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Re: The Skripal poisoning affair ..... was it Russia/Putin?

Postby Robin Hood » Fri Sep 07, 2018 12:20 pm

I don’t think to Russians are any threat at all to the UK! They appear to be the most unbelievably incompetent security services it would be possible to find anywhere in the World!

The two assassins are seen arriving by train in Salisbury at 11:48 almost two hours after they apparently put Novichok on Skripal's door handle, then nonchalantly stroll down the road looking in shop windows ......the only thing they didn’t do was wave at the camera’s! Then they got on the train, went back to London and then later flew back together to Moscow, just as they arrived, together on the same direct flight. The latest time line of incidents makes a mockery of much of the previous and current claims by the government. The Official story has less credibility by the day

Where are the Skripals and the policeman and his family now? They have just disappeared off the face of the earth.

Really, if anyone accepts this without questioning all these anomalies ...... they really are gullible. :roll:

https://www.globalresearch.ca/skripals-the-mystery-deepens/5653170


Accusations there have been an endless stream of but tangible evidence, there seems to be none! It’s easy to make accusations ...... but Russia’s ‘guilt’ in this instance, needs some sound evidence to support them. :?
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Re: The Skripal poisoning affair ..... was it Russia/Putin?

Postby Lordo » Sat Sep 08, 2018 1:13 am

it is customary that if a crime is committed by a person from another country, interpol is informed and their arrest is asked for. then the host country has to supply evidence so they can be extradited back to where they can be tried. Instead they anounced their names and pictures so there is no country that would be able to try them. even xwerodjehalo as a lawyer would get them off as they are not likely to have a fair trial.

it is all made up anyway. the truth has not beentold yet and it will not be for another few decades till the files are released.
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Re: The Skripal poisoning affair ..... was it Russia/Putin?

Postby Londonrake » Sat Sep 08, 2018 10:47 pm

Robin Hood wrote:I don’t think to Russians are any threat at all to the UK! They appear to be the most unbelievably incompetent security services it would be possible to find anywhere in the World!

The two assassins are seen arriving by train in Salisbury at 11:48 almost two hours after they apparently put Novichok on Skripal's door handle, then nonchalantly stroll down the road looking in shop windows ......the only thing they didn’t do was wave at the camera’s! Then they got on the train, went back to London and then later flew back together to Moscow, just as they arrived, together on the same direct flight. The latest time line of incidents makes a mockery of much of the previous and current claims by the government. The Official story has less credibility by the day

Where are the Skripals and the policeman and his family now? They have just disappeared off the face of the earth.

Really, if anyone accepts this without questioning all these anomalies ...... they really are gullible. :roll:

https://www.globalresearch.ca/skripals-the-mystery-deepens/5653170


Accusations there have been an endless stream of but tangible evidence, there seems to be none! It’s easy to make accusations ...... but Russia’s ‘guilt’ in this instance, needs some sound evidence to support them. :?


As I said there is nothing that would persuade some. Those that accuse others of having robotic, closed minds and not being able to think "outside the box" just parrot absolutely everything that comes out of the Kremlin, have always and will always do so. Hypocrites.

It's simple food poisoning. It's a disgruntled employee at Porton Down. It's a British plot to distract from Brexit (well, that's working well).Etc, etc. Each IRA production eagerly picked up and faithfully posted as damning "evidence" (get the hypocrisy in that one?). Baaahhhh!

The Russians have years of form when it comes to silencing critics or threats by poisoning. It's not a difficult thing to look into. They have years of the same tactic of denial/distraction/diversion. There is no plan to deploy nukes to Cuba. There's nothing going on at Chernobyl. There are no Russian forces active in the Ukraine conflict. You can find lots of this stuff if you look but why would you?

