and now.


The question should be why Turkey didn't sort Greece out? Even at Imia you landed troops but then had to leave with your tail between your legs because Greece was about to turn the joint into glass at first light. And one of the extraction helicopters was shot down too but Turkey said it was due to mechanical failure to save face.
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Re: No Guarantors ...!!!

Postby Lordo » Fri Jun 12, 2015 6:40 pm

what for.
they came and rescued the tcs so you could not harm them, it up to greece to take it further if she had balls. but allas only a fanny.
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Re: No Guarantors ...!!!

Postby Nikitas » Fri Jun 12, 2015 7:01 pm

"what is the difference between then and now."

Ten frigates, 35 missile boats, 7 submarines, 250 jet fighters, a totally reorganised defence industry that makes and exports drones, artillery and a whole bunch of other things that did not exist then. It would be totally dumb to underestimate the situation.
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Re: No Guarantors ...!!!

Postby Paphitis » Fri Jun 12, 2015 7:10 pm

Lordo wrote:what for.
they came and rescued the tcs so you could not harm them, it up to greece to take it further if she had balls. but allas only a fanny.


I don't think Greece is into a major adventure but at the same time, Turkey could be up shit creek if it goes on an adventure in the Aegean.

It is after all a Greek pond and their military is in control and has the upper hand in my opinion.

But Turkey can disagree and try its luck. So, are they feeling lucky, punk?
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Re: No Guarantors ...!!!

Postby Mustiejodu » Sat Jun 13, 2015 12:12 am

I am just amazed at all of you with all this ego.While your at it Why don't you all compare your dick sizes? I can't believe what I am reading. Your all comparing how many jets you have and how many this and that who has. So fucking childish. Nahnahnahnahnah my one is better than yours. What a load of nonsense. Why. Does it end with having war. Is this how you sort a problem out by killing each other even more and making some one a widow or fatherless. Is this the solution you all want ? This forum is begining to suck big time
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Re: No Guarantors ...!!!

Postby Lordo » Sat Jun 13, 2015 12:34 am

Mustiejodu wrote:I am just amazed at all of you with all this ego.While your at it Why don't you all compare your dick sizes? I can't believe what I am reading. Your all comparing how many jets you have and how many this and that who has. So fucking childish. Nahnahnahnahnah my one is better than yours. What a load of nonsense. Why. Does it end with having war. Is this how you sort a problem out by killing each other even more and making some one a widow or fatherless. Is this the solution you all want ? This forum is begining to suck big time

quite the reverse musti. the new cyprus will be almost demilitarised. a token gesture of an army. it makes total sense. there is no way cyprus can defend herself against anybody so why bother to waste money for an army. wasted money, better spent on education and health.
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Re: No Guarantors ...!!!

Postby Paphitis » Sat Jun 13, 2015 2:40 am

Lordo wrote:
Mustiejodu wrote:I am just amazed at all of you with all this ego.While your at it Why don't you all compare your dick sizes? I can't believe what I am reading. Your all comparing how many jets you have and how many this and that who has. So fucking childish. Nahnahnahnahnah my one is better than yours. What a load of nonsense. Why. Does it end with having war. Is this how you sort a problem out by killing each other even more and making some one a widow or fatherless. Is this the solution you all want ? This forum is begining to suck big time

quite the reverse musti. the new cyprus will be almost demilitarised. a token gesture of an army. it makes total sense. there is no way cyprus can defend herself against anybody so why bother to waste money for an army. wasted money, better spent on education and health.


No it does not make any sense at all.

They will not be demilitarized and have the right of defence even under the old Zurich Agreement. It's not just about defending yourself from invasion. A military has a much greater role than this from Border Security to Counter Terrorism.

You're argument is pretty silly. You could argue that if invaded, Australia can't defend itself. But it doesn't stop them from having a military. Malta has one too.
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Re: No Guarantors ...!!!

Postby Mustiejodu » Sat Jun 13, 2015 8:21 am

Our security which should be a joint security. It's main function is to protect all peace loving cypriots from the extremists that are within our communities. SOME OF WHO ARE AMONGST THIS FORUM.
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Re: No Guarantors ...!!!

Postby B25 » Sat Jun 13, 2015 9:31 am

Musti, lie down, take a break have a kitkat, you are stressing yourself out with all this extremist talk. chill bro.
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Re: No Guarantors ...!!!

Postby Kikapu » Sat Jun 13, 2015 3:54 pm

Mustiejodu wrote:Our security which should be a joint security. It's main function is to protect all peace loving cypriots from the extremists that are within our communities. SOME OF WHO ARE AMONGST THIS FORUM.


I have said this many times already, so hear goes one more time. The best security the TCs can have in EU Cyprus is, True Democracy, Human Rights, Rule of Law, EU Principles, Equal Cypriot Citizenship and International Law. Unless the TCs accept and embrace the above principles, they can never feel safe, because, if the TCs want to take away others rights so that they can have more, soon or later, 1963 will happen all over again. The ball for Cyprus peace really is in the TCs corner.
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