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Re: The Skripal poisoning affair ..... was it Russia/Putin?

Postby Paphitis » Thu Oct 18, 2018 2:13 am

Pyrpolizer wrote:
Londonrake wrote: Giving the unfortunate appearance of some sort of contest to win your favour.


I wouldn't call it "a contest to win MY favour" but a contest to win the favour of EVERYBODY who is watching.
Nothing strange with that.
It happens all the time in this forum when two people with diametrically opposite convictions fight each other.
They (including myself) feel there's an audience watching, and they try their best to convince the audience or to win the favour of the audience as you put it..

To be honest I usually enjoy it. Most forums are like that, and most discussions are by 50% fights on personal issues.
Any way you look at it, it's fun :wink:
All topics would be too boring without it..


No it isn't about winning favour of everyone on this forum. People have their views and they won't change. Most people are willing to discuss sensibly however, but are few do border on the ridiculous and need help.

But this forum (Cyprus generally) is very much aligned with Russia and resentment for the West runs fairly deep. It is slowly changing.

It is important to have some balance, because whilst many in Cyprus have a resentment, in the real world, it is Pootin who is resented by the majority of countries and people.

No matter how you dress it, Pootin is one of the most vindictive and nasty dictators on the planet. He is going to cause a lot of grief and as we have already seen, there is nothing that is sacred to this psychopath. Not even the Russian Orthodox Church which is now in Schism over the autocephaly of Ukraine.

I personally think Cyprus has made huge grave errors by associating itself with Russia and in the past with the Non Alligned Movement and the legacy of that is going to touch generations to come, and possibly destroy Cyprus.
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Re: The Skripal poisoning affair ..... was it Russia/Putin?

Postby Robin Hood » Sun Oct 21, 2018 7:05 pm

What’s that word? Oh yes, now I remember ...... HYPOCRISY!

The US/NATO shills have gone quiet on this one .... the silence is defening! One of the members of the forum was so impressed with the Saudi regime a couple of years ago, he wanted to become an Arab as they were such a wonderful people and even take his family to live there! Obviously he is not a very rational observer and easily led to believe just about anything. :roll:

Skripal and Khashoggi: A Tale of Two Disappearances - Two disappearances, and two very different responses from Western governments, which illustrates their rank hypocrisy.

Quote: The last four paragraphs ............

Surely the point here is the unseemly indulgence by Western governments of Saudi Arabia and its so-called “reforming” Crown Prince. It is remarkable how much credulity Washington, London, Paris, Ottawa and others are affording the Saudi despots who, most likely, have been caught redhanded in a barbarous murder.

Yet, when it comes to Russia and outlandish, unproven claims that the Kremlin carried out a bizarre poison-assassination plot, all these same Western governments abandon all reason and decorum to pile sanctions on Russia based on lurid, hollow speculation. The blatant hypocrisy demolishes any pretense of integrity or principle.

Here is another connection between the Skripal and Khashoggi affairs. The Saudis no doubt took note of the way Britain’s rulers have shown absolute disregard and contempt for international law in their de facto abduction of Sergei and Yulia Skripal.(and at least three other people) If the British can get away with that gross violation, then the Saudis probably thought that nobody would care too much if they disappeared Jamal Khashoggi.

Grotesquely, the way things are shaping up in terms of hypocritical lack of action by the Americans, British and others towards the Saudi despots, the latter might just get away with murder. Not so Russia. The Russians are not allowed to get away with even an absurd fantasy.

Full article

https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2018/10/17/skripal-and-khashoggi-tale-of-two-disappearances.html
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Re: The Skripal poisoning affair ..... was it Russia/Putin?

Postby Londonrake » Sun Oct 21, 2018 7:14 pm

Robin Hood wrote:.....................their de facto abduction of Sergei and Yulia Skripal.(and at least three other people) If the British can get away with that gross violation


:lol: :lol: :lol:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vpqffgak7To

:roll:

New forum?

Making new friends and influencing more people?

Need any help? :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: The Skripal poisoning affair ..... was it Russia/Putin?

Postby Robin Hood » Sun Oct 21, 2018 8:49 pm

Londonrake wrote:
Robin Hood wrote:.....................their de facto abduction of Sergei and Yulia Skripal.(and at least three other people) If the British can get away with that gross violation


:lol: :lol: :lol:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vpqffgak7To

:roll:

New forum?

Making new friends and influencing more people?

Need any help? :lol: :lol: :lol:


More chaff ..... but no answer though to the very obvious HYPOCRISY? :roll: Are you awaiting further instruction's from 'Head Office SW1' ? :D

Don't tell me you are searching the forums to flush me out, so you can repeat your hounding? Ahhhhhh ..... will no one, quite understandably, engage in any meaningful dialogue with you on this or any other forum? You really are a very sad and pathetic person .......... if that is the case.
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Re: The Skripal poisoning affair ..... was it Russia/Putin?

Postby Londonrake » Sun Oct 21, 2018 9:08 pm

Robin Hood wrote:More chaff ..... but no answer though to the very obvious HYPOCRISY? :roll: Are you awaiting further instruction's from 'Head Office SW1' ? :D

Don't tell me you are searching the forums to flush me out, so you can repeat your hounding? Ahhhhhh ..... will no one, quite understandably, engage in any meaningful dialogue with you on this or any other forum? You really are a very sad and pathetic person .......... if that is the case.


OHHHHH - back of the net, back of the net!!! :lol:

Hypocrisy? :lol: :lol: :lol: Well, you should know.

