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Re: Cyprus Elections and the True Voter Opinion!

Postby Get Real! » Sat Feb 03, 2018 12:26 am

DrCyprus wrote:Mr H can you point us to some of the articles you write as a professional?

Why would you be interested in rants? :?

The man is a monotonous imbecile.
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Re: Cyprus Elections and the True Voter Opinion!

Postby Sotos » Sat Feb 03, 2018 7:16 am

Get Real! wrote:They may “agree” but only VERBALLY Sotos, which is what you fail to understand.

One can pretend to agree and then refuse to sign across the dotted line when it comes to the crunch.

So don’t take too seriously what is being SAID and worry more about what is being DONE, because after all… it is well known that ACTION speaks louder than words.

I'll repeat that... at NO time did any of our governments give anything away to Turkey despite DECADES of "agreeing" to everything. <--- Always remember that.


No GR, it is not just verbally, but also by submitting documents to the UN which list our concessions. Do you really think that if in Crans Montana the Turks made that one concession regarding the Turkish army and guarantees, that Anastsiades would then not sign what he had already agreed in the presence of the UN? Of course he would! We were saved by Turkey's greediness, but we threw our chance in the trash and now we will elect somebody who will go and make even more concessions to the Turks.
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Re: Cyprus Elections and the True Voter Opinion!

Postby B25 » Sat Feb 03, 2018 8:34 am

Did anyone read the letter that Mr Kotzias received in Greece about Macedonia, well it looks like the next president should also get one!!!!
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Re: Cyprus Elections and the True Voter Opinion!

Postby Get Real! » Sat Feb 03, 2018 10:11 am

Sotos wrote:
Get Real! wrote:They may “agree” but only VERBALLY Sotos, which is what you fail to understand.

One can pretend to agree and then refuse to sign across the dotted line when it comes to the crunch.

So don’t take too seriously what is being SAID and worry more about what is being DONE, because after all… it is well known that ACTION speaks louder than words.

I'll repeat that... at NO time did any of our governments give anything away to Turkey despite DECADES of "agreeing" to everything. <--- Always remember that.


No GR, it is not just verbally, but also by submitting documents to the UN which list our concessions. Do you really think that if in Crans Montana the Turks made that one concession regarding the Turkish army and guarantees, that Anastsiades would then not sign what he had already agreed in the presence of the UN? Of course he would! We were saved by Turkey's greediness, but we threw our chance in the trash and now we will elect somebody who will go and make even more concessions to the Turks.

:roll: Proposals get withdrawn from the UN all the time! :lol:

From MrH's favorite site:

"Turkish Cypriot Side Withdraws Map"

https://www.lgcnews.com/turkish-cypriot ... draws-map/


The whole thing is nothing but a joke. :lol:
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Re: Cyprus Elections and the True Voter Opinion!

Postby DrCyprus » Sat Feb 03, 2018 10:14 am

"On July 20, 1974, Turkey invaded Cyprus, a tiny island-nation on the eastern corner of the Mediterranean Sea, on the pretext of protecting the minority Turkish population on the island after a coup sponsored by the military junta in Greece forced the elected president of Cyprus to flee.

The coup, led by Greek army officers sent to train the Cypriot national guard, failed because the people of Cyprus did not want to united with Greece. They wanted to keep their status as in independent nation.

But Turkey used the temporary turmoil to invade the island. In a clear violation of U.S. law, Turkey used weapons supplied by the United States for “defensive” use to attack Cyprus.

The military invasion of Cyprus lasted a few weeks, but Turkey managed to drive out 200,000 Greek-Cypriots from their homes in the northern part of the island. One in three Cypriots became refugees in their own country.

More than 6,000 Greek-Cypriots (mostly civilians) were killed by the Turks and another 1,600 disappeared behind Turkish lines. Thirty-seven years later, Turkey still has not provided a full accounting of the whereabouts of 1,300 men, 116 women and 133 children trapped behind the advancing Turkish army.

Turkish troops set up what became known as the “Attila Line” and a Turkish occupation force of 40,000 troops have guarded the occupied territory since 1974, preventing Greek-Cypriots from returning to their ancestral homes. Turkey continues to occupy nearly 40 percent of Cyprus.

The Turkish regime set up a puppet state known as the “Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus,” recognized by only one nation — Turkey.

Over the past 37 years, more than 120,000 Muslim settlers have been brought from mainland Turkey to occupied Cyprus, forever changing the ethnic and religious balance of Cyprus, a Christian nation that once hosted the Apostle Paul, who preached on Cyprus during his first missionary journey. Paul also converted the Roman governor of Cyprus during his visit, establishing Cyprus as the first nation in the world to be governed by a Christian.

The invasion of Cyprus and the annexation of the northern third of the island by Turkey have been condemned repeatedly by the United Nations, but we all know how effective U.N. resolutions are. They’ve been ignored continuously by aggressor states like Turkey.

Relations between the United States and Greece have been strained since the 1974 invasion. And our so-called ally, Turkey, has repeatedly turned its back to U.S. requests to use its air space and U.S.-built military bases for operations in Iraq and Afghanistan.



Since the 1974 invasion, every American administration has pledged to find a resolution to the Cyprus problem, but every single president — Gerald Ford, Jimmy Carter, Ronald Reagan, George H.W. Bush, Bill Clinton, George W. Bush and Barack Obama — has failed to persuade the Turks to leave Cyprus.

The United States has always maintained a double standard when it comes to Turkey. The U.S. criticizes North Korea and Iran for human rights violations and aggressive actions against their neighbors, but will not do the same with Turkey, which has openly violated U.S. law and thumbed its nose at the U.S. repeatedly.

