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Re: Giant gas field discovered off the coast of Cyprus

Postby CBBB » Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:53 am

Sotos wrote:
CBBB wrote:So where are the Italian. American, and Israeli navies then?

There is no need for any navies. If Turkey does something that harms EU interests then EU can cripple Turkey with embargoes. EU is just slow to react trying all other methods first... but sooner than later Turkey will allow the drilling or face consequences.


Will that be sometime this century?
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Re: Giant gas field discovered off the coast of Cyprus

Postby DrCyprus » Tue Feb 13, 2018 10:13 am

CBBB wrote:
Sotos wrote:
CBBB wrote:So where are the Italian. American, and Israeli navies then?

There is no need for any navies. If Turkey does something that harms EU interests then EU can cripple Turkey with embargoes. EU is just slow to react trying all other methods first... but sooner than later Turkey will allow the drilling or face consequences.


Will that be sometime this century?


As long as Turkey is interrupting the interest of international corporations, the E.U. will act swiftly.
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Re: Giant gas field discovered off the coast of Cyprus

Postby Londonrake » Tue Feb 13, 2018 10:33 am

DrCyprus wrote:
CBBB wrote:
Sotos wrote:
CBBB wrote:So where are the Italian. American, and Israeli navies then?

There is no need for any navies. If Turkey does something that harms EU interests then EU can cripple Turkey with embargoes. EU is just slow to react trying all other methods first... but sooner than later Turkey will allow the drilling or face consequences.


Will that be sometime this century?


As long as Turkey is interrupting the interest of international corporations, the E.U. will act swiftly.


http://www.parikiaki.com/2018/02/europe ... eu-member/

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Re: Giant gas field discovered off the coast of Cyprus

Postby CBBB » Tue Feb 13, 2018 10:36 am

DrCyprus wrote:
CBBB wrote:
Sotos wrote:
CBBB wrote:So where are the Italian. American, and Israeli navies then?

There is no need for any navies. If Turkey does something that harms EU interests then EU can cripple Turkey with embargoes. EU is just slow to react trying all other methods first... but sooner than later Turkey will allow the drilling or face consequences.


Will that be sometime this century?


As long as Turkey is interrupting the interest of international corporations, the E.U. will act swiftly.


I hope so, but I won't hold my breath!
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Re: Giant gas field discovered off the coast of Cyprus

Postby kurupetos » Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:10 pm

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Re: Giant gas field discovered off the coast of Cyprus

Postby CBBB » Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:16 pm

kurupetos wrote:Former Greek MFA: "The only good Turk is a dead Turk".

http://www.protothema.gr/politics/article/760579/pagalos-o-monos-kalos-tourkos-einai-enas-nekros-tourkos/


And what is he going to do about it?
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Re: Giant gas field discovered off the coast of Cyprus

Postby Paphitis » Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:23 pm

CBBB wrote:
kurupetos wrote:Former Greek MFA: "The only good Turk is a dead Turk".

http://www.protothema.gr/politics/article/760579/pagalos-o-monos-kalos-tourkos-einai-enas-nekros-tourkos/


And what is he going to do about it?


It's not really the time to do anything about this just yet. It's far too early for any action that might do nothing but piss them off and escalate the situation further.

The Turks culd back down on their own accord. But if they don't, they will hit a brick wall eventually when the French, Americans and Israelis start moving equipment to the area.

It's not something they can sustain indefinitely. They won't be able to stop the Americans and I doubt they could stop the Italians long term.

If the Americans and others had a naval presence, then what is Erdogan going to do about that?

My bet is that Turkey will move on and create a situation in the Aegean (like Imia crisis). Greece is going to cop it. And of course, Turkey will lose more friends and isolate itself further.
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Re: Giant gas field discovered off the coast of Cyprus

Postby Jerry » Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:42 pm

The EU has a bit of a problem here, if it takes action against Turkey for its illegal action then we will see thousands of refugees arriving in Greece again. With hindsight we can see how Turkey allowed the refugee influx to escalate and then stopped it but now holds the EU to ransom should it threaten to sanction that country over any criminal act it commits now or in the future.

Turkish bravado and chest beating knows no bounds, it plans to rename the street the US embassy stands in in honour of its invasion of Syria. http://abcnews.go.com/International/wir ... e-53023014

I suppose this is one instance where we have to be grateful that the US has a president like Trump in charge, he's less likely to take any shit from Erdogan than any of his predecessors.
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Re: Giant gas field discovered off the coast of Cyprus

Postby Paphitis » Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:49 pm

Jerry wrote:The EU has a bit of a problem here, if it takes action against Turkey for its illegal action then we will see thousands of refugees arriving in Greece again. With hindsight we can see how Turkey allowed the refugee influx to escalate and then stopped it but now holds the EU to ransom should it threaten to sanction that country over any criminal act it commits now or in the future.

Turkish bravado and chest beating knows no bounds, it plans to rename the street the US embassy stands in in honour of its invasion of Syria. http://abcnews.go.com/International/wir ... e-53023014

I suppose this is one instance where we have to be grateful that the US has a president like Trump in charge, he's less likely to take any shit from Erdogan than any of his predecessors.


Erdogan and Pootin are like 2 peas in a pod!

Exact same personality. Exact same imperialism. International law means nothing.
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Re: Giant gas field discovered off the coast of Cyprus

Postby Kikapu » Tue Feb 13, 2018 1:07 pm

Jerry wrote:The EU has a bit of a problem here, if it takes action against Turkey for its illegal action then we will see thousands of refugees arriving in Greece again. With hindsight we can see how Turkey allowed the refugee influx to escalate and then stopped it but now holds the EU to ransom should it threaten to sanction that country over any criminal act it commits now or in the future.

Turkish bravado and chest beating knows no bounds, it plans to rename the street the US embassy stands in in honour of its invasion of Syria. http://abcnews.go.com/International/wir ... e-53023014

I suppose this is one instance where we have to be grateful that the US has a president like Trump in charge, he's less likely to take any shit from Erdogan than any of his predecessors.

Jerry,
Once the refugees know that if they go to Greece, that's the far as they will get since the borders to the EU is closed for them beyond Greece. They will end up in refugee camps. They are free in Turkey now, so why go to Greece. Erdogan does not have that trump card any longer to blackmail the EU. He can only be spoiler. In return, the EU must hit Turkey very hard economically and politically, including taking PKK off the terrorist list, just to teach Erdogan a lesson. Enough pussy footing with Erdogan and his merry men of thugs.
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