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Re: And there are no Russian Soldiers in Ukraine?

Postby Get Real! » Thu Nov 23, 2017 1:22 pm

:? What a bizarre post! :lol:

One would expect to find Russian troops throughout the USSR.

Now be a good boy and tell us what the criminal American troops are doing in Ukraine which incidentally is USSR territory.
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Re: And there are no Russian Soldiers in Ukraine?

Postby Londonrake » Thu Nov 23, 2017 1:32 pm

Get Real! wrote::? What a bizarre post! :lol:

One would expect to find Russian troops throughout the USSR.

Now be a good boy and tell us what the criminal American troops are doing in Ukraine which incidentally is USSR territory.


USSR? :?

What a dullard reply. :roll:

Shouldn't you be busy doing your normal job? Stopping all those annoying people who are trying to join your forum? :lol:
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Re: And there are no Russian Soldiers in Ukraine?

Postby Get Real! » Thu Nov 23, 2017 3:13 pm

Londonrake wrote:
Get Real! wrote::? What a bizarre post! :lol:

One would expect to find Russian troops throughout the USSR.

Now be a good boy and tell us what the criminal American troops are doing in Ukraine which incidentally is USSR territory.


USSR? :?

What a dullard reply. :roll:

Shouldn't you be busy doing your normal job? Stopping all those annoying people who are trying to join your forum? :lol:

That's SOVIET territory and you'd better believe it just as Canada and Mexico are considered "US territory" (or turf if you prefer) by the great powers, and the idea is to steer clear from each other's turf to keep the peace but apparently someone broke that rule and it weren't the Russians!

Do you understand that now Mr Dullard?
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Re: And there are no Russian Soldiers in Ukraine?

Postby supporttheunderdog » Thu Nov 23, 2017 3:43 pm

supporttheunderdog wrote:Probably my only post in this topic

And there are no Russian Soldiers in Ukraine?

Bullshit! Hundreds of them. Over 150 dead!

https://www.forbes.com/sites/paulroderickgregory/2016/09/06/russian-combat-medals-put-lie-to-putins-claim-of-no-russian-troops-in-ukraine/ - methodology
http://gruz200.net/ Lists the known dead and active soldiers
http://gur.mil.gov.ua/content/viiskovi-zlochyntsi-ofitsery-5-ombr-1-ak-tstv-pivdennoho-vo-zs-rf.html - lists identified officers
https://news.vice.com/article/russian-soldiers-have-given-up-pretending-they-are-not-fighting-in-ukraine
https://news.vice.com/article/it-is-a-government-crime-the-coffins-of-russias-ghost-soldiers-in-ukraine-are-coming-home dead Soldiers -
https://news.vice.com/video/selfie-soldiers-russia-checks-in-to-ukraine - evidence of incursion
https://news.vice.com/article/russia-denies-that-its-soldiers-are-in-ukraine-but-we-tracked-one-there-using-his-selfies - evidence of incursion
https://informnapalm.org/en/russian-military-intervention-ukraine-overview-evidence-map/ Crimea -
http://www.putin-itogi.ru/putin-voina/ - reports on dead Russian soldiers -
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-31796226 - Putin launched plan to annex Ukraine started in February -
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Londonrake wrote:
Get Real! wrote::? What a bizarre post! :lol:

One would expect to find Russian troops throughout the USSR.

Now be a good boy and tell us what the criminal American troops are doing in Ukraine which incidentally is USSR territory.


USSR? :?

What a dullard reply. :roll:

Shouldn't you be busy doing your normal job? Stopping all those annoying people who are trying to join your forum? :lol:

That's SOVIET territory and you'd better believe it just as Canada and Mexico are considered "US territory" (or turf if you prefer) by the great powers, and the idea is to steer clear from each other's turf to keep the peace but apparently someone broke that rule and it weren't the Russians!

Do you understand that now Mr Dullard?


How can it be Soviet territory when the Soviet Union was dissolved on December 26, 1991, as a result of the declaration number 142-Н of the Supreme Soviet of the Soviet Union, unless of course you do not understand the nature of the USSR, as it was, and, in particular he difference between Russia (the largest contituent Republic of the USSR and the USSR itself.

On 2nd December 1991 Ukraine declared it had left the USSR: The President of Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic, Yeltsin, promptly recognised Ukraine as an independant Soverign state.

On December 8, 1991, the leaders of Russia, Ukraine, and Belarus signed the Belavezha Accords, which proclaimed the Soviet Union had ceased to exist and announced formation of the Commonwealth of Independent States (CIS) as a looser association to take its place. On December 12, 1981 the Supreme Soviet of the Russian SFSR formally ratified the Belavezha Accords and renounced the 1922 Union Treaty.

On December 21, 1991, representatives of 11 of the 12 remaining republics signed the Alma-Ata Protocol, which confirmed the dissolution of the Union and formally established the CIS.

Gorbachov resigned as President of the USSR on December 25 and on December 26, the upper chamber of the Union's Supreme Soviet voted both itself and the Soviet Union out of existence.

Members of the Russian Military have no right to be in any Ukranian Territory.

