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[Get Real!]

To sum up this story…

Greece HAD a goldmine that was waiting to be discovered and exploited, but their blatant racism blinded them from capitalizing from it.

But maybe it’s just as well because this superstar is too good for the tiny closed-minded Greece… she should be in a place like the US where the competition is at her level and where she will be appreciated.

Good luck to you sweetheart… although I doubt you’ll need it.

[erolz66]

I have no complaints with other countries giving Cyprus maximum points. But your attempt to score some cheap point for supposedly supporting a song because it takes the name of Cyprus (regardless of personal taste) has a number of undertones which have been pointed out in the past.

Your contribution to the thread was to suggest that Greece gave 12 points to Cyprus not because they though the song warranted 12 points but because of their 'loyalty' to Cyprus and then used this claim, which itself is undermined by the fact that many other countries gave Cyprus high points as well, to lecture cap that he should 'understand who in this world truly stands by Cyprus'.

I have no interest in euro vision, no views on how good the songs. However as a Cypriot I am happy that Cyprus did well. It is just a fact that it came second. If you took away all the points Greece gave it, jury and televote, it would still have come second. If you take away all the points Greece gave it and all the points Albania gave it and all the points Sweden gave it (song writers predominately Swedish) then it STILL comes second. This in my opinion, for true Cypriots, should be the 'story' here. That you ignore distract and seek to diminish this reality seemingly as a means to lecture the likes of Cap on how much he should appreciate Greece says much about you in m view.

There is nothing wrong with having a love for Greece as a Greek Cypriot but when your love for Greece exceeds that of your love for Cyprus, such that you will ignore and try and diminish Cyprus' real and valid achievement merely in order to promote Greece, then that is a problem as far as I am concerned and it is a problem that is in my view at the core of the mentalities that have created and sustain the mess that Cyprus is in today. There is nothing wrong with loving your nephew but if you love your nephew more than your own son, such that when your son comes second in a competition all you have to say to your son is, well I did not think you were that good really myself but do take note that your nephew voted for you even so, so never forget that it is your nephew that 'stands by' you, then that in my mind is a problem and likely to be a mentality that does much damage to your son.

[miltiades]

I fully endorse your comments Erolz.

[repulsewarrior]

And who did Israelis vote for? While the jury of experts gave its 12 points to Austria, the voters in the country picked Czech Republic as their first choice, followed by Moldova.

https://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Cultu ... win-556289

[Cap]

Greece HAD a goldmine that was waiting to be discovered and exploited, but their blatant racism blinded them from capitalizing from it.

Yes, that's usually the case.
Albanians don't go down well with Greeks.
Neither do Cypriots.

[Paphitis]

Greece HAD a goldmine that was waiting to be discovered and exploited, but their blatant racism blinded them from capitalizing from it.

Yes, that's usually the case.
Albanians don't go down well with Greeks.
Neither do Cypriots.

Yeh Albanians don’t go down well in Greece. They are associated with crime, and cheap labour so they don’t go down too well in Greece. That is true.

But Cypriots not going down too well in Greece is totally nonsense! Where did you get that from? Cypriots do just fine in Greece with hardly any differentiation from Greeks.

[DT.]

Greece HAD a goldmine that was waiting to be discovered and exploited, but their blatant racism blinded them from capitalizing from it.

Yes, that's usually the case.
Albanians don't go down well with Greeks.
Neither do Cypriots.

Yeh Albanians don’t go down well in Greece. They are associated with crime, and cheap labour so they don’t go down too well in Greece. That is true.

But Cypriots not going down too well in Greece is totally nonsense! Where did you get that from? Cypriots do just fine in Greece with hardly any differentiation from Greeks.

True...they can’t hate us...we brought so much of their NPL’s we friggin own their ass now.

[GreekIslandGirl]

Your contribution to the thread was to suggest that Greece gave 12 points to Cyprus not because they though the song warranted 12 points but because of their 'loyalty' to Cyprus and then used this claim, which itself is undermined by the fact that many other countries gave Cyprus high points as well,

Greece sent a ballad in Greek. There is a logical and aesthetic reason why they did that.

If you understood Greek culture (which you don't), you would understand why Greece would not give such a song 12 points (except for its Cypriot association) and why some other countries (not many) gave Cyprus 12 points - but for other/their own reasons.

European countries are very much individuals (for good or bad; bad in the case of winning against the united Israeli entries). Greece gave this entry 12 points, this time, because it would help Cyprus. Because it represents Cyprus. You don't like that reason. The fact we can rise above personal choice when faced with patriotism.

It's no wonder, to me, that you couldn't wait to try and diminish our bond with Greece by pretending you love this song so much and Greece voted because they, like you, love this song so much.

Get this straight, loving this song does not equate to loving Cyprus (but you'd use any trick). Seeing this song as brash does not diminish the beauty and power of Cyprus.

[GreekIslandGirl]

Greece HAD a goldmine that was waiting to be discovered and exploited, but their blatant racism blinded them from capitalizing from it.

Yes, that's usually the case.
Albanians don't go down well with Greeks.
Neither do Cypriots.

Again, proving you haven't a clue about Greece's support of Cyprus.

[GreekIslandGirl]

I fully endorse your comments Erolz.

Sycophant.