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Re: The Skripal poisoning affair ..... was it Russia/Putin?

Postby Paphitis » Tue Oct 16, 2018 7:06 pm

The other interesting thing, there are hardly any if not none, who seek asylum with Russia.

That folks tells us a lot already.
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Re: The Skripal poisoning affair ..... was it Russia/Putin?

Postby Pyrpolizer » Tue Oct 16, 2018 11:58 pm

I should have clarified that my comment was mostly referring to rather the young to middle age people working for the Police or the Military,
Because even them eventually realize what is going on by watching their grown up children struggling out there. It usually happens about a decade before they retire. So I wasn't actually referring to LR knowing he retired from RAF. Imo he has his own views by conviction, like so many other people who are out of the security forces.

I am personally not supporting Russia per se. I criticize the West ( and in this case the UK) because I am familiar with their system.
Hell here in Cyprus we copy-paste nearly everything the UK does! I wish I knew more about the Russian system, but I know nothing to form a balanced view. :cry:
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Re: The Skripal poisoning affair ..... was it Russia/Putin?

Postby Paphitis » Wed Oct 17, 2018 2:52 am

Pyrpolizer wrote:I should have clarified that my comment was mostly referring to rather the young to middle age people working for the Police or the Military,
Because even them eventually realize what is going on by watching their grown up children struggling out there. It usually happens about a decade before they retire. So I wasn't actually referring to LR knowing he retired from RAF. Imo he has his own views by conviction, like so many other people who are out of the security forces.

I am personally not supporting Russia per se. I criticize the West ( and in this case the UK) because I am familiar with their system.
Hell here in Cyprus we copy-paste nearly everything the UK does! I wish I knew more about the Russian system, but I know nothing to form a balanced view. :cry:


Well, I can tell you you that serving the military in Australia was probably the best thing I ever did. I was also quite proud to do so. You never factor in your Government in deciding to join, or whether they are truthful or anything else. That is completely irrelevant. It's also politics. Usually you join as a career avenue or stream. Would I let my child join? Yes I think I would be proud for them too. Generally speaking, the people are very fond of the military.

You don't need to have served the military to have views like LR of conviction on the Skripal affair. The evidence is overwhelming. Service personnel have varying views. We do not all have the same views and no one is brainwashed as has been asserted. But yes, if you have views like Robin Hood, well first of all you will be deemed to be a bit unstable and you should probably understand that the British Forces are not for you and the system will probably weed you out as being unsuitable for service. There is no other logical explanation as to how these people were almost killed by a Russian made military grade chemical. Russia wanted him dead for obvious reasons. We had very little to gain either way, but reacted by evicting 150 diplomats. Our strength was in our unified global response against Russian (29 countries in all). Without this unified responce we were with our tails in between our legs because Russia engaged in a Military Black Op on our soil. That is a very big thing.

Now if you reverse the tables, and there was a British or American turncoat working for the Russians, we would also probably want him dead. And they may attempt to kill this person one way or another. It's hard to say, but the British/American hit might be a lot more sophisticated or professional and it wouldn't involve detectable things like Sarin or other Chemicals which would get them into more trouble if the operation failed for any reason. No one really knows what the Brits or Americans would do, but they probably have the capacity to do something similar if it warrants them taking the risk. no one knows what their processes are, or how their chain of command works.

What is absolutely stupid is the idea that somehow the Brits set this all up and nearly killed their own police officer and actually claimed the life of an innocent passer by. There was no point for the Brits to do this if the purpose is to just evict 150 "diplomats". Besides the USA, Australia, and Holland and a few others like Malaysia were already prepared to do that just over the MH17 shooting down. Besides them, Trump was already going to send 65 back as well. Along with all that, the usual countries like France, Canada, New Zealand, and germany would also have done something.
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Re: The Skripal poisoning affair ..... was it Russia/Putin?

Postby Paphitis » Wed Oct 17, 2018 3:10 am

What is very bad is the fact that Greece and Cyprus have done nothing. It's these type of things that get noticed by the rest of us, and you always get sold out for it.

Russia is a criminal country. There is no ifs or buts about it.

And all of you need to know this.

The Russian Orthodox Church is now in total schism with the Ecumenical Patriarch or Constantinople now. Therefore, they are no longer officially in communion with the Orthodox Faith. This has occurred from Pootin who was a staunch Atheist but now claims to be super religious.

