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[Paphitis]

My dislike of Pootin applies as a result of these and other things.

There are many other things one would dislike Pootin for. He is a totalitarian dictator. There is no free press in Russia at all. In fact, journalists go missing should they be found to not tow the Kremlin's line.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_j ... _in_Russia

It's funny how concluded that Russia is a Totalitarian regime because of it's low record on free press without even caring to compare it with other countries.
The fact is that it's freedom of press is slightly better than that of Turkey's which is a NATO member, and even better/or about the same than major non-NATO allies of the United States.
Saudi Arabia ranks at the bottom yet the Americans nearly bow to the Saudis.... who in fact are one of their biggest allies
It looks cherry picking is a favorite sport for all US apologists.

https://rsf.org/en/ranking_table
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_non-NATO_ally

Slightly better than Turkey. Pyro, I have always said that Russia and Turkey are liked 2 peas in a pod. They have similar GDP, and a similar political class as it stands today.

It was never suppose to be like that in Russia's case. Russia, is not an Eastern Country like we in the West call it eastern as a Cold War remnant. It is Christian and a Western society. Slightly more conservative however than many Western Countries.

It should not be anywhere near Turkey, but it is.

I am happy to compare it with a number of Western Countries. Where would you want to live? Would you prefer to live with your family in the USA or Russia? Would you prefer to live in Canada or Russia? Would you prefer to live in the UK or Russia? Would you prefer to live in Australia or Russia? Would you prefer to live in New Zealand or Russia? Would you prefer to live in France or Russia? Where is it better for you to raise your kids?

Milti, made the silly remark that I have hatred for Russia and Russians. That isn't the case. I got no issue with most Russians at all or Russia itself. I have a problem with Russia's political class right now and its Government. Just one aspect is the HDI of Russians living in Russia and the freedoms they enjoy within their society and the freedom of press. It is a sad situation for any country to kill its journalists, or to arrest them under bogus emergency laws as is the case in Turkey. In Russia, there are no laws like that so journos don't get arrested unless it is on trumped up charges of corruption etc. They just disappear.

Pyro, we are all very lucky to live in the countries we live in. let's actually spare a thought for people living in places like Russia or Turkey. Of course there are worse countries still, such as perhaps Saudi Arabia. Belarus is another one and Milti never mentioned anything about that whilst he was in Minsk. Belarus has one of the most vicious tyrants on the planet. Look it up.

But there are many reasons why Pootin isn't well liked. The freedom of press is just one issue.

[Paphitis]

Or just maybe, you are a Russia Pootin apologist and believe in flying pigs and the Death Star Death Ray Lazer.

You mean this Dr Evil guy is not really cute?

All this talk about the Russian Death Ray and stopping the entire US Naval Fleet actually reminds me of Dr Evil Pyro.

[Pyrpolizer]

My dislike of Pootin applies as a result of these and other things.

There are many other things one would dislike Pootin for. He is a totalitarian dictator. There is no free press in Russia at all. In fact, journalists go missing should they be found to not tow the Kremlin's line.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_j ... _in_Russia

It's funny how concluded that Russia is a Totalitarian regime because of it's low record on free press without even caring to compare it with other countries.
The fact is that it's freedom of press is slightly better than that of Turkey's which is a NATO member, and even better/or about the same than major non-NATO allies of the United States.
Saudi Arabia ranks at the bottom yet the Americans nearly bow to the Saudis.... who in fact are one of their biggest allies
It looks cherry picking is a favorite sport for all US apologists.

https://rsf.org/en/ranking_table
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_non-NATO_ally

Slightly better than Turkey. Pyro, I have always said that Russia and Turkey are liked 2 peas in a pod. They have similar GDP, and a similar political class as it stands today.

It was never suppose to be like that in Russia's case. Russia, is not an Eastern Country like we in the West call it eastern as a Cold War remnant. It is Christian and a Western society. Slightly more conservative however than many Western Countries.

It should not be anywhere near Turkey, but it is.

I am happy to compare it with a number of Western Countries. Where would you want to live? Would you prefer to live with your family in the USA or Russia? Would you prefer to live in Cada or Russia? Would you prefer to live in the UK or Russia? Would you prefer to live in Australia or Russia? Would you prefer to live in New Zealand or Russia? Would you prefer to live in France or Russia? We is it better for you to raise your kids?