As far as incompetency is concerned - absolutely. Litivenko's (no comment on that of course) killing was a total botch. The Skrypal incident follows a familiar pattern. To assassinate a traitor in a way that leaves an unmistakable "message" as an example to others. That in accordance with Putin's declaration that traitors would "kick the bucket" and "choke on their 20 pieces of silver". Again, simple research. Although the Russian ambassador to London claimed in a press conference his President never said such a thing. Concurrently declaring that there is no such thing as Novichok. It's a myth created and perpetuated by the CIA. Again, no comment on that piece of choice propaganda (yes, embarrassing - best avoided).

Where are the victims of this activity? As though that in itself is damning. :roll: Pathetic.

So, what has Putin gained from this farce?

150 Russian diplomats have been expelled from a range of Western capital cities. Every targeted Russian was an active officer of the intelligence agencies GRU or SVR and the cream of the Russian intelligence services, none of whom will ever again be accepted as diplomats in any country which counts.

It takes years to build up such networks. The devastation caused to Putin’s espionage system by these expulsions has been a catastrophic price to pay for the blundered attempt to murder one sad, non-entity, retired old renegade. Yes - you are spot on - unbelievable incompetency.

Congratulations BTW. You seem finally to have achieved what has appeared to me to be your aim over the past 8 years. A state where there are no more opponents to better. As I said, some time ago, you are reduced to the occasional, unanswered broadcasted opinion on a pet subject. Well done.

Now, you should get yourself a nice cup of tea, then perhaps count to a hundred, rather than frothing at the mouth and pounding the - safe zone - keyboard, most probably with a face like a bulldog, licking shit off a thistle. Rather than doing something totally stupid - again :lol: :wink:

I'm off.Ta leme ! :D
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Re: The Skripal poisoning affair ..... was it Russia/Putin?

Postby Robin Hood » Sun Sep 09, 2018 6:24 pm

RH said:

"Really, if anyone accepts this (The UK's Skripal pantomime) without questioning all these anomalies ...... they really are gullible."

........ and you leap out of the woodwork in full military attack mode (as usual) to prove me right and that there really are still dummies around, like you, that believe every word of this fairy tale ....... of course no evidence required ....... it's obvious the Russians did it ! :lol: :lol: :lol:

If the UK Govt. told you to eat sh*t you would do so without question .......just a smart salute. What an absolute plonker you make your self look! :roll: :arrow:
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Re: The Skripal poisoning affair ..... was it Russia/Putin?

Postby Londonrake » Sun Sep 09, 2018 8:40 pm

It’s “yourself” actually. :lol:

I thought the food poisoning thing was good. For a while you really seemed to salute and eat that shit. :lol: Well, before the next laughable fantasy came along, which of course you immediately adopted. :lol: In that context though, dummies are people who just parrot the line they’re fed (bad pun). You know, can’t think for themselves, inside the box stuff, sheep.

Can you demonstrate a single occasion in the past 5 years where you have ever - once - had doubts or even (Heaven forbid!) actually disagreed with anything at all that’s been pumped out by the Kremlin? Err, I certainly can’t. Even when they’ve changed their story, you have just blithely parroted both. :lol: You’re a sort of Lord Haw Haw but without the gravitas. :wink: Lenin’s expression “useful idiot” was spot on.

I know you’re bitter about it (and an awful lot of other things - the perennial “victim”- looking for somebody, anybody, except of course yourself, to focus your resentment upon) but you would never have made a fighter pilot. Fundamentally, you’re the complete antithesis of a team person. “I showed them!”. You would never have gotten through the basics, let alone as far as a cockpit.

Honestly though, don’t you miss it? You’re stuck in a self-inflicted 69. No one to talk to. :lol:

A bit more “personal abuse” towards Paphitis and myself tucked away. :wink:

I earlier referred to politically cynical paranoids. An almost universally characteristic they share is.......................they think they’re normal. 8)
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Re: The Skripal poisoning affair ..... was it Russia/Putin?

