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The Future waits for No Man!

Postby MrH » Tue Jan 23, 2018 11:10 am

CYPRUS MAIL:

http://cyprus-mail.com/2018/01/23/view-dangerous-expertise-avoiding-tough-decisions/

Our View: A dangerous expertise in avoiding tough decisions

cyprus-mail.com/2018/01/23/view-dangerous-expertise-avoiding-tough-decisions/
January 23, 2018

IN the absence of anything very damaging to discredit the Anastasiades government, his rival candidates keep returning to his 2013 pre-election pledge that he would never allow the haircut of bank deposits.

After the latest onslaught, the president admitted “this was my big mistake”, explaining that “when you do not precisely know the prevailing economic conditions, you should not take responsibility, because you might not be able honour your commitments.”

This was a cop-out, said Stavros Malas because it was not possible for him to plead ignorance of the problems he had promised to solve before he was elected. He had gone unprepared to the Eurogroup meeting of March 2013, charged Giorgos Lillikas while Nicolas Papadopoulos argued that Anastasiades had tried to fool the people by sending to the House the bill for a levy on all bank deposits, fully aware that deposits up to €100,000 were protected by the EU.

Strictly speaking, this was not correct because the Eurogroup had given the go-ahead to the levy, which would have been a better solution than what followed a week later.

The reality was that nobody supported the first version – not even Anastasiades, who, in private, told party bosses to vote it down and he would secure big loans to cover the country’s needs. He sent his then finance minister, Michalis Sarris, to Moscow where he failed to secure a cent in help.

In rejecting the first haircut, the politicians committed the type of mistake which has become a feature of political life and consists of putting off a difficult decision in the unjustified belief they would secure something better in the future. Within a week of their defiant stand, Cyprus was forced to accept a much worse deal, including the winding down of Laiki Bank. The same happened a few months earlier when then President Demetris Christofias refused to agree to a bail-out, under the illusion that he could secure another big loan from Russia. Meanwhile the situation became much worse.

It is the exact same approach that has been adopted in the case of the Cyprus problem. Opportunities to sign a deal in 1978, 1985, 2004 and 2017 were spurned, each and every time, in the misguided belief that we would secure a better deal in the future.

This future never arrives, while with every passing year the north moves closer to becoming a province of Turkey. Turkish business has invested huge amounts of money in the north, the flow of settlers continues and it is only a matter of time before the Turkish Cypriots become a minority. Who will we negotiate with when the leader in the north is a Turk?

Our politicians have developed an expertise in missing opportunities by putting off decisions. This tendency was displayed again in 2013, but yet again we failed to learn that time waits for no man
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Re: The Future waits for No Man!

Postby Kikapu » Tue Jan 23, 2018 11:16 am

MrH wrote:CYPRUS MAIL:

http://cyprus-mail.com/2018/01/23/view-dangerous-expertise-avoiding-tough-decisions/

Our View: A dangerous expertise in avoiding tough decisions

cyprus-mail.com/2018/01/23/view-dangerous-expertise-avoiding-tough-decisions/
January 23, 2018

IN the absence of anything very damaging to discredit the Anastasiades government, his rival candidates keep returning to his 2013 pre-election pledge that he would never allow the haircut of bank deposits.

After the latest onslaught, the president admitted “this was my big mistake”, explaining that “when you do not precisely know the prevailing economic conditions, you should not take responsibility, because you might not be able honour your commitments.”

This was a cop-out, said Stavros Malas because it was not possible for him to plead ignorance of the problems he had promised to solve before he was elected. He had gone unprepared to the Eurogroup meeting of March 2013, charged Giorgos Lillikas while Nicolas Papadopoulos argued that Anastasiades had tried to fool the people by sending to the House the bill for a levy on all bank deposits, fully aware that deposits up to €100,000 were protected by the EU.

Strictly speaking, this was not correct because the Eurogroup had given the go-ahead to the levy, which would have been a better solution than what followed a week later.

The reality was that nobody supported the first version – not even Anastasiades, who, in private, told party bosses to vote it down and he would secure big loans to cover the country’s needs. He sent his then finance minister, Michalis Sarris, to Moscow where he failed to secure a cent in help.

In rejecting the first haircut, the politicians committed the type of mistake which has become a feature of political life and consists of putting off a difficult decision in the unjustified belief they would secure something better in the future. Within a week of their defiant stand, Cyprus was forced to accept a much worse deal, including the winding down of Laiki Bank. The same happened a few months earlier when then President Demetris Christofias refused to agree to a bail-out, under the illusion that he could secure another big loan from Russia. Meanwhile the situation became much worse.

It is the exact same approach that has been adopted in the case of the Cyprus problem. Opportunities to sign a deal in 1978, 1985, 2004 and 2017 were spurned, each and every time, in the misguided belief that we would secure a better deal in the future.

This future never arrives, while with every passing year the north moves closer to becoming a province of Turkey. Turkish business has invested huge amounts of money in the north, the flow of settlers continues and it is only a matter of time before the Turkish Cypriots become a minority. Who will we negotiate with when the leader in the north is a Turk?

Our politicians have developed an expertise in missing opportunities by putting off decisions. This tendency was displayed again in 2013, but yet again we failed to learn that time waits for no man
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The only problem with this article is, which is not surprising for the scum bag Cyprus Mail in general, that the RoC has never been negotiating with the TCs, but with Turkey via the TCs. So what will be the difference if the RoC is negotiating with Turkey via a Turk in the north? The only losers I see in all this, is for the TCs, as they will be treated badly by the Turks in the north, not forgetting being labelled as "parasites" by Erdogan couple of years ago. Some say, the TCs have brought this on themselves by selling out their existence to the Turks by allowing the Turks to take over the political system by issuing so called "trnc citizenship". You reap what you sow, I guess.
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Re: The Future waits for No Man!