Milti, made the silly remark that I have hatred for Russia and Russians. That isn't the case. I got no issue with most Russians at all or Russia itself. I have a problem with Russia's political class right now and its Government. Just one aspect is the HDI of Russians living in Russia and the freedoms they enjoy within their society and the freedom of press. It is a sad situation for any country to kill its journalists, or to arrest them under bogus emergency laws as is the case in Turkey. In Russia, there are no laws like that so journos don't get arrested unless it is on trumped up charges of corruption etc. They just disappear.

But there are many reasons why Pootin isn't well liked. The freedom of press is just one issue.

Sure but you totally dismiss the fact that Russia is what's left from the ex-USSR which was in fact a brutal totalitarian regime.
The collapse of the USSR occurred in the early 90's and for the following 10 years the situation got worse .
Like I said earlier, Russia is on the rise on all "democratic" indicators in the last 20 years (from say 2000 to 2018).
The highest improvement was in fact during Putin's. Russia just needs time to evolve into what it deserves to be. It has fine, and well educated people.
I believe this country will surpass most EU countries in the next 20 years both financially and democratically.

Perhaps the nearest comparison one could make would be to look at Germany.
Just go there and witness yourself what happens in ex East Germany and how the ex-West Germany got affected by the re-unification
VW itself is the verge of getting bankrupt by the fact that they were employing almost exclusively cheap ex-eastern Germany managers and stuff who thought it's Ok to do what they were doing in their ex-communist system

[Pyrpolizer]

All this talk about the Russian Death Ray and stopping the entire US Naval Fleet actually reminds me of Dr Evil Pyro.

Yes but you are the one who brought this up, no one else
What RH and myself think happened with Donald Cook was some kind of electronic intervention, which is far off from your assumption of a Death Ray weapon.

[Robin Hood]

Or just maybe, you are a Russia Pootin apologist and believe in flying pigs and the Death Star Death Ray Lazer.

Of course, I didn't expect an answer from you.

So even proof of using a Micro Wave signal to immobilise a moving vehicle supplied by the US Dept. of Defence is not good enough for you to demonstrate that the technology is there and most likely the Russians have had it for some time. You have a very simple mind!

[Paphitis]

My dislike of Pootin applies as a result of these and other things.

There are many other things one would dislike Pootin for. He is a totalitarian dictator. There is no free press in Russia at all. In fact, journalists go missing should they be found to not tow the Kremlin's line.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_j ... _in_Russia

It's funny how concluded that Russia is a Totalitarian regime because of it's low record on free press without even caring to compare it with other countries.
The fact is that it's freedom of press is slightly better than that of Turkey's which is a NATO member, and even better/or about the same than major non-NATO allies of the United States.
Saudi Arabia ranks at the bottom yet the Americans nearly bow to the Saudis.... who in fact are one of their biggest allies
It looks cherry picking is a favorite sport for all US apologists.

https://rsf.org/en/ranking_table
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_non-NATO_ally

Slightly better than Turkey. Pyro, I have always said that Russia and Turkey are liked 2 peas in a pod. They have similar GDP, and a similar political class as it stands today.

It was never suppose to be like that in Russia's case. Russia, is not an Eastern Country like we in the West call it eastern as a Cold War remnant. It is Christian and a Western society. Slightly more conservative however than many Western Countries.

It should not be anywhere near Turkey, but it is.

I am happy to compare it with a number of Western Countries. Where would you want to live? Would you prefer to live with your family in the USA or Russia? Would you prefer to live in Cada or Russia? Would you prefer to live in the UK or Russia? Would you prefer to live in Australia or Russia? Would you prefer to live in New Zealand or Russia? Would you prefer to live in France or Russia? We is it better for you to raise your kids?

Milti, made the silly remark that I have hatred for Russia and Russians. That isn't the case. I got no issue with most Russians at all or Russia itself. I have a problem with Russia's political class right now and its Government. Just one aspect is the HDI of Russians living in Russia and the freedoms they enjoy within their society and the freedom of press. It is a sad situation for any country to kill its journalists, or to arrest them under bogus emergency laws as is the case in Turkey. In Russia, there are no laws like that so journos don't get arrested unless it is on trumped up charges of corruption etc. They just disappear.

But there are many reasons why Pootin isn't well liked. The freedom of press is just one issue.

Sure but you totally dismiss the fact that Russia is what's left from the ex-USSR which was in fact a brutal totalitarian regime.
The collapse of the USSR occurred in the early 90's and for the following 10 years the situation got worse .
Like I said earlier, Russia is on the rise on all "democratic" indicators in the last 20 years (from say 2000 to 2018).
The highest improvement was in fact during Putin's. Russia just needs time to evolve into what it deserves to be. It has fine, and well educated people.
I believe this country will surpass most EU countries in the next 20 years both financially and democratically.