No - I sincerely hope that you've found somewhere which makes you happy and.................I have absolutely no desire to be told (as with CF) by anybody where that is - please.

Hounding? Well, I owe you a debt. What was that about "...............there is no race on the Planet that can hold a grudge...........". Don't you believe it - you ain't seen nothing. Well, you had the chance to square things. :wink:

In case you've failed to notice it over a zillion years - nobody has ever been able to engage you in any "meaningful dialogue" :?

No, I'm OK. It's you that always ends up becoming increasingly isolated (or banned). I find it difficult to believe you can't see that. Then again, there's so much you don't seem able to see. :?

Can I give you some (never of course accepted) advice. Why don't you just shut up? The evidence in the Skripal case - or lack of - whatever anybody wants to believe - is history now. Stop bludgeoning.
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Re: The Skripal poisoning affair ..... was it Russia/Putin?

Postby repulsewarrior » Sun Oct 21, 2018 10:21 pm

Who remembers, all, the successful assassinations Putin allegedly has committed? Who can say how many there have been? Some of them brilliant i may say, under the lights, under the video cameras, on the streets of Moscow, a garbage truck blocks the view only for a few seconds...

...is there anyone; even Putin?

There is no comparison between this Russian prince, and this Arab royal family. Each in their own unique way have the power to stretch the ethical and moral boundaries that are for the rest of us Universal Principals; there is the rub.

...indeed, murder is nothing new, nor fake news, ask Bismark. Murder as something new, is nothing new, neither the hypocrisy that revolves around that.

Putin is a Capitalist. The Chinese, even DAESH, are Capitalists: none can escape the Age we are in; ask Marx, and Engels.

...what is the end of Capitalism; talk about the rub.
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Re: The Skripal poisoning affair ..... was it Russia/Putin?

Postby Robin Hood » Sun Jan 20, 2019 8:53 am

There are more holes in the Official Story than in a colander ......... and there are still those that see no weakness in the Governments story! :roll:

Coincidence? - Chief Nurse Of British Army Was First Person To Arrive At Novichoked Skripal Scene

Today an intriguing new detail of the case came to light. Spire FM, a local radio station in Salisbury, reports of a young woman, Abigail McCourt, who was given a 'Lifesaver Award' for her involvement in the Skripal case:

The 16 year old, from Larkhill, was the first to spot two people collapsed on a bench in the Maltings on March 4th and didn't hesitate to help. Abigail quickly alerted her mum, a qualified nurse, who was nearby and together they gave first aid to the victims until paramedics arrived.

It soon became clear this was no ordinary medical incident, but the poisoning of a former Russian spy Sergei Skripal, and his daughter Yulia, with Novichok.
...
Immediately following the incident and with the world's media focused on Salisbury, the pair didn't want any want press attention and kept their involvement quiet.

But Abby's mum now feels the time is right for her daughter to be recognised for the "incredible" way she dealt with the scenario. Alison nominated her for the Lifesaver Award at Spire FM's Local Hero Awards, and the judges were unanimous in their decision that Abigail was a very worthy winner.

Earlier reports mentioned that a 'military nurse' had attended to the Skripals. Following the above report Elena Evdokimova checked the name of the young women's mothers and found a curiosity:

Elena Evdokimova @elenaevdokimov7 - 10:50 utc - 19 Jan 2019

We were right, it was Alison McCourt who was that"unknown military nurse" who, absolutely randomly, happened to be near the bench where #Skripals collapsed . Spire FM alleges that it was her daughter Abigail alerted her, but no one mentioned her before ...
Here is the thing. Alison McCourt is not just one random 'military nurse'. She is the Chief Nursing Officer for the British Army with the rank of Colonel:

Colonel A L McCourt OBE ARRC QHN - Assistant Head Health Strategy / Chief Nursing Officer (Army) - Senior Health Advisor (Army) Department.


Full article .......

https://www.moonofalabama.org/2019/01/coincidence-chief-nurse-of-the-british-army-was-the-first-person-to-arrive-at-the-novichoked-skripal.html#more


Didn't the 'official story' say that it was a doctor that was first on the scene ..... well, after the policeman, who had to dash away to the Skripals house to 'investigate'?

Curious'r and curious'r ........... and where are the Skripal's now ???? :?:
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Re: The Skripal poisoning affair ..... was it Russia/Putin?

Postby repulsewarrior » Tue Apr 02, 2019 4:23 am

In the first of our three meetings, Smorodinov unfolded a map of central Moscow that he had drawn from memory on graph paper. He pointed to a pencil-shaded block labelled Vienna Cafe, around the corner from a square representing the headquarters of Russia’s Federal Security Service, or FSB, the main successor of the Soviet KGB.

“This, in general, is where I met with my handlers, in the cafe,” he said.

Smorodinov has never been an intelligence officer, or so he says. Though he had once served in the Soviet navy and worked for a few years as a police officer, he has dedicated much of his adult life to organised crime, having done time in prison for bribery and extortion. Between prison stints, he worked as a sex trafficker, shuttling women from Ukraine to clients in Moscow, a former criminal associate told me.

Smorodinov described the murder in minute detail, including the text message from Moscow, the floral code names and the stunned expression on Mamchur’s face as he collapsed to the floor. But he is trying to persuade prosecutors, and me, that he was an unwitting assassin, duped by the two mysterious handlers he met at the Vienna Cafe, men he knew only as Philipp and Maksim.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/e ... -1.3845442

An unexplained murder in Ukraine. Then the Russian assassin talked


...revenge, at a small cost, even sub-contracted; an interesting story of intrigue.
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