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Re: ...this is America.

Postby Maximus » Fri Jun 17, 2022 12:20 pm

You have to see things for how they were in that time.Without context and comparable, you are farting in the wind.

Slavery was prevalent in other places other than America at the time. Its not unique to America. Europeans just partook in the slave trade that existed at the time.

The slaves could have had any skin color, they probably would have been treated the same.
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Re: ...this is America.

Postby Maximus » Fri Jun 17, 2022 12:21 pm

Lordo wrote:There is only one redeeming feature of Slavery in America which some African Americans have benefitted from in todays world.

The slave owners tried to breed their slaves in a selective way like we do animals today of their stock of slaves to get more out of them and without realising in some way have contributed to the success of the African American athletes in sports today.


that is ridiculous.
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Re: ...this is America.

Postby Lordo » Fri Jun 17, 2022 12:36 pm

Very interesting look at slavery today in America. Mind you they are talking about very well paid slaves.

https://blogs.adams.edu/thepawprint/athletic-enslavement-legal-slavery-in-america/
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Re: ...this is America.

Postby Maximus » Fri Jun 17, 2022 12:36 pm

Here you go Bordo,

Your ancestors where the beneficiaries of slaves

Turkish slave trade

Slavery in the Ottoman Empire was a legal and significant part of the Ottoman Empire's economy and traditional society. The main sources of slaves were wars and politically organized enslavement expeditions in Africa, Southern Europe, Eastern Europe, the Balkans, and the Caucasu.

Didnt the Ottomans make eunuchs out of some of them?

Pity they didnt have the foresight of the the European colonizers in north america. Their decedents could have been playing for Galatasaray today. :roll:
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Re: ...this is America.

Postby Lordo » Fri Jun 17, 2022 12:50 pm

[url]https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2019/06/17/most-americans-say-the-legacy-of-slavery-still-affects-black-people-in-the-u-s-today/
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Most Americans say the legacy of slavery still affects black people in the U.S. today
BY JULIANA MENASCE HOROWITZ
Wide racial and partisan gaps in views of impact of slavery on black Americans' position in society todays U.S. House of Representatives committee plans to hold a hearing this week on the topic of reparations for slavery, the first hearing on the topic in more than a decade. The legacy of slavery still resonates for many Americans, according to a Pew Research Center survey conducted earlier this year, with 63% believing it affects the position of black people in American society today either a great deal or a fair amount.

Black adults are particularly likely to say slavery continues to have an impact: More than eight-in-ten say this is the case, including 59% who say the legacy of slavery affects the situation of black people a great deal. By comparison, 26% of whites, 29% of Hispanics and 33% of Asians say slavery affects the position of black people in American society today a great deal, though majorities of each group say it does so at least a fair amount.


About eight-in-ten black adults say we haven't done enough in giving black people equal rights with whites. The survey also found that more than four-in-ten U.S. adults (45%) think the country hasn’t gone far enough in giving black people equal rights with whites, while 15% say it’s gone too far and 39% say it’s been about right. About eight-in-ten black adults (78%) say the country hasn’t made enough progress in this area, compared with 37% of whites and 48% of Hispanics. (Because this question was asked of a random half of the sample, the views of Asians can’t be analysed separately; for more information, see “A note about the Asian sample.”)

In addition to their bleak views about the country’s racial progress, black adults are also sceptical about the prospects for racial equality in the future. Among black Americans who say the country hasn’t gone far enough in giving black people equal rights with whites, 64% say it’s not too or not at all likely that the country will ever achieve racial equality. Whites who say the country still has work to do in this area are more optimistic: 80% say it’s very or somewhat likely that black people in our country will eventually have equal rights. Hispanics’ views are more mixed.

Democrats and those who lean to the Democratic Party (80%) are far more likely than Republicans and GOP leaners (43%) to say the legacy of slavery still affects the situation of black people in American society today. And while most Democrats (66%) say the country hasn’t gone far enough in giving black people equal rights with whites, just 18% of Republicans agree. About three-in-ten Republicans (28%) say the country has gone too far on this issue, while 53% say it’s been about right. These differences are virtually unchanged when looking only at white Democrats and Republicans.
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Re: ...this is America.