Had Turkey consented to allow the U.S. to open a second front against Saddam’s forces during the 2003 invasion of Iraq, thousands of Saddam loyalists — the so-called insurgents killed hundreds of American soldiers — would have been captured or killed. Instead, they fled the advancing U.S. forces from the south and set up for the guerrilla warfare we saw for years in Iraq.

The only just solution to the Cyprus problem is the immediate withdrawal of Turkish troops from the island and the removal of the 120,000 illegal Turkish settlers.

The only way to force Turkey to comply with U.S. and international law is to stop sending American tax dollars to Turkey.

Write to your congressman today and ask why billions of U.S. tax dollars are being spent to support a rogue nation like Turkey."
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Re: Cyprus Elections and the True Voter Opinion!

Postby Sotos » Sat Feb 03, 2018 6:17 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Sotos wrote:
Get Real! wrote:They may “agree” but only VERBALLY Sotos, which is what you fail to understand.

One can pretend to agree and then refuse to sign across the dotted line when it comes to the crunch.

So don’t take too seriously what is being SAID and worry more about what is being DONE, because after all… it is well known that ACTION speaks louder than words.

I'll repeat that... at NO time did any of our governments give anything away to Turkey despite DECADES of "agreeing" to everything. <--- Always remember that.


No GR, it is not just verbally, but also by submitting documents to the UN which list our concessions. Do you really think that if in Crans Montana the Turks made that one concession regarding the Turkish army and guarantees, that Anastsiades would then not sign what he had already agreed in the presence of the UN? Of course he would! We were saved by Turkey's greediness, but we threw our chance in the trash and now we will elect somebody who will go and make even more concessions to the Turks.

:roll: Proposals get withdrawn from the UN all the time! :lol:

From MrH's favorite site:

"Turkish Cypriot Side Withdraws Map"

https://www.lgcnews.com/turkish-cypriot ... draws-map/


The whole thing is nothing but a joke. :lol:


This happened much later. They can make a conditional proposal, and the proposal can be withdrawn if the the other side doesn't meet the condition. In our case the only condition was about the withdrawal of the Turkish army and the end of Turkish guarantees. If Turkey made that one concession then there would be no way for Anastasiades to withdraw his concessions.
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Re: Cyprus Elections and the True Voter Opinion!

Postby GUGO » Sun Feb 04, 2018 10:42 pm

Get Real! wrote:
MrH wrote:Our View: Reunification no longer an option for today’s voters

Who writes this total garbage? :)

Reunification was NEVER an option because the notion was utter nonsense!

The suggestion that native Cypriots were at any point in time united with Ottomans or Ottoman remnants so as to call for a “reunification”, is ludicrous and an insult to our intelligence!

Nothing short of the 100% LIBERATION of Christian Cyprus from dirty Ottoman/Turkish Islamic hands, can ever satisfy Cypriots.


NATIVE CYPRIOTS WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT. WHY DO YOU CLAIM TO BE EUROPEAN IF YOUR A NATIVE CYPRIOT. LAST TIME I LOOKED CYPRUS IS NOT PHYSICALLY IN EUROPE. ARE YOU EUROPEAN OR CYPRIOT MAKE YOUR FUCKING MIND UP YOU RETARD
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Re: Cyprus Elections and the True Voter Opinion!

Postby GUGO » Sun Feb 04, 2018 10:56 pm

OK LETS TALK REALITY. YES YOU DO WANT A CYPRUS SOLUTION BUT THE ONE YOU ALL WANT BUT PRETEND TO WANT A SOLUTION WITH YOUR FELLOW TURKISH CYPRIOT COMPATRIOTS IS TO ETHNICALLY CLEANSE ANYTHING THAT YOU DO NOT CONSIDER AS NATIVE. THE SIGNS ARE THERE IN ALL ITS GLORY. YOU STILL TEACH YOUR CHILDREN FROM BIRTH TO HATE TURKS AND REGARD THEM AS DOGS. NO NATION ON EARTH INDOCTRINES IN THIS DAY AND AGE TO DO THIS. LAST PEOPLE THAT DONE THIS WERE NAZIS. YOU ALL ALSO KEEP YOUR WEAPONS AFTER YOU DO YOUR SERVICE. NO OTHER COUNTRY DOES THIS AND YET AGAIN THE LAST PEOPLE THAT DONE THIS WAS NAZIS AND AT PRESENT GREEK CYPRIOTS AND ISIS TERRORISTS IN SYRIA. THERE IS ONLY ONE SOLUTION IN THE MINDS OF GREEK CYPRIOTS AND ITS NOT THE BULLSHIT YOU HAVE BEEN FEEDING TO EUROPE. THE ONLY THING I AGREE WITH ERDOGAN IS HIS OPINION ON CYPRUS THAT THE TURKISH ARMY WILL NEVER LEAVE CYPRUS. THERE MIGHT NOT BE TURKISH CYPRIOTS LEFT IN CYPRUS IN DECADES TO COME BUT THE TURKISH ARMY IS THERE TO STAY AND YOU CANT DO FUCK ALL.
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Re: Cyprus Elections and the True Voter Opinion!

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Sun Feb 04, 2018 11:13 pm

GUGO wrote: .... TO HATE TURKS AND REGARD THEM AS DOGS. .....


Even dogs wouldn't do what these Turkey-paid cowards do ...

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-mide ... SKBN1FM2LX
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Re: Cyprus Elections and the True Voter Opinion!

Postby repulsewarrior » Sun Feb 04, 2018 11:34 pm

Dear GUGO,

It is very hard to read your posts while you are yelling.

...trying to read your last post, i must say, i just couldn't be bothered.

cheers.
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