Postby DrCyprus » Tue Jan 23, 2018 2:12 pm

Turkey currently genociding Kurds in North Syria.
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Re: The Future waits for No Man!

Postby Get Real! » Tue Jan 23, 2018 4:38 pm

I have no idea what this article, or MrH are on about… :?

It makes no difference to us whether those residing in the occupied territory are 10% Turks, 50% Turks, or some other combination… any more than the French citizens cared if their German occupiers of WWII hailed from Berlin or Hanover! :?

So while in illegal Turkish occupation, we don’t care whether the occupied territory is considered a “province of Turkey”, a “brothel of Turkey” or a “minaret of Turkey”… all we know is that when the time comes to liberate our territory from Turkish enslavement nobody is going to be worried about what the occupied territory WAS… :roll: :lol:

The entire territory of Cyprus belongs to the RoC and that’s all that matters. :)
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Re: The Future waits for No Man!

Postby repulsewarrior » Wed Jan 24, 2018 2:38 am

...indeed. I think what MrH does not understand, is that, for Turkey, its "Turks" and Turks, Cyprus is key. Cypriots do not "need" Greece, or Turkey. And Cypriots, as Cypriots and as Turks, may change Turkey, it is not the other way around.

In effect those Turkish against the "Turkishness" that leaves them as "others", have in the unification of Cyprus, a Hope, a template of a State where within, Cypriot Constituencies may exist, what they need as Turkish Constituencies themselves'.

...he may react with glee at every "Greek" failure, at every signal of doom where "Turks" may find a profit, that Cyprus will be torn in two; but i ask him: not "Greek"?, not "Turkish"?, Cypriot? You?

The "Turks", their elite, may go too far, Erdogan may change his intentions in favour of a Turkish Legacy, not a Legacy for "Turkishness".

Who but the "Turk" in Cyprus will feel the betrayal of it, where he will say, One Country, One Turkey, One Cyprus.

...Malas will not win, he has not taken advantage of AKEL for unity on both sides of the Green Line, or as an individual; to reach out to Cypriots island-wide as a Leader they could approve of. Without any new thinking he does not represent himself as a better choice, or as a better Cypriot, to the voters; who cares what he says as a griper, who cares about him, if that is all he offers? Anastasiades will win
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Re: The Future waits for No Man!

Postby MrH » Thu Jan 25, 2018 1:39 am

Kikapu,

We Turkish Cypriots lost in 1963 when Makarios staged his ultranationalist EOKA against us and made us a worthless minority in our own land. If it wasn’t for Turkey I’m 1974, they’d be no Turks on the island period! Trust me, I know as I lived through those years and witnessed Greek terrorism beyond any comprehension. My late father was brutally murdered in front of me in the street by the EOKA and was left to bleed to death. The ROC at the time didn’t do anything. After Turkey landed in Cyprus some 11 years after, we were moved to the north and only then was able to live a safe life. Regardless of how spoilt and ungrateful our current TC youth is today, Turkey is here to stay - even without us! Northern Cyprus is now a province of Turkey like Crete is an island of Greece! It’s finished. There’s is no federal solution, only partition. As to which type of partition the Greek Cypriots need to decide; either a two state formula or northern Cyprus annexed by Turkey. It’s that simple. Deal with it.
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Re: The Future waits for No Man!

Postby MrH » Thu Jan 25, 2018 1:44 am

My fathers name was “Ruso”......
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Re: The Future waits for No Man!

Postby Get Real! » Thu Jan 25, 2018 3:23 am

MrH wrote:If it wasn’t for Turkey I’m 1974, they’d be no Turks on the island period!

And why the fuck should there be any Turks in Cyprus? :?

Isn’t Turkey’s territory large enough for you and you have to spill onto other countries?

Or did you assume that Turks are so revered in the world, that every country would like a few? :roll: :lol:

What are you, fucking stupid or something?

Understand that it’s not my problem if your idiotic ancestors went looking for adventure on other people’s territories… they should’ve NEVER set foot here in the first place and you know that!

Now kindly FUCK OFF back to your country of origin because you don’t belong here, and I for one don’t appreciate you being here.

I'm utterly sick and tired of you worthless, trouble making, Islamo-fascist, Turko-cock sucking CUNTS! :evil:
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Re: The Future waits for No Man!

Postby repulsewarrior » Thu Jan 25, 2018 4:19 am

Are you looking for pity? Is this a game, just using the pity card nothing personal? You take great pleasure in winding up the "Greeks", and you offend the Cypriots we should remember as martyrs, playing "Turkish"; again, are you Cypriot?

...in any case MrH, your story is only typical, sad as it is. There is no doubt that acts of kindness were extended to victims of horrible crime, and there is little doubt that almost all Cypriots feel the same pain you do.

leventis comes to mind, i shall call you vlaka.

...so you give up eh? You think because you are Turkish, it will be ok as a "Turk", is that it?
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Re: The Future waits for No Man!

Postby repulsewarrior » Thu Jan 25, 2018 4:28 am

...in any case, it is a case o the kettle calling the pot black, isn't it; both "Greekness" and "Turkishness" having failed Cypriots so badly over the decades?

The Future waits for No Man: are you "Turkish", are you "Greek", are you Cypriot?
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