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Re: Mycenaean boats sailing from Greece to Cyprus? Not a cha

Postby Nikitas » Mon Oct 19, 2015 11:43 pm

The ancient ships were surprisingly sophisticated. Ask a nautical designer, engineer, and then spout crap.

The Kyrenia ship was built in Greece, how do you think it got to Kyrenia where it was sunk by pirates? And how did these pirates pursue it and attack it if not by other ships?

Kalymnian sponge divers worked off the coast of Paphos, arriving there with their boats, the most usual type being around 10 or 12 meters. Visit the sponge museum in Paphos, look at the photos. The Kalymnian trehantiri, (no GPS) is a lot smaller than ancient trading ships.

You are a typical land lubber, stick to donkeys. Ships are complicated things.
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Re: Mycenaean boats sailing from Greece to Cyprus? Not a cha

Postby Sotos » Tue Oct 20, 2015 12:51 am

GR is talking crap as always. If the Greeks couldn't get to Cyprus (and there are far easier ways to get to Cyprus from mainland Greece than a direct line from Crete), then how did the Chirokitians get to Cyprus 1000s of years earlier with primitive prehistoric technology? If we follow GRs logic then Cyprus should have remained uninhabited until the invention of GPS :lol: GRs... on a normal day you can easily make that 11km trip from Turkey to Farmakonisi with this boat:

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... as long as there are 1-2 people on it, and not 10!
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Re: Mycenaean boats sailing from Greece to Cyprus? Not a cha

Postby Sotos » Tue Oct 20, 2015 1:04 am

umit07 wrote:
Sotos wrote:The "genetic pool" is constantly mixing because we multiply with sex, not mitoses, and incest is generally avoided. Nationhood is of course an idea... not something that can be detected in the DNA. But it is an idea based on commonalities among people... such as same language, religion, culture, interests etc. It is not something random.


I never said that it was random, commonalities make it easier to form a group identity. What I find weird is the unwavering allegiance many GC's have to Greece, despite being short changed by them a number of times.


Apart from the coup (done by dictators) what are the other times? And what would Cyprus gain by destroying our alliance with Greece? Unlike the relationship you have with Turkey, Greece doesn't impose anything on us but supports our cause as much as they can. What we need is to create more alliances, not destroy the ones we already have!
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Re: Mycenaean boats sailing from Greece to Cyprus? Not a cha

Postby Oceanside50 » Tue Oct 20, 2015 1:17 am

Bravo re Sotiri... :D
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Re: Mycenaean boats sailing from Greece to Cyprus? Not a cha

Postby DrCyprus » Tue Oct 20, 2015 1:24 pm

A beautiful article on this topic: pdf https://www.google.de/url?sa=t&rct=j&q= ... zA&cad=rja
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Re: Mycenaean boats sailing from Greece to Cyprus? Not a cha

Postby umit07 » Tue Oct 20, 2015 3:33 pm

Nikitas wrote:"unwavering allegiance many GC's have to Greece, despite being short changed by them a number of times"

whereas Turkey always gives full change to the TCs. Cypriots are a funny lot.


She does (give plenty of change, it just ain't ever enough.
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Re: Mycenaean boats sailing from Greece to Cyprus? Not a cha

Postby Get Real! » Tue Oct 20, 2015 4:05 pm

I put together a map demonstrating how trading and thus navigation most likely took place in 1200BC, but unfortunately I keep getting told by the forum software that the image is invalid even though is displays ok at my end.

Ah well, maybe I’ll try again later.
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Re: Mycenaean boats sailing from Greece to Cyprus? Not a cha

Postby boomerang » Tue Oct 20, 2015 5:01 pm

Sotos wrote:GR is talking crap as always. If the Greeks couldn't get to Cyprus (and there are far easier ways to get to Cyprus from mainland Greece than a direct line from Crete), then how did the Chirokitians get to Cyprus 1000s of years earlier with primitive prehistoric technology? If we follow GRs logic then Cyprus should have remained uninhabited until the invention of GPS :lol: GRs... on a normal day you can easily make that 11km trip from Turkey to Farmakonisi with this boat:

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... as long as there are 1-2 people on it, and not 10!

Ever thought the Mediterranean was a giant lake which dried up and people just walked accross it?
How about the animals, you think they charted boats to get to cyprus or you think migration was only limited to humans...
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Re: Mycenaean boats sailing from Greece to Cyprus? Not a cha

Postby kurupetos » Tue Oct 20, 2015 5:08 pm

Get Real! wrote:I put together a map demonstrating how trading and thus navigation most likely took place in 1200BC, but unfortunately I keep getting told by the forum software that the image is invalid even though is displays ok at my end.

Ah well, maybe I’ll try again later.

:shock: Is it that intelligent? :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Mycenaean boats sailing from Greece to Cyprus? Not a cha

Postby Get Real! » Tue Oct 20, 2015 5:14 pm

kurupetos wrote:
Get Real! wrote:I put together a map demonstrating how trading and thus navigation most likely took place in 1200BC, but unfortunately I keep getting told by the forum software that the image is invalid even though is displays ok at my end.

Ah well, maybe I’ll try again later.

:shock: Is it that intelligent? :lol: :lol: :lol:

I keep getting this shit... :?

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