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Re: Donald Trump the next USA President ??

Postby Lordo » Tue Jan 24, 2017 6:13 pm

Schnauzer wrote:I think both the vilification or praise of Donald Trump (whichever camp suits) is rather premature and certainly a ploy by whichever interested party to present a false image of the man.

He is now President and whichever of the two representations of his intentions is correct, only a fair passage of time will present them.

Give the man a chance, he may surprise us all and....... the REAL purpose of this contribution is to erase the 666 number from 'REPLIES', thus protecting us all from the influence of 'He who forever seeks to lay curses upon us',

As is written, "The world will exist until the sounding of the last Trump'...and all will be well with mankind. (even Milti will forget how to utter his filth) :lol:

scnauzer when you see shit you dont need to smell it from close by to know it is shit. you can normally smell it from a mile away. he is about to begin the protection rackets which will lead us back to the good old 20s again. wrong decade but never mind only by just a few years
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Re: Donald Trump the next USA President ??

Postby Schnauzer » Tue Jan 24, 2017 6:24 pm

Lordo wrote:
Schnauzer wrote:I think both the vilification or praise of Donald Trump (whichever camp suits) is rather premature and certainly a ploy by whichever interested party to present a false image of the man.

He is now President and whichever of the two representations of his intentions is correct, only a fair passage of time will present them.

Give the man a chance, he may surprise us all and....... the REAL purpose of this contribution is to erase the 666 number from 'REPLIES', thus protecting us all from the influence of 'He who forever seeks to lay curses upon us',

As is written, "The world will exist until the sounding of the last Trump'...and all will be well with mankind. (even Milti will forget how to utter his filth) :lol:

scnauzer when you see shit you dont need to smell it from close by to know it is shit. you can normally smell it from a mile away. he is about to begin the protection rackets which will lead us back to the good old 20s again. wrong decade but never mind only by just a few years


"Judge not, that ye be not judged.
For with what judgment ye judge,
ye shall be judged:
and with what measure ye mete,
it shall be measured to you again".

So again I say unto you, give the 'Geezer' a chance, he may surprise us (one way or another). 8)
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Re: Donald Trump the next USA President ??

Postby Robin Hood » Tue Jan 24, 2017 7:48 pm

Tim Drayton:
Everything is based on your inner conviction that Trump and his team are taking on the elite on behalf of ordinary people but you have yet to provide any evidence for this.


I go by what he said during the process of the Presidential election campaign. This more-or-less reflects my perception of what Trump is about.

Who is Donald Trump? Why the US Globalist Elites Dread President-Elect Donald Trump

(I think you could regard this as ‘evidence’ …………)

Trump’s appeal is tapping into this deepening divide between citizens and their oppressively dishonest and secretive government. Working class white males are his prototypical supporter, angry over feeling pushed around and disenfranchised by a government that doesn’t give a shit about them. The Trump campaign promise to make America great again and calling the political system broken due to selling out to special interests resonates with a growing number of Americans who believe Obama and Clinton have sold America out to foreign interests and the ruling elite.

Big business and big government are ruining the nation, and Trump’s volatile thunder is outcompeting the usual fluff and distraction fare that normally consumes the apathetic apolitical public. Even the latest antics of the Kardashian family, recent modern gladiator-big sports events and mesmerizing appeal of the latest electronic gadgetry the elite constantly serves up to preoccupy, hypnotize and otherwise deceive the dumbed down masses from paying attention to disturbing, elite orchestrated world events and machinations are no longer working as they always have in the past.

Meanwhile, instead of investing in the well-being of their own people living in Western nations, the elite has wilfully destroyed the middle class, shrinking it to no longer be the majority population in America and refusing to maintain US infrastructure of highways and bridges as they literally crumble apart. Once the wealthiest city in the nation with its auto making empire, Detroit is another prime example of crumbling metropolitan infrastructure left to decay in apocalyptic ruin. With last year’s headlines Detroit’s water as a universal right denied its citizens for months at a time and this year nearby Flint’s foul brown water forsaking human health of poor Americans, these disgraceful tragedies are the story of modern America. The globalists have wilfully chosen to destroy America’s once vibrant, robust manufacturing sector that supported the world’s largest thriving middle class.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/ruling-elite-grows-desperate-to-destroy-trumps-presidential-bid/5515542


...... and I like the way he cuts through the diplomatic, politically correct world of those that want to bring him down before he upsets the apple cart.

But here’s Donald’s response to General Hayden’s swipe:

“ I’ll tell you how good our military is doing under Michael Hayden and people such as this. We’ve been fighting wars in the Middle East for 15 years, 18 years……… for four or five trillion dollars, we don’t know what we’re doing, we don’t know who we’re fighting, we’re arming people that we want on our side, we don’t know who they are. When they take over a country they’re worse than people they depose. Give me a break!


In fact, many wealthy Americans engage in acts of philanthropy and I am unaware of any such acts in the past by Trump or others in his team.


Trump it appears is not known as a philanthropist or a supporter of charities ......... but then, neither am I, although I have given quite generously to others in the past .......... are you a philanthropist, do you give to others, do you support charities, do you do voluntary work ? :wink:
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Re: Donald Trump the next USA President ??