Perhaps the nearest comparison one could make would be to look at Germany.
Just go there and witness yourself what happens in ex East Germany and how the ex-West Germany got affected by the re-unification
VW itself is the verge of getting bankrupt by the fact that they were employing almost exclusively cheap ex-eastern Germany managers and stuff who thought it's Ok to do what they were doing in their ex-communist system

Pyro,

Russia was headed in the right direction in the 90s. Everyone was very positive about Russia, and even in the early part of Pootin's era, the West was quite positive.

Russia now is not progressing on any democratic indicators. In fact, Russians will tell you that it is getting worse and Pootin (much like Erdogan), are becoming more and more totalitarian. Not just this, but Pootin is isolating Russia more and more from the rest of the world with enforced sanctions which are getting more and more strict and draconian. This is setting the Russian economy and people back quite a bit.

Russia, has a lot more to gain by cooperating with the West and even joining NATO. Every commentator will tell you that and Pootin knows it I am sure as well. I never accused him of being stupid. The only thing I can think of, is that Pootin doesn't really care about any of that, or the economy of Russia. he is more concerned with recreating the Russian Czarist Empire and reclaim his position as a World Power. Something which is difficult for them because Russia is only 150 million people.

I don't believe Russia will make some headway as a progressive democratic country anytime soon. Just because they were under a brutal regime under the USSR means very little. Greece was under the Ottoman Empire for 400 years as was Cyprus too, but both have made great progress after that.

I think Russia was the most free under Gorbachev. It has gone backwards since then. Gorbachev, even though he was the last USSR leader before the end of the Cold War was really a pussy cat compared to Pootin and probably a pretty all round good guy. No one can say this about Pootin.

[Paphitis]

All this talk about the Russian Death Ray and stopping the entire US Naval Fleet actually reminds me of Dr Evil Pyro.

Yes but you are the one who brought this up, no one else
What RH and myself think happened with Donald Cook was some kind of electronic intervention, which is far off from your assumption of a Death Ray weapon.

No I didn't bring it up at all.

It was Robin Hood that has talked about Russian ships carrying super dooper Death Rays that can destroy the entire NATO Naval Fleet and an entire US Battle Group.

And now he is claiming that the Russians have this super dooper ECM pod which is capable of disabling an AEGIS equiped USN Destroyer (Arleigh Burk) dead in the water which also means that they can do that to an entire US Battle Group.

This on top of all the claims that 71 out of 103 Cruise Missiles were somehow knocked out without even photographic or any evidence whatsoever.

That is why I am now quoting Dr Evil's Death Star "Laaaazer"!

Insert Dr Evil for Pootin for extra effect!

[miltiades]

My dislike of Pootin applies as a result of these and other things.

There are many other things one would dislike Pootin for. He is a totalitarian dictator. There is no free press in Russia at all. In fact, journalists go missing should they be found to not tow the Kremlin's line.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_j ... _in_Russia

It's funny how concluded that Russia is a Totalitarian regime because of it's low record on free press without even caring to compare it with other countries.
The fact is that it's freedom of press is slightly better than that of Turkey's which is a NATO member, and even better/or about the same than major non-NATO allies of the United States.
Saudi Arabia ranks at the bottom yet the Americans nearly bow to the Saudis.... who in fact are one of their biggest allies
It looks cherry picking is a favorite sport for all US apologists.

https://rsf.org/en/ranking_table
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_non-NATO_ally

Slightly better than Turkey. Pyro, I have always said that Russia and Turkey are liked 2 peas in a pod. They have similar GDP, and a similar political class as it stands today.

It was never suppose to be like that in Russia's case. Russia, is not an Eastern Country like we in the West call it eastern as a Cold War remnant. It is Christian and a Western society. Slightly more conservative however than many Western Countries.

It should not be anywhere near Turkey, but it is.

I am happy to compare it with a number of Western Countries. Where would you want to live? Would you prefer to live with your family in the USA or Russia? Would you prefer to live in Canada or Russia? Would you prefer to live in the UK or Russia? Would you prefer to live in Australia or Russia? Would you prefer to live in New Zealand or Russia? Would you prefer to live in France or Russia? Where is it better for you to raise your kids?

Milti, made the silly remark that I have hatred for Russia and Russians. That isn't the case. I got no issue with most Russians at all or Russia itself. I have a problem with Russia's political class right now and its Government. Just one aspect is the HDI of Russians living in Russia and the freedoms they enjoy within their society and the freedom of press. It is a sad situation for any country to kill its journalists, or to arrest them under bogus emergency laws as is the case in Turkey. In Russia, there are no laws like that so journos don't get arrested unless it is on trumped up charges of corruption etc. They just disappear.