Postby Robin Hood » Mon Sep 10, 2018 6:18 am

Londonrake wrote:It’s “yourself” actually. :lol:

I thought the food poisoning thing was good. For a while you really seemed to salute and eat that shit. :lol: Well, before the next laughable fantasy came along, which of course you immediately adopted. :lol: In that context though, dummies are people who just parrot the line they’re fed (bad pun). You know, can’t think for themselves, inside the box stuff, sheep.

Can you demonstrate a single occasion in the past 5 years where you have ever - once - had doubts or even (Heaven forbid!) actually disagreed with anything at all that’s been pumped out by the Kremlin? Err, I certainly can’t. Even when they’ve changed their story, you have just blithely parroted both. :lol: You’re a sort of Lord Haw Haw but without the gravitas. :wink: Lenin’s expression “useful idiot” was spot on.

I know you’re bitter about it (and an awful lot of other things - the perennial “victim”- looking for somebody, anybody, except of course yourself, to focus your resentment upon) but you would never have made a fighter pilot. Fundamentally, you’re the complete antithesis of a team person. “I showed them!”. You would never have gotten through the basics, let alone as far as a cockpit.

Honestly though, don’t you miss it? You’re stuck in a self-inflicted 69. No one to talk to. :lol:

A bit more “personal abuse” towards Paphitis and myself tucked away. :wink:

I earlier referred to politically cynical paranoids. An almost universally characteristic they share is.......................they think they’re normal. 8)


YAWN ........ same old, same old! Nothing but your opinion is valid and nothing but the usual personal attack! Not getting much backing on the other forum either I notice. You are phobic about everything .......Russia, Putin, Syria, Assad, Nth Korea, Kim, Iran, Ayatollahs, Palestinians, Corbyn, Cuba etc.etc ......... all bad ....... only US and their allies good ...... thank goodness you seem to be in a minority. :roll:
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Re: The Skripal poisoning affair ..... was it Russia/Putin?

Postby Robin Hood » Thu Sep 13, 2018 8:29 pm

Whether what they are saying is true or not we don’t know but the interview was obviously not rehearsed, but at least they get to speak, in fact the interviewer was hostile. An open interview is more than Sergie and Julia or the policeman have had the opportunity to do!

WATCH Skripal Case Suspects Interviewed by Sputnik, RT Editor-in-Chief

Alexander Petrov and Ruslan Boshirov, suspected by London of being involved in the poisoning of Russian ex-spy Sergei Skripal and his daughter Yulia in Salisbury, have agreed to an exclusive interview with RT and Sputnik after Russian President Vladimir Putin had urged them to address the media.

https://sputniknews.com/europe/201809131068002870-skripal-interview-uk-suspects/
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Re: The Skripal poisoning affair ..... was it Russia/Putin?

Postby Londonrake » Thu Sep 13, 2018 8:32 pm

Robin Hood wrote:YAWN ........ same old, same old! Nothing but your opinion is valid and nothing but the usual personal attack! Not getting much backing on the other forum either I notice. You are phobic about everything .......Russia, Putin, Syria, Assad, Nth Korea, Kim, Iran, Ayatollahs, Palestinians, Corbyn, Cuba etc.etc ......... all bad ....... only US and their allies good ...... thank goodness you seem to be in a minority. :roll:


Ohh, I've never really cared about "backing" or what people think. Especially you, obviously. :wink:

Not sure what you mean by "phobic". I suspect you're referring to my rarely agreeing with your opinions. Well, that's a well trodden path - by so many.

As far as minorities goes, do you think you're in a majority, or have ever been, anywhere? Really? :lol: :lol: :lol:

I've followed and fenced with you for 8 years. You hold the responsibility record for the most people who've left forums. You hold the record for people who simply will not interact with you. You should welcome this sort of stuff! In that respect your "minority" reference is a bit hypocritical don't you think (now, that's novel)?

No comment on the fact that you have never, ever disagreed with anything that's come out of the Kremlin? Come on - think outside the box. Don't have a closed mind. Be objective and honest. Give us an example which proves me wrong.