Postby miltiades » Wed Jan 25, 2017 9:09 am

"Trump set to BAN people from Syria and six other 'dangerous' Muslim countries from entering America by signing executive orders"

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z4Wkr8aTx9
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Glad that ....Cyprus is not amongst the 7 nations :lol:

" One order reportedly will block visas from being issued to citizens of Syria, Iraq, Iran, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, and Yemen "

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Well at least he is ...consistent.
I hear from reliable sources that he is considering banning ...condoms, :lol: As well as anyone , male or female, sporting a beard :lol: :lol:
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Re: Donald Trump the next USA President ??

Postby Tim Drayton » Wed Jan 25, 2017 11:48 am

Don't you find it a little odd that, if he is really spearheading a revolution against the global ruling class in the interests of liberating ordinary people from slavery, he made no mention of this in his campaign? I do not recall Trump ever having referred to the 'New World Order' while he was campaigining or since having been elected. OK, he got in anyway, but since if people on the left really believed that this was what he was campaiging for he would have got their votes, too, would it not have been worthwhile mentioning it? Instead, the left regards him as being a far-right populist demagogue who articulates both the genuine concerns and blind prejudices of the masses so as to get their votes, not because the plight of the masses concerns him, but just as a vehicle to grab power to serve his own ends. How do you think the left has got it so wrong if what you say is true?
Another point is that we have repeatedly seen Trump make sexist, racisit and Islamophobic comments. I find this to be odd behaviour on the part of somebody who is supposed to be a liberator of the masses. After all women, people of all varieties of ethnic origins and Muslims also make up humanity, so if he is supposed to be a liberator of humanity, why does he despise large segments of humanity?
I am sorry, but I find the claim that Trump is spearheading a revolution to liberate the masses from the global ruling class to be misguided to the extent that I would brand anyone who seriously argues this is deluded or deranged.
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Re: Donald Trump the next USA President ??

Postby Tim Drayton » Wed Jan 25, 2017 11:56 am

Robin Hood wrote:I go by what he said during the process of the Presidential election campaign. This more-or-less reflects my perception of what Trump is about.


Yes, but then you quote analyses from whacko far-right conspiracy theory sites and do not show me where he said these things in the campaign. He didn't.
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Re: Donald Trump the next USA President ??

Postby Tim Drayton » Wed Jan 25, 2017 11:59 am

But here’s Donald’s response to General Hayden’s swipe:

“ I’ll tell you how good our military is doing under Michael Hayden and people such as this. We’ve been fighting wars in the Middle East for 15 years, 18 years……… for four or five trillion dollars, we don’t know what we’re doing, we don’t know who we’re fighting, we’re arming people that we want on our side, we don’t know who they are. When they take over a country they’re worse than people they depose. Give me a break! “


How does that show that he is leading a revolution against the global ruling class to liberate ordinary people?
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Re: Donald Trump the next USA President ??

Postby Tim Drayton » Wed Jan 25, 2017 12:32 pm

Just an alternative hypothesis for discussion. What if the global ruling class has consolidated its position to the extent that it no longer needs the veneer of sham elections and rights such freedom of expression, and has decided to move towards a form of authoritarian rule? Perhaps the populist far right movements that we see springing up like mushrooms everywhere, far from being a challenge to the global ruling class, are part of a strategy to install authoritarian regimes subservient to it. How can you be so sure that this is not what is happening? Can it really be so easy to challenge the global ruling class? Just by winning elections when the global ruling class has in the past shown itself to be very skilled at manipulating them.
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Re: Donald Trump the next USA President ??

Postby Robin Hood » Wed Jan 25, 2017 1:35 pm

Tim Drayton wrote:
Robin Hood wrote:I go by what he said during the process of the Presidential election campaign. This more-or-less reflects my perception of what Trump is about.


Yes, but then you quote analyses from whacko far-right conspiracy theory sites and do not show me where he said these things in the campaign. He didn't.


As usual, you think everyone else is whacko .... except you. You tend to nit-pick! He said a whole lot of things during the campaign ..... I just be can't be assed to hunt through the thousands of pages to find the word perfect evidence you seem to want. But, I got news for you! :roll:
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Re: Donald Trump the next USA President ??

Postby Robin Hood » Wed Jan 25, 2017 1:45 pm

Tim Drayton wrote:Just an alternative hypothesis for discussion. What if the global ruling class has consolidated its position to the extent that it no longer needs the veneer of sham elections and rights such freedom of expression, and has decided to move towards a form of authoritarian rule? Perhaps the populist far right movements that we see springing up like mushrooms everywhere, far from being a challenge to the global ruling class, are part of a strategy to install authoritarian regimes subservient to it. How can you be so sure that this is not what is happening? Can it really be so easy to challenge the global ruling class? Just by winning elections when the global ruling class has in the past shown itself to be very skilled at manipulating them.


They are entrenched .... ask Paphitis ! He refers to them as 'Deep State', as I said previously they can only be bought down by a complete restructuring of the banking and financial system as that is their life blood. Trump has started to do just that ...... maybe he will live long enough to make enough inroad to do just that. With the backing of the people against The Elite (NWO if yuo like) he will give them back their country and their self respect. IMO: If The Elite cannot bring down The Presidency by getting useful idiots to create mayhem that they can pile on Trump ...... there will be a war ..... in America, :(
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