Pyro, we are all very lucky to live in the countries we live in. let's actually spare a thought for people living in places like Russia or Turkey. Of course there are worse countries still, such as perhaps Saudi Arabia. Belarus is another one and Milti never mentioned anything about that whilst he was in Minsk. Belarus has one of the most vicious tyrants on the planet. Look it up.

But there are many reasons why Pootin isn't well liked. The freedom of press is just one issue.

Here you go again , all you know its what the press tell you. I have been to Belarus more than 50 times over the last 8 years.
The President might not be liked by all but the people are happily going about their daily lives. My old mate, Alexander Lukashenko is considered by the west as a dictator, i may agree with this but I did not in my numerous visits notice any thing other than gorgeous well dressed women, reputed to be the most gorgeous women on earth.Boy I love Belarus !!

[Paphitis]

My dislike of Pootin applies as a result of these and other things.

There are many other things one would dislike Pootin for. He is a totalitarian dictator. There is no free press in Russia at all. In fact, journalists go missing should they be found to not tow the Kremlin's line.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_j ... _in_Russia

It's funny how concluded that Russia is a Totalitarian regime because of it's low record on free press without even caring to compare it with other countries.
The fact is that it's freedom of press is slightly better than that of Turkey's which is a NATO member, and even better/or about the same than major non-NATO allies of the United States.
Saudi Arabia ranks at the bottom yet the Americans nearly bow to the Saudis.... who in fact are one of their biggest allies
It looks cherry picking is a favorite sport for all US apologists.

https://rsf.org/en/ranking_table
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_non-NATO_ally

Slightly better than Turkey. Pyro, I have always said that Russia and Turkey are liked 2 peas in a pod. They have similar GDP, and a similar political class as it stands today.

It was never suppose to be like that in Russia's case. Russia, is not an Eastern Country like we in the West call it eastern as a Cold War remnant. It is Christian and a Western society. Slightly more conservative however than many Western Countries.

It should not be anywhere near Turkey, but it is.

I am happy to compare it with a number of Western Countries. Where would you want to live? Would you prefer to live with your family in the USA or Russia? Would you prefer to live in Canada or Russia? Would you prefer to live in the UK or Russia? Would you prefer to live in Australia or Russia? Would you prefer to live in New Zealand or Russia? Would you prefer to live in France or Russia? Where is it better for you to raise your kids?

Milti, made the silly remark that I have hatred for Russia and Russians. That isn't the case. I got no issue with most Russians at all or Russia itself. I have a problem with Russia's political class right now and its Government. Just one aspect is the HDI of Russians living in Russia and the freedoms they enjoy within their society and the freedom of press. It is a sad situation for any country to kill its journalists, or to arrest them under bogus emergency laws as is the case in Turkey. In Russia, there are no laws like that so journos don't get arrested unless it is on trumped up charges of corruption etc. They just disappear.

Pyro, we are all very lucky to live in the countries we live in. let's actually spare a thought for people living in places like Russia or Turkey. Of course there are worse countries still, such as perhaps Saudi Arabia. Belarus is another one and Milti never mentioned anything about that whilst he was in Minsk. Belarus has one of the most vicious tyrants on the planet. Look it up.

But there are many reasons why Pootin isn't well liked. The freedom of press is just one issue.

Here you go again , all you know its what the press tell you. I have been to Belarus more than 50 times over the last 8 years.
The President might not be liked by all but the people are happily going about their daily lives. My old mate, Alexander Lukashenko is considered by the west as a dictator, i may agree with this but I did not in my numerous visits notice any thing other than gorgeous well dressed women, reputed to be the most gorgeous women on earth.Boy I love Belarus !!

All I know is what the press tell me hey?

Just because you are a stupid old fool, and don't do anything but scratch your friggin tiny balls, doesn't mean belarus isn't ruiled by a vicious tyrant. How immature are you.

I friggin dare you to open a blog like The Saker criticizing Lukashenko and then go back to Minsk and see what happens. Or for you to go there and make any negative remarks about Lukashenko who is the only fully blown dictator in Europe.

[miltiades]

You are, as you always have been wet behind the ears and full of shit. Thus far nothing that you predicted has remotely materialized, yet being the stupid little boy you always have been you believe that you hace always been right. Hey stupid, learn hiw Putin is spelt you fucking moron.