I'm glad you can still follow the other forum you refer to. The one where it now seems you're banned from, after one of your periodic angry outbursts. Let's be honest - it was a pretty Oscar winning effort though! :lol: Believe it or not, I miss your input there and did in all honesty ask Admin to let it go. Now though you're consigned to .................. well, 'nuff said. There are a lot of forums out there but - I guarantee, wherever you end up it will always go the same way.

Anyway, back to the OP.

I'm sure you have followed things - as stated - however, let's go over it.

The two men cited by the UKG as being complicit in the poisoning of the Skrypals appeared on RT (Russian funded State media) and came out with the following:

They flew from Moscow, on the recommendation of their friends, during early March in order to see the amazing cathedral in Salisbury (although they got their facts wrong about it in the interview) and Stonehenge. As any Moscovite would of course.

At the end of their "holiday" they'd spent a total of 3 hours 45 minutes in Salisbury, during 2 visits. Their wandering past the Skrypal's house - caught on CCTV - (which they admitted) was apparently a coincidence. They went back to London because being boys from Moscow they were put off by the slush in Salisbury it seems.

3hrs 45 minutes over 2 trips in Salisbury and a total of 52 hours spent on their sight seeing trip to the UK, before they returned to Moscow.

Well, all very credible. :roll:

Let's no dwell on Porton Down finding minute traces of Novichok (which of course doesn't exist) in their London hotel room.

Before you respond (you dig holes better than anyone I know) may I suggest you pop off to Moonshine of Albania's opinion shop (aka Gregory Petrovsky) and pick up the latest IRA trolling he has to offer on the subject? :wink:

Let's keep it all - outside the box.

Looking back - a long time - black day, wasn't it? If only. :wink:
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Re: The Skripal poisoning affair ..... was it Russia/Putin?

Postby Londonrake » Thu Sep 13, 2018 10:17 pm

Robin Hood wrote: What an absolute plonker you make your self look! :roll: :arrow:


It's "yourself" :wink:

Let's get this straight.

The man who:

Is a prepper. IE, has a stock of fuel and food stashed away, in anticipation of the imminent Armageddon.

Who believes that the world is controlled by a shadowy elite. The New World Order. Predominately Jewish bankers.

Who hates Jews - an anti-semite - covered by the veneer of "it's just Zionists".

Who thinks that the US did 9/11.

Who thinks that the US "secretly" used a nuclear weapon in Fallujah.

Who thinks that Israel "secretly" used a nuclear weapon in Syria.

Who believes that Russia has a "secret" weapon which can totally immobilise any Western ship or aircraft.

Who believes that Vladimir Putin is all powerful and everybody better be careful not to try his incredible patience.

Who believes that Kim Jong-un and Bashir Assad are admirable democrats, loved by their populations but forced into conflict by the evil West.

Who believes that everything that comes out of the Kremlin is the truth, whilst everything that comes out of the West is lies.

Well, I could go on, it's a long list but - really - who do people think is actually ..................................................the "plonker"? :lol:
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Re: The Skripal poisoning affair ..... was it Russia/Putin?

Postby supporttheunderdog » Fri Sep 14, 2018 10:19 am

"Alexander Petrov" and "Ruslan Boshirov" complained about the snow yet despite this alleged snow fall they are known to have managed to walk out to within a short distance of the Skripal's house,and back, close to two miles out of town, in the opposite direction to the Cathedral from the Station and where no one else seemed to have any trouble getting about town or to Stonehenge.

Why had they walked out there, in the alleged deep snow, rather than spend time in the Cathedral, with its clock, which in my view is worth about the time they are known to have spent in Salisbury, or e.g. find a cafe ?

They can hardly have got lost, as with its Spire, "It’s famous for its 123m spire " it is quite hard to not see where the Cathedral is ...

Also strange how their passports are sequentially numbered....
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