The reason is this:

The Ecumenical Patriach has granted the Ukrainian Orthodox Church autopcephaly like the Church of Cyprus and Greece have and in total accordance with Church Canons dating back to 1638.

So kiss your Russian Orthodox brothers and sisters good bye folks.

Make no mistake about it, Pootin is a bully and is trying to push everyone around. Even the Ecumenical Patriach Bartholomew, was bullied and pushed around so as to not grant the Ukrianian Orthodox Church autocephaly. And because Pootin didn't get his way, he is throwing tantrums and all his toys out of the cot, and his kabnistiri and placed Russian Orthodoxy in total schism and heresy.

Good riddance too (to pootin)....although I must remember that the Russian people are not at fault or perhaps deserving.

So now my friends, the Ukrainians are our brothers and sisters.
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Re: The Skripal poisoning affair ..... was it Russia/Putin?

Postby Robin Hood » Wed Oct 17, 2018 6:56 am

Paphitis

If scientists could convert bullshit to brains ............ you would be a friggin genious! :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: The Skripal poisoning affair ..... was it Russia/Putin?

Postby miltiades » Wed Oct 17, 2018 9:18 am

Robin Hood wrote:Paphitis

If scientists could convert bullshit to brains ............ you would be a friggin genious! :lol: :lol: :lol:

He may even learn how to spell Putin.
What a blithering idiot !! Got it all wrong with the Syrian issue, with the USA elections, remember he called Trump an idiot, now he is in love with him.
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Re: The Skripal poisoning affair ..... was it Russia/Putin?

Postby Paphitis » Wed Oct 17, 2018 10:18 am

Sorry, but what this proves and shows us all is the fact that we are dealing with a very dangerous Narcissist in pootin.

This man is very dangerous. Make no mistake about it.

If he is willing to desecrate the faith of millions of people - his own people - to pursue his own political agendas in the Ukraine, then there is nothing more to say.

It also proves what has been true for nearly a hundred years. Russia is trying to subjugate, and destroy all Ukrainian institutions in a systematic way. This is no different to what Turkey is doing to the northern part of Cyprus with its looting and destruction of Church's monasteries and cultural sites.

Just like the Holodomor where Russia attempted the total genocide of the Ukrainian people by famine which claimed the lives of between 3.3 to 7.5 million Ukrainians to a slow and agonizing and brutal death just before WW2. This is the biggest genocide in human history probably on par to The Jewish Holocaust.

That is why the Ukrainians sided with the Nazis only a few years after. Not because they are fascist but they found an opportunity to side with Russia's enemy which made them Ukraine's friend.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor

http://www.historyplace.com/worldhistor ... stalin.htm
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Re: The Skripal poisoning affair ..... was it Russia/Putin?

Postby Pyrpolizer » Wed Oct 17, 2018 10:41 am

Paphitis wrote:The other interesting thing, there are hardly any if not none, who seek asylum with Russia.

That folks tells us a lot already.


I wouldn't call an annual number of 125 thousands "none"
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Re: The Skripal poisoning affair ..... was it Russia/Putin?

Postby Paphitis » Wed Oct 17, 2018 12:05 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:
Paphitis wrote:The other interesting thing, there are hardly any if not none, who seek asylum with Russia.

That folks tells us a lot already.


I wouldn't call an annual number of 125 thousands "none"


Really Pyro? There are 125,000 Australian, American, or British asylum seekers to Russia are there? Why?

That doesn't even make any sense unless you are an Assange or someone of that ilk, there is literally no reason to be wanting asylum in Russia.

And that is another thing. Australia and the USA have never made any attempt on his life, and that is something they could have easily done over the years but all they did is issue arrest warrants over him and that other one (I forget the name) who had a sex change and they made a movie about.

So we are just going to have to accept that the West and Russia, operate with an entirely differing set of ethics and morality.

I don't know if our Security Agencies would do the same things as the GRU does from Russia. Maybe they do, and maybe they don't. If they do, well then they are damn very good at their jobs. It's just that they never even tried with assange and co, who founded Wikileaks.
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Re: The Skripal poisoning affair ..... was it Russia/Putin?

Postby Paphitis » Wed Oct 17, 2018 12:48 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:
Paphitis wrote:The other interesting thing, there are hardly any if not none, who seek asylum with Russia.

That folks tells us a lot already.


I wouldn't call an annual number of 125 thousands "none"


There are literally thousands of Russians that are applying for political asylum in the USA every year. And the numbers are increasing.

https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-increase ... 59435.html
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