Now stop living in the 1980's... the world has moved on.
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Re: And there are no Russian Soldiers in Ukraine?

Postby Londonrake » Thu Nov 23, 2017 4:22 pm

Get Real! wrote:That's SOVIET territory and you'd better believe it just as Canada and Mexico are considered "US territory" (or turf if you prefer) by the great powers, and the idea is to steer clear from each other's turf to keep the peace but apparently someone broke that rule and it weren't the Russians!

I was going to break it to you gently but STUD has let the cat out of the bag. You must be in a state of shock. Yes, sadly, there is no Soviet Union.Image It's a dead parrot. Image Long gone.

Another bitter revelation. Nowadays the Ukraine has as much right as any other country to decide its fate. Just as the likes of Poland, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Hungary and the Czech Republic did. After decades under the Russian boot they couldn't wait to be rid of them. Rushing to join NATO and/or the EU to ensure it would never happen again. Image.

Of course, I may have got it completely wrong. Perhaps they were forcibly coerced into those things. Dragged away, kicking and screaming and are now dreaming fondly of the days when they will once again become areas of Russian "influence". :lol:

Get Real! wrote:Do you understand that now Mr Dullard?

From somebody who's talking about "Soviet" and "USSR" in 2017..................... that's priceless! :lol:
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Re: And there are no Russian Soldiers in Ukraine?

Postby Get Real! » Thu Nov 23, 2017 4:37 pm

Turf is turf which NEVER changes and the fact that Russia did NOT tolerate an encroachment of Soviet territory on TWO separate occasions I might add (Georgia and Ukraine) is sufficient evidence to all and sundry that they don’t plan to tolerate such moves in the future either.

The message was VERY clear from way back in the Georgian debacle but some seemingly haven’t learned from it or perhaps they don’t want to…

Keep pushing your luck until you cross a RED SOVIET LINE (pun intended) and then you can cry all you want for all anyone will hear or care.
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Re: And there are no Russian Soldiers in Ukraine?

Postby Get Real! » Thu Nov 23, 2017 4:42 pm

Addendum:

At this point in time the world is very lucky that we have a very civilized and tolerant Russian president but don’t expect such luck to go on forever because sooner or later he’ll get replaced and the next one may not be so civilized…
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Re: And there are no Russian Soldiers in Ukraine?

Postby Londonrake » Thu Nov 23, 2017 5:14 pm

Get Real! wrote:At this point in time the world is very lucky that we have a very civilized and tolerant Russian president but don’t expect such luck to go on forever because sooner or later he’ll get replaced and the next one may not be so civilized…


I doubt the people who have publicly disagreed with him and subsequently disappeared would agree. Nor those who've been murdered/assassinated for the same offence. Or the businessmen, etc who've shown less than total respect for him and his wishes, that have ended up in modern day gulags for "tax evasion". Their usually plundered assets sequestrated by "The State" (yes, I know Putin walks to work - probably with holes in his shoes :roll: )

Vladimir Putin's a dictator, pure and simple. Any suggestion that he's anything less is risible. After the collapse of the Soviet Union and what seemed a brief flirtation with something akin to democracy another surfaces in Russia. They do seem to like their dictators, don't they? From Catherine the Great all down the years. Dictators make me nervous though. It's a family thing. Throughout history they've always attracted their usually fanatical nationalist followers and foreign hero-worshiping groupies. On a majority of occasions it's all ended in tears of course.
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Re: And there are no Russian Soldiers in Ukraine?

Postby Get Real! » Thu Nov 23, 2017 5:42 pm

Londonrake wrote:
Get Real! wrote:At this point in time the world is very lucky that we have a very civilized and tolerant Russian president but don’t expect such luck to go on forever because sooner or later he’ll get replaced and the next one may not be so civilized…


I doubt the people who have publicly disagreed with him and subsequently disappeared would agree. Nor those who've been murdered/assassinated for the same offence. Or the businessmen, etc who've shown less than total respect for him and his wishes, that have ended up in modern day gulags for "tax evasion". Their usually plundered assets sequestrated by "The State" (yes, I know Putin walks to work - probably with holes in his shoes :roll: )

Vladimir Putin's a dictator, pure and simple. Any suggestion that he's anything less is risible. After the collapse of the Soviet Union and what seemed a brief flirtation with something akin to democracy another surfaces in Russia. They do seem to like their dictators, don't they? From Catherine the Great all down the years. Dictators make me nervous though. It's a family thing. Throughout history they've always attracted their usually fanatical nationalist followers and foreign hero-worshiping groupies. On a majority of occasions it's all ended in tears of course.

I couldn’t care less about the West's tabloid news because Putin, is the GREATEST statesman I’ve ever come across and my sense of judgment is backed by an education that is most likely way higher than yours…

…and if I were you, I’d be more concerned about the US and Britain’s INCESSANT crimes against humanity right around the world (ME & Africa predominantly) which you’re obviously completely ignorant of (or turning a blind eye) so don’t come and tell me “he’s a dictator” thinking that you’ve found a fault while keeping silent about the MILLIONS of murders that your FILTHY CRIMINAL country is responsible for.

IDIOT!
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