Postby Lordo » Fri Jun 17, 2022 1:00 pm

The question that springs to mind is why are the Kenyan long distance runners the best in the world. The answer is in their DNA and it has been naturally selected in order to survive in the altitude that they live. They have better lung functionality which uses less oxygen which makes them supercharged once they are at sea level. This has nothing to do with America but it explains what human body can do in natural environment.
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Re: ...this is America.

Postby Maximus » Fri Jun 17, 2022 1:01 pm

Wide racial and partisan gaps in views of impact of slavery on black Americans' position in society todays U.S. House of Representatives committee plans to hold a hearing this week on the topic of reparations for slavery, the first hearing on the topic in more than a decade. The legacy of slavery still resonates for many Americans, according to a Pew Research Center survey conducted earlier this year, with 63% believing it affects the position of black people in American society today either a great deal or a fair amount.

Black adults are particularly likely to say slavery continues to have an impact: More than eight-in-ten say this is the case, including 59% who say the legacy of slavery affects the situation of black people a great deal. By comparison, 26% of whites, 29% of Hispanics and 33% of Asians say slavery affects the position of black people in American society today a great deal, though majorities of each group say it does so at least a fair amount.


They have to blame the lack of their success on something.


About eight-in-ten black adults say we haven't done enough in giving black people equal rights with whites. The survey also found that more than four-in-ten U.S. adults (45%) think the country hasn’t gone far enough in giving black people equal rights with whites, while 15% say it’s gone too far and 39% say it’s been about right. About eight-in-ten black adults (78%) say the country hasn’t made enough progress in this area, compared with 37% of whites and 48% of Hispanics. (Because this question was asked of a random half of the sample, the views of Asians can’t be analysed separately; for more information, see “A note about the Asian sample.”)


What can a white person in America do today that a black person can not?

In addition to their bleak views about the country’s racial progress, black adults are also sceptical about the prospects for racial equality in the future. Among black Americans who say the country hasn’t gone far enough in giving black people equal rights with whites, 64% say it’s not too or not at all likely that the country will ever achieve racial equality. Whites who say the country still has work to do in this area are more optimistic: 80% say it’s very or somewhat likely that black people in our country will eventually have equal rights. Hispanics’ views are more mixed.


What can a white person in America do today that a black person can not?

Democrats and those who lean to the Democratic Party (80%) are far more likely than Republicans and GOP leaners (43%) to say the legacy of slavery still affects the situation of black people in American society today. And while most Democrats (66%) say the country hasn’t gone far enough in giving black people equal rights with whites, just 18% of Republicans agree. About three-in-ten Republicans (28%) say the country has gone too far on this issue, while 53% say it’s been about right. These differences are virtually unchanged when looking only at white Democrats and Republicans.


Of course, blacks make up a large segment of the democratic party voter base. Democrats want to fuel the racial divide and sell them their oppression and persecution. But what have they done for them? Keep them down and dependent on the democratic party to solve their problems.

Black republican party supporters who reject the democratic party and the victim hood, im oppressed mentality do very well in comparison.
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Re: ...this is America.

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Re: ...this is America.

Postby Kikapu » Sat Jun 18, 2022 10:20 am

Maximus wrote:
Of course, blacks make up a large segment of the democratic party voter base. Democrats want to fuel the racial divide and sell them their oppression and persecution. But what have they done for them? Keep them down and dependent on the democratic party to solve their problems.

Black republican party supporters who reject the democratic party and the victim hood, im oppressed mentality do very well in comparison.


So, what’s the white peoples excuse belonging to the Democratic Party? :wink:

So, you don’t think there are well to do blacks in the Democratic Party! :wink:

So, you think that all the whites are well to do in the Republican Party! :wink:
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Re: ...this is America.

Postby Maximus » Sat Jun 18, 2022 10:42 am

It doesnt matter, the democratic party are running the show at the moment and they dont discriminate when it comes to making everyone poorer.
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