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Re: Giant gas field discovered off the coast of Cyprus

Postby Robin Hood » Wed Feb 07, 2018 9:07 am

CBBB wrote:
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CBBB wrote:
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supporttheunderdog wrote:The politics and Turkey's bellicose attitude are another matter.

That's what CBBB was referring to so let's hear his take on this...

My take is that there is not much we can do if Turkey decides to prevent us from exploiting our resources, and I don't really see anyone else is willing to act against them apart from with words.


For the first time I can remember you have actually written enough to convey something of note. I agree with you. :wink:

Bugger!


Pity there is no 'LIKE' icon! :D :wink:
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Re: Giant gas field discovered off the coast of Cyprus

Postby Paphitis » Wed Feb 07, 2018 11:01 am

CBBB wrote:
Robin Hood wrote:
CBBB wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
supporttheunderdog wrote:The politics and Turkey's bellicose attitude are another matter.

That's what CBBB was referring to so let's hear his take on this...

My take is that there is not much we can do if Turkey decides to prevent us from exploiting our resources, and I don't really see anyone else is willing to act against them apart from with words.


For the first time I can remember you have actually written enough to convey something of note. I agree with you. :wink:

Bugger!


Enjoy it! Robin Hood agrees with you.

Cyprus strength however stems from International law, ratified by most countries under UNCLOS.

The other thing to remember is that there are a number of very large international oil companies with massive interests in the Cypriot Gas Fields. Wars have actually been sparked over such resource deposits in the past, and countries like Israel and USA are probably very prepared to use their military assets to protect the assets of American and Israeli oil firms in the sea. It soesn't cost them anything because their fleets are already there and present.

It would be a very gutsy effort from Turkey to violate that.
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Re: Giant gas field discovered off the coast of Cyprus

Postby Paphitis » Wed Feb 07, 2018 11:02 am

Robin Hood wrote:
CBBB wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
supporttheunderdog wrote:The politics and Turkey's bellicose attitude are another matter.

That's what CBBB was referring to so let's hear his take on this...

My take is that there is not much we can do if Turkey decides to prevent us from exploiting our resources, and I don't really see anyone else is willing to act against them apart from with words.


For the first time I can remember you have actually written enough to convey something of note. I agree with you. :wink:


If I was the Cypriot Government, I would have have the likes of you under very strict surveillance.
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Re: Giant gas field discovered off the coast of Cyprus

Postby Londonrake » Wed Feb 07, 2018 11:21 am

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Re: Giant gas field discovered off the coast of Cyprus

Postby Paphitis » Wed Feb 07, 2018 11:26 am

Londonrake wrote:http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-42962127


Yes thank you for that interesting article.

It is true Turkey isn't flavour of the month.

But let's be very real and pragmatic about it. If the Americans want the drilling to continue in the Cyprus EEZ, all it needs to do is park its smallest frigate there. If it wants to disrupt any Turkish activities, all it needs to do is send its smallest Frigate.

It would be absolute insanity for Turkey to go against American Oil Interests. This could very will tip the Americans well over the edge and there is a LOT they can do to harm Erdogan without firing a single bullet. And just to teach Erdogan a little lesson, they could start with Cyprus or solve the Kurdish Question (who knows?)

Just imagine any one of these Oil Giants bankrolling Trumps next presidential Campaign for a second term. This is what these businesses do in Washington and before you know it, Trump sends an entire Battle Group a few clicks just to send Erdogan a message. That's when Erdogan will need to change his underwear!

Does anyone really think a business with billions worth in assets on the ocean seabed will not drop several tens of millions of dollars to get Trump elected again? They all do it. Arms dealers, tobacco giants, Pharmaceutical companies, Oil Giants, you name it.
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Re: Giant gas field discovered off the coast of Cyprus

Postby Robin Hood » Wed Feb 07, 2018 1:05 pm

Paphitis wrote:
Robin Hood wrote:
CBBB wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
supporttheunderdog wrote:The politics and Turkey's bellicose attitude are another matter.

That's what CBBB was referring to so let's hear his take on this...

My take is that there is not much we can do if Turkey decides to prevent us from exploiting our resources, and I don't really see anyone else is willing to act against them apart from with words.


For the first time I can remember you have actually written enough to convey something of note. I agree with you. :wink:


If I was the Cypriot Government, I would have have the likes of you under very strict surveillance.


And waste tax payers money! Because like the Russian saga in the US ....... there is nothing to see or hear its all propaganda with no proof to back it. I would have though the ELAM(?) crowd would be of far more interest than a 76 year old British Pensioner, his wife ..... and their little dog. :roll:
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Re: Giant gas field discovered off the coast of Cyprus

Postby Paphitis » Wed Feb 07, 2018 1:14 pm

Robin Hood wrote:
And waste tax payers money! Because like the Russian saga in the US ....... there is nothing to see or hear its all propaganda with no proof to back it. I would have though the ELAM(?) crowd would be of far more interest than a 76 year old British Pensioner, his wife ..... and their little dog. :roll:


I'm really sorry, but there is something completely amiss here, especially when people question the Republic's ability to protect its interests.

We know Cyprus is weak, and that might is right sometimes, but the USA has some massive interests here and last time I checked, they are mightiest of all and to top it all off, International Law is with the Republic n this, much to your dismay because of America's and Israel's interests.

Simply put, you are always against USA and Israel.

You support Turkey as a result!

Just as you always support Russia, and Iran.

You got issues. Real big issues.

people see right through you!
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Re: Giant gas field discovered off the coast of Cyprus

Postby Get Real! » Wed Feb 07, 2018 1:50 pm

Earlier today Egypt's Ministry of Foreign Affairs responded on this matter with...

“No party can challenge the legality of the agreement on demarcation between Egypt and Cyprus, and any attempt to undermine the Egyptian sovereignty in its exclusive economic zone in the Eastern Mediterranean is rejected and will be addressed”

Egypt, Israel, Greece, and a handful of oil companies belonging to some EU countries, would be affected by any Turkish interruption so it's not that easy for Turkey to spoil here.
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Re: Giant gas field discovered off the coast of Cyprus

Postby Paphitis » Wed Feb 07, 2018 2:01 pm

Get Real! wrote:Earlier today Egypt's Ministry of Foreign Affairs responded on this matter with...

“No party can challenge the legality of the agreement on demarcation between Egypt and Cyprus, and any attempt to undermine the Egyptian sovereignty in its exclusive economic zone in the Eastern Mediterranean is rejected and will be addressed”

Egypt, Israel, Greece, and a handful of oil companies belonging to some EU countries, would be affected by any Turkish interruption so it's not that easy for Turkey to spoil here.


Don't forget the USA and Israel through Noble and Delek. They are involved in this as well as some EU countries.

They won't be happy either.
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Re: Giant gas field discovered off the coast of Cyprus

Postby repulsewarrior » Wed Feb 07, 2018 11:14 pm

...we have seen already how it played out; Turkey's meddling. It failed in Egypt. It failed in Lebanon. It is failing in Israel, let's not mention Greece. It failed with the establishment of stronger ties between these countries and Cyprus. In affect she has isolated herself.

It will likely fail now, with their own explorations, which will be even more costly because Turkey will "do it" alone.

...submarines, i will mention them again, because if you remember the Piri Reis, you will be expecting something as absurd as a submarine base near Famagusta.

...i am expecting the "new" Piri Reis (because there is one) to play a role